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4 hours ago, Ruthless4u said:

Game with a ton of negative reviews, can hardly  maintain a population of 600-700 players at peak hours with lord knows how many of those as Alts, desperately making sweeping changes in patches with little clear direction. 

I'm sure there was no intention to allow players to keep their rank and crafting XP from the beginning, but when you can barely keep the players you have interested enough to stay on board you need a carrot to keep the ass( as in donkey/mule) lurching forward. The false promise of keeping rank/crafting XP was it. There was intent to deceive from the beginning, if they were brand new devs maybe I could belive they would make such a mistake. These guys knew better and exactly what they were doing.

I know I will get banned for this, just like being a mod you have to go along with whatever admin says on the subject. But don't assume everyone does not see through the BS.

Ruthless is jumping from Thread to Thread and is shit-talking everything in the game and the Devs. We shoud be happy to get rid of people like him.

i doubt he is even Playing the game at all. not to mention giving any kind of Feedback about the game or the Patches. Its just waht he does.

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On 2/26/2019 at 4:13 PM, John Sheppard said:

You should know that a lot of the old players are pissed off more than you can possibly imagine and if it comes to it they-we are even prepared to retaliate on purpose

I mean farm the new players extensively to force them to quit and give negative reviews

This is fool hardy and is not in good taste... please guard yourselves and don't leave this moment due to your emotional distress.

I don't think we are losing our xp, I haven't seen that, but what do I know... I am just another player.

Three cheers to the frigates and their gallant Captains.

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20 minutes ago, LIONOFWALES said:

This is fool hardy and is not in good taste... please guard yourselves and don't leave this moment due to your emotional distress.

I don't think we are losing our xp, I haven't seen that, but what do I know... I am just another player.

Three cheers to the frigates and their gallant Captains.

Oh we will. Admin have allready said it. 

On the the notice on sealclubbing. This is a wargame. So kill what you can also new guys. They either make it ore break.

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5 hours ago, Routan said:

Oh we will. Admin have allready said it. 

On the the notice on sealclubbing. This is a wargame. So kill what you can also new guys. They either make it ore break.

good Motto to ruin the game!

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On 2/26/2019 at 3:38 PM, admin said:

are sail able gifts. If you can sail them they are safe for quite a while. 
First wipe will only touch economy - just like the main posts says

Yep... I think they will go then... but many things are becoming craftable in game so... no sweat aye? :)

I just hope that all that is good shall remain, and all the bad will be done away with, as vague as that is... maybe some of you know what I am saying.

 

 

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I kind of want to set up my crafting base again, grind some reals, and pump out ships for more pew pew - but knowing it will be re wiped in a month or two I dont really feel like putting in the time twice. So I'm stuck with my leftover ships I guess.

Is there any kind of ETA of the big wipe? Or is it advised to not care about the wipe for now as its still many months out, and thus rebuild crafting til then?

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4 minutes ago, Liq said:

I kind of want to set up my crafting base again, grind some reals, and pump out ships for more pew pew - but knowing it will be re wiped in a month or two I dont really feel like putting in the time twice. So I'm stuck with my leftover ships I guess.

Is there any kind of ETA of the big wipe? Or is it advised to not care about the wipe for now as its still many months out, and thus rebuild crafting til then?

I am just assuming that every patch we have now will be a wipe.

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24 minutes ago, Teutonic said:

I am just assuming that every patch we have now will be a wipe.

gah... hope that stage doesn't take too long then, else people will run out of ships soon

I'd appreciate a little more intel / communication from devs side on this topic

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16 hours ago, Liq said:

I kind of want to set up my crafting base again, grind some reals, and pump out ships for more pew pew - but knowing it will be re wiped in a month or two I dont really feel like putting in the time twice. So I'm stuck with my leftover ships I guess.

Its ok mate... players like me will rebuild infrastructure and create things to buy for you... will take some time , but hey, the development is my favorite part, I didn't reach maximum rank until relatively recently... I don't grind, no need for it. I just play to my capacity and that's it. That is it took me around 1000 hours to get to full rank. Not because I am an idiot mind you, I just don't care about ranks.

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15 hours ago, Liq said:

I'd appreciate a little more intel / communication from devs side on this topic

Yes, yes please for the planners, we love information @Devs.

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On 3/16/2019 at 12:29 AM, Routan said:

Oh we will. Admin have allready said it. 

I see where your getting it now... must have missed that somehow... I will need to change my little slogan to...

Three cheers for the Cutters and their gallant Captains.

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30 minutes ago, LIONOFWALES said:

I see where your getting it now... must have missed that somehow... I will need to change my little slogan to...

Three cheers for the Cutters and their gallant Captains.

Well unless @admindont change  the xp for exame, witch not is clear yeth. Dont think we see many BC.

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i would like to see more clan member titles  like diplomat   battle commander  trreasurer     economic advisor  and so on and so on

 

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yes, @admin please let us know if the ship knowledge XP and the books will also get wiped or not and what is the eta for the release/big wipe.

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How can you kick your community's nuts so hard?
It is absolutely unnecessary to wipe progress if there are still people who can play and enjoy this game afterall.

One cannot simply say" 'Cause we want fairness to new players". These players will uninstall anyways if they dont like the game and so will the others when permanently wiping progress such as XP. Also it is a simple and proper way for new players to get carried by more experienced ones.

As usually well done Russian/Ukrainian developers.

Cheers.

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3 minutes ago, Jan van den Bosch said:

Russian/Ukrainian

That's an interesting Ratio.

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Don’t you just feel the love there. I guess some people just do not understand, that the game is in early access. Things were going to change. Not always for the best. But that is why we are testing the game. Players forget that is what we signed up for. I understand where they are coming from, but do not agree with threats or forum trolling. Keep your spirits up devs and produce a game that we all will love.

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27 minutes ago, Jan van den Bosch said:

How can you kick your community's nuts so hard?
It is absolutely unnecessary to wipe progress if there are still people who can play and enjoy this game afterall.

One cannot simply say" 'Cause we want fairness to new players". These players will uninstall anyways if they dont like the game and so will the others when permanently wiping progress such as XP. Also it is a simple and proper way for new players to get carried by more experienced ones.

As usually well done Russian/Ukrainian developers.

Cheers.

i sense racism 🙂

The Wipe is the right way to go! (But they never shoud have said we can keep the XP in the first Place!)

Guess i'm a Wipeteer

 

 

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This again ? really ?

He has already given the information, he promised rank xp to remain, than told mistake, so it will be wiped. Book knowledge will stay, if he changes his mind, it will also be wiped. This is EA, so no need to discuss, he is determined most of the time, it will change nothing.

After release veterans will be sailing in Le Requin and Hercules in just first few hours, you will see combat news flooding with "captain reversable passed the final exam" "moscal in pink passed the final exam" etc. So clean start is unrealistic, it will not happen. In few hours veterans will be farming noobs at USA / British / Pirate / Spanish capitals with LRQ and Herc and in few days day will be in Bellonas and keep going...

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47 minutes ago, Aerospace said:

This again ? really ?

He has already given the information, he promised rank xp to remain, than told mistake, so it will be wiped. Book knowledge will stay, if he changes his mind, it will also be wiped. This is EA, so no need to discuss, he is determined most of the time, it will change nothing.

After release veterans will be sailing in Le Requin and Hercules in just first few hours, you will see combat news flooding with "captain reversable passed the final exam" "moscal in pink passed the final exam" etc. So clean start is unrealistic, it will not happen. In few hours veterans will be farming noobs at USA / British / Pirate / Spanish capitals with LRQ and Herc and in few days day will be in Bellonas and keep going...

See your missing something here.....we will also be farming you with the Pandora too.  Just wanted to make sure you correct that.  Honestly though it will be a week and folks will be in 4th rates and some maybe SOL's.  I think back when we had the last wipe we had guys grinding out in a weekend almost all the ranks to rank back up cause they didn't log in and make sure to keep there stuff up to date or only had played on one server and not the other.

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3 hours ago, Justme said:

Everything should be wiped, I see no reason to keep the books.

That you dont have the books doesnt mean everyone else shouldnt have them too :D

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1 minute ago, o7Captain said:

That you dont have the books doesnt mean everyone else shouldnt have them too :D

The question is why do you need to keep the books through the wipe, why do they get special treatment, is it because the grind for good books is a long and boring one? If so then that's a great argument for why they should be wiped and a new method tested, like officers.

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3 hours ago, Slim McSauce said:

The question is why do you need to keep the books through the wipe, why do they get special treatment, is it because the grind for good books is a long and boring one? If so then that's a great argument for why they should be wiped and a new method tested, like officers.

I loved the Officer Patch. But we needed officers for more areas, not just combat officers that weirdly equated to our first person character. We need a Shipwright Officer to train and level up to negate crafting RNG a certain percent each level. We still need Combat Officers to pilot our fleet ships. Etc, etc. And all of these books should be applied to these officers, not to the knowledge slots. Then we choose which officers to bring on the ship...placed in the knowledge slots. So, each ship would have the same 5 Knowledge Slots, but each one is reserved for particular officer positions...say a Boatswain with whatever accrued Boatswain Knowledge Books, a Carpenter with whatever accrued Carpenter Knowledge Books, a Marine Officer with whatever accrued Boarding Knowledge Slots. Basically, each ship would have 5 specific Officer Slots. Each Officer would have as many Knowledge Slots as there are books for that particular role. We place the Officer on the ship in the specified Officer Slot. And then, so we don't have to move them around all the time, we would have the option to auto move officers, or we could have multiple officers of the same type for each rate....who knows....but I liked the Officer Patch, but it needed work.

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Potentially every single book applied to every ship? I don't think that is a good idea. The book/ship knowledge system works well as it lets you theory craft ship fits for specific roles. Specialisation and playing to strengths and weaknesses. There is no time for messing about with this again. The game needs to be released, it works as it is.

I couldn't care less about rank xp. Many of us have probably clocked top rank many times over already. Same for crafting. 

Having to re-grind ship knowledge slots is fine by me too as it is the same for everybody and everyone has to do it. Players with alts would have to re-grind for ALL the alts which is as it should be.

Finding and learning books however is different I think. It is either a just an RNG dice roll requiring endless PvE (that a player might not enjoy) or pure economic power. Wiping it will mean that the mega clans and multiple alt players will just get all the good books first with buy orders across nation capitals (ripping off noobs who don't know value) and using monster amounts of reals from multiple alt trading routes. Art of Cargo etc will be an RNG windfall suddenly making a new player very rich (assuming they realise). Whereas solo players and small clans will have to grind endless PvE in the hope lady luck eventually serves them up. Their won't be a level playing field then until after a few months when everyone active has found everything again, putting everyone through months of (dis)advantage over others, only to eventually reach exactly the same point a few months down the line? That seems pointless to me. Used (read) books may as well be kept.

Final Exam should be a bar not a skip imo. It should be necessary to pass it before you are able to attain a certain rank, not a short cut to getting it.

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