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1 minute ago, PG Monkey said:

I read that as if you take away our xp etc we will attempt to sabotage the game by farming new players and writing negative reviews...and that's not a threat?

Well.. call it as you wish this is what lots of people are talking about right now..

Admin said he will wipe our XP is this a threat? no he's just saying what's gonna hapen and i just said what people are talking about .. they are also not threatning.. if they were they would come on the forum and say "If you do this we will do that" no .. they're also stating what they are going to do .. if someone destroyes what they enjoy they will make sure they destroy it completely for the person who did this to them 

It seems fair and if you have basic understanding of human nature you should expect something like this

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1 minute ago, Draymoor said:

That doesn't make them toxic, nor does it look like they want to leave does it. They are being given good reason to be outraged. Silly to blame people that have been lied to. Devs should have known this would not be taken well and be prepared to deal with it seriously instead of expecting 'undertanding' after lying for months on end or being nice.. simply giving false or unconfirmed information as if it was fact. 

Sure I am not justifying their actions... but ruining other peoples gameplay over it... the neewbies are the last ones who you can blame for some miscommunication?

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Just now, John Sheppard said:

Well.. call it as you wish this is what lots of people are talking about right now..

Admin said he will wipe our XP is this a threat? no he's just saying what's gonna hapen and i just said what people are talking about .. they are also not threatning.. if they were they would come on the forum and say "If you do this we will do that" no .. they're also stating what they are going to do .. if someone destroyes what they enjoy they will make sure they destroy it completely for the person who did this to them 

It seems fair and if you have basic understanding of human nature you should expect something like this

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Gentlemen, the admiralty has tendered unto us its orders. I see there are those among us who are thinking of resigning their commissions based on this unfortunate turn of events. It is of course their right to do so, with the honor of their service fully acknowledged. I however I must state for the record, that I am invigorated by this turn of events.

The idea that I should be sent to a Mediterranean devoid of others footprints. That I may take part in remapping a new world, fills me with hope and excitement. Sure I will arrive naked on its shores, but I shall also arrive versed in its ways. Privy to its dangers and mindful of its secrets. Not some swabby who can't aim a cannon or scamper up a shroud. No...no this is an opportunity to be twice the seamen I was. To place my mark upon this island chains shifting waters. I see this not as punishment, but reward. It is time for the cadets to depart the academy for their final berths. Fair winds to all.

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46 minutes ago, Banished Privateer said:

If the first impression and cutters are so important, unlock the ranks for all the testers on release in time. After a week give us post captain ranks, after 2 weeks flag captain, after 3 weeks commodores and after month rear admirals... Same result and these that hate re-doing the grind can simply wait and come back later.  

Best idea yet, hope it doesn't get lost in all the complaints.

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1 minute ago, Henry Durnin said:

Sure I am not justifying their actions... but ruining other peoples gameplay over it... the neewbies are the last ones who you can blame for some miscommunication?

Well admins are ruining it for the vet players are they not? those players are only taking the avenue that is available to them. After all admins are giving priority to these new players over the vet playerbase. So it's admin choice to favor new players that is creating the issue imo.

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lol, this hysteria is incredible.  Its a fun game.  Ranking up is easy.  Threatening to farm new players?  seriously?  New players get farmed anyway.  

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3 minutes ago, Olaf Greyshoulders said:

Playing video games not because you enjoy them, but spitefully, in an attempt to drive other players away sounds like about the most petulant thing I can think of.  This is more 'Temper Tantrum' than hostage situation.  This isn't the right venue for emotional outbursts.  Considered disagreement is much more influential than angry trolling. 

Reflect on this.  This isn't healthy behavior for an functioning adult.  You need to find a better use of your time.  

Sure everyone likes to play the game and enjoy it but what happenes when you really enjoy it and someone comes and smashes it to pieces with a sledgehammer? some people have become very attached to this game .. made sacrifices for it.. right or wrong and now someone will destoy it .. how do you think they will react?

Listen i'm not the bad guy here .. would you rather prefer i didn't say anything and it would happen anyways? coz like i said people ARE talking about this and i don't want to point fingers 

I'm just letting everyone know that it will come to this

Like i said it's basic human nature if you destroy someone's loved object he will come after you .. we don't live in fairy tales 

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1 minute ago, PG Monkey said:

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btw, where did all the "rover testers" disappear? I don't see them playing NA, I don't see them on testbed, I see them only on the forums. You guys often disappear and wait just for the wipes. You will come after a wipe for a short time and disappear to play other games again. Ah, I forgot to mention you will complain about meta-cool-kidz-gamers who ruin the game for ya. 

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Why wipe anything if you're going to retain your books, the one thing that makes the game unbalanced especially in PvP terms.

Also the lack of notification prior to a wipe was a bad idea, 7 days? then a wipe each month this could go really bad...

 

I always expected a wipe for release to be honest, but a partial wipe just seems pretty pointless, also might want to make DLC ships redeemable once a week/month instead, or they may req the new player experience. 🤣

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1 minute ago, Banished Privateer said:

btw, where did all the "rover testers" disappear? I don't see them playing NA, I don't see them on testbed, I see them only on the forums. You guys often disappear and wait just for the wipes. You will come after a wipe for a short time and disappear to play other games again. Ah, I forgot to mention you will complain about meta-cool-kidz-gamers who ruin the game for ya. 

Heth is GB..the rest USA ;) PG MOnkey is retired (for now) name changed

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43 minutes ago, admin said:

There is no lie here, wake up.
We wanted to keep XP (upfront), then we spend time and saw where it will lead you we changed that decision (also telling you upfront). Both decisions were true. 

But if new players buy a new shiny game they dont want to see first rates commandeered by vets against them. I know you understand this

After 1 week/ 1month/2 months... new purchasers-players will see players sailing in bigger ships. And then what? another XP wipe?

Your statement have no sense.

 

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Admins didn't lie about xp.  They didn't mislead us.  They simply re-evaluated the issue and made a decision.  After the wipe, the game will still be fun.   I will race Banished to Post Captain (and probably lose)

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Just now, Angus MacDuff said:

Admins didn't lie about xp.  They didn't mislead us.  They simply re-evaluated the issue and made a decision.  After the wipe, the game will still be fun.   I will race Banished to Post Captain (and probably lose)

Wrong.  

 

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3 minutes ago, Wraith said:

Wrong.  

 

 

4 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said:

Admins didn't lie about xp.  They didn't mislead us.  They simply re-evaluated the issue and made a decision.  After the wipe, the game will still be fun.   I will race Banished to Post Captain (and probably lose)

 

Its amazing you can defend this @Angus MacDuff.

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I just want to make sure I have this right. By the final wipe...

Sailing XP              gone

Crafting XP           gone

All moneys            gone

All items                gone  

All ships                gone          (except DLC)

Ship knowledge   gone

Book knowledge  remains

Is that right? 

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Just now, Cockeyed Callaway said:

I just want to make sure I have this right. By the final wipe...

Sailing XP              gone

Crafting XP           gone

All moneys            gone

All items                gone  

All ships                gone          (except DLC)

Ship knowledge   gone

Book knowledge  remains

Is that right? 

Pandora

 

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7 minutes ago, Banished Privateer said:

btw, where did all the "rover testers" disappear? I don't see them playing NA, I don't see them on testbed, I see them only on the forums. You guys often disappear and wait just for the wipes. You will come after a wipe for a short time and disappear to play other games again. Ah, I forgot to mention you will complain about meta-cool-kidz-gamers who ruin the game for ya. 

Just because you don't see us it doesn't mean that we have disappeared. We enjoy the game and provide feedback in our way.

The "ROVER did this and that" mania is really getting out of hand. Please stop :)

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This reminds me of when GE announced they would drop their dividend. I lost a lot of money that day and still recovering.

ANYWAY.

Truthfully I'm hurt....but I understand the wipe...

I hope folks stay so we can continue having a pre-release group to engage in activities with. I also hope the release garner's attention once more. I'm cautious here though. I need to really see how this patch is going to play out.

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Just now, Angus MacDuff said:

Bunch of children.  A grownup should calm them down

FIY one of those people i know is over 50 .. about the rest i can't vouch but i would guess in 25-50 range from previous conversations

Maybe you are living in a fairy tale world where there is no violence and people are always calm and obedient?

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Just now, John Sheppard said:

FIY one of those people i know is over 50 .. about the rest i can't vouch but i would guess in 25-50 range from previous conversations

Maybe you are living in a fairy tale world where there is no violence and people are always calm and obedient?

Yes.  Spent my life in the military.  We don't allow tantrums, lol

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1 minute ago, John Sheppard said:

FIY one of those people i know is over 50 .. about the rest i can't vouch but i would guess in 25-50 range from previous conversations

Maybe you are living in a fairy tale world where there is no violence and people are always calm and obedient?

I'm 60 years old and have 13 grandchildren...I know a tantrum when I see one

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36 minutes ago, John Sheppard said:

@admin

 

We are disscussing this on TS and Discord now 

You should know that a lot of the old players are pissed off more than you can possibly imagine and if it comes to it they-we are even prepared to retaliate on purpose

I mean farm the new players extensively to force them to quit and give negative reviews .. just letting you know how bad this can turn out.. i don't think it would be in the best interest of the game

EDIT: just to make sure ... this is not my suggestion 

Oh noooo they gonna what? camp new players... hey.. nothing new.. i am used to enemy fleets waiting in front of capital just waiting for a trader brig or a solo player old or new just to be jumped and sank... never seen anyone let me go for being anew player.. o noooo.. sink everything was always the way. so let them cry on discord how they gonna do this or that.. thing is they are already doing it!

WIPE IT ADMIN :)

CLEAN!

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Just now, Angus MacDuff said:

Yes.  Spent my life in the military.  We don't allow tantrums, lol

Oh well.. like it or not this is NOT the military and people have Free Will and they WILL fight for what they love .. If you think they'll just bend over you are looking at the wrong race mate .. or universe?

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1 minute ago, Angus MacDuff said:

Yes.  Spent my life in the military.  We don't allow tantrums, lol

This isn't the military though is it? People paid for this and put their time on it. Personally I prefer to not allow being lied to and mislead, seems worse to me. 

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