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Everyone's complaining about the wrong stuff, it was maybe implied that we'd be keeping our XP, but honestly if I had to choose between keeping learned books or XP, I would choose to keep my books. You don't even have to be max rank to fully crew a 1st rate anymore. One month after release and everyone will have line ships again.

What we should be concerned about is the game not feeling like it's anywhere close to being ready for released. Maybe this will change with the next updates, I hope it will. However, I have not seen any indication that the necessary changes will be made.

My main concern is there are still R zones, rear admirals still hang out in the R zones, pvpers will still camp the R zones, and new players will be sunk around the R zones and quit the game. A couple months after release, we'll probably be back to the same 500 people who play now. Again, I hope this changes, but I have seen no indication that it will. There needs to be something, some area or part of the map that draws people away from the R zones, call it a pvp zone for lack of better name but it needs to be more enticing than the current pvp zone.

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HMS Pandora is the reimbursement. Its an amazing DLC that will be given for free to all accounts, and then will be maid paid and very expensive.

And lets get things straight. We did want to keep xp and crafting xp safe until we did not. We first wanted to give veterans and advantage against new players, but now we dont. we cant, keeping that promise is bad for the game, because all players must be equal on launch.

Could you clarify @admin, will the the HMS Pandora be given as a one time redeemable? Or will it function like the current Hercules and La Requin DLCs?

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1 hour ago, John Sheppard said:

 

What happenes to the NEW players that join after 1 month or later? Why would they be any different and why it's fair for those players to see everyone else max rank in big ships killing them all the time? What's the difference between those players and the ones just after the release?

First of all calm down. This is a developer announcement and toxic language and forum rule breaking is looked upon more negatively here.

Second.
What happens to the new players after 1 month depends on what happens to new players on day 1. Happy players on day 1 = more players for longer.
Veterans should not have better ships and crafting ranks on day 1. Giving veterans advantage over new players at launch was a bad idea. 
 

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So lets get this ball rolling shall I When there Econ is reset all of our  money will be gone how to do you expect clans that have ports that they pay for them. To be able to get the money to pay for the said ports if the Econ is going to be in a disaster after the wipe happens you wont have many happy people if all of there clans money is gone and then they lose all of there ports they worked hard for are gone

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3 minutes ago, Vladimir Drago said:

Could you clarify @admin, will the the HMS Pandora be given as a one time redeemable? Or will it function like the current Hercules and La Requin DLCs?

Pandora will be a DLC like Hercules - usable every 24h. We will post more information shortly. Valve has kindly agreed to add it to all Early access accounts (thank you Gabe) and then add to store on launch

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1 minute ago, admin said:

Pandora will be a DLC like Hercules - usable every 24h. We will post more information shortly. Valve has kindly agreed to add it to all Early access accounts (thank you Gabe) and then add to store on launch

What will be the fate of St. Cecilia? Onetime gift for testing to be wiped at some point, or will she remain available in some way?

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5 hours ago, Draymoor said:

Some people I think are missing the point. Full wipe isn't the issue, but the fact that it was guaranteed to not happen. If they said full wipe from the start, there would be no outrage or least they could've said they didn't know or could NOT guarantee it. I mean if you buy ANY product, imagine the manufacturer going back on the guarantee after they sold it to you?

Most guarantees are shorter than 3 years. This promise was made in 2015, we expected to release in the end of 2016. Sorry but promising veterans advantage on launch so close to release seems like a very bad idea.

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6 minutes ago, admin said:

Most guarantees are shorter than 3 years. This promise was made in 2015, we expected to release in the end of 2016. Sorry but promising veterans advantage on launch so close to release seems like a very bad idea.

That not the problem, you already guaranteed it. You made a mistake announcing wrong information which wasn't in 2015. It was LAST YEAR. People were asking months ago and you confirmed it was guaranteed. You could start by admitting you made an error and compensate players' time you wasted. 

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6 hours ago, admin said:

There is no information on the final release wipe yet. But when this decision will be made based on what is going to make the game better on release. What is certain is that books and skill books will remain safe + pandora will be provided as free DLC for all early access testers.

Are you really asking us to grind every single ship xp, every single rank xp and every single craft xp all over again??!

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1 minute ago, Lars Kjaer said:

Are you really asking us to grind every single ship xp, every single rank xp and every single craft xp all over again??!

No. Just Rank xp. Ship xp is safe. Not sure about crafting though. I got your back bro.

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17 minutes ago, admin said:

Pandora will be a DLC like Hercules - usable every 24h. We will post more information shortly. Valve has kindly agreed to add it to all Early access accounts (thank you Gabe) and then add to store on launch

thank for the clarification! looking forward to it 😃

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22 minutes ago, admin said:

First of all calm down. This is a developer announcement and toxic language and forum rule breaking is looked upon more negatively here.

Second.
What happens to the new players after 1 month depends on what happens to new players on day 1. Happy players on day 1 = more players for longer.
Veterans should not have better ships and crafting ranks on day 1. Giving veterans advantage over new players at launch was a bad idea. 
 

 

5 minutes ago, Velhelm Von Marrius said:

No. Just Rank xp. Ship xp is safe. Not sure about crafting though. I got your back bro.

To me it reads as everything will be wiped. I foresee a server pop of less than 300 in primetime after the patch..

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1 minute ago, Lars Kjaer said:

Do you believe that grinding endlessly is what NA is about?

I was making a joke. I said a few posts back that the devs should add something to draw players out of the R zones. (which would be content)

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2 hours ago, Powderhorn said:

Everyone keeps saying that admin lied.  English is not everyone's first language on here, but, let me clear something up real quick:

Emphasis added.

There was no lie.  There was no intent to deceive.  You cannot lie about there not being an XP wipe if you did not know about it yourself.  There was a reevaluation, and some people will be upset about that.  However, now that I've cleared that up, any post going forward accusing admin of lying about the wipe will be dismissed out of hand.  Talk about why it frustrates you.  Talk about what you think the impact of the decision will be.  However, accusing him of lying is simply false and non-productive.

Would you mind explaining why you believe that grinding xp, craft xp, and ship knowledge all over again will be content?

Are there MAJOR changes to the way xp is achieved?

Are there MAJOR changes to the crafting system?

Are there MAJOR changes to the way shipknowledge is achieved?

If the answer to any of the above is no, then I say this news will not frustrates anyone. It will just kill off what remains of the game, no one can look at the server pop and not think "this will not be going for long", and this won't increase server pop one bit. Thinking that new players will experience a different game simply by "levelling" the playingfield from the start is downright naive. Vets didn't become vets by unlocking the ships, they became vets by their experiences in game. Newbs will still be slaughtered at the capitals.

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Yea Yea… You was supposed to go live 2015. And was THEN to be one to two resets.  Now its 2019, and we suffered many resets.  Hopefully, you fixed the AIs sailing through solid land, not just stupid graphics on fish

 

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28 minutes ago, Velhelm Von Marrius said:

No. Just Rank xp. Ship xp is safe. Not sure about crafting though. I got your back bro.

"Rank xp, crafting xp is safe and guaranteed" - Admin

You should probably rethink that statement.  To be honest with a track record like this where a company makes a guarantee and then within a few short months does not follow through with that guarantee you cannot say with any certainty whatsoever that anything is "safe."   

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Just now, JDAM said:

Never believed that in the first place. Spam it all you want. 

1 minute ago, JDAM said:

You should probably rethink that statement.  To be honest with a track record like this where a company makes a guarantee and then within a few short months does not follow through with that guarantee you cannot say with any certainty whatsoever that anything is "safe."   

I wont. I am going off of information stated here. If they change it they change it. I wont complain. I knew what I was getting into with early access. The winds change over time and you must adjust accordingly. 

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3 minutes ago, Ganking Simulator said:

I would hope that everything gets wiped, including books and knowledge for more fairness. But looking at the outrage here the chances for that are probably small :lol:

What would a full wipe accomplish? Vets will get everything in a matter of days, there's no change in that. The game is skill based, books, xp, crafting xp, trading routes. The vets will get everything in a matter of weeks and ppl that don't spend 1000+ hours in the game won't be on a level playing field anyway.

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1 minute ago, JDAM said:

"Rank xp, crafting xp is safe and guaranteed" - Admin

You should probably rethink that statement.  To be honest with a track record like this where a company makes a guarantee and then within a few short months does not follow through with that guarantee you cannot say with any certainty whatsoever that anything is "safe."   

if you expected the worst you would not be upset. It is also in that post. 
There was no "few short months" - you are making up things.
This promise was made in 2015. And repeated because we believed it was true and good.
But based on what we know on how valve promotes and features games on steam - it wont be good any more.
Now we think that giving veterans advantage over new players on launch is a horrible idea . 

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Just now, Velhelm Von Marrius said:

Never believed that in the first place. Spam it all you want. 

I wont. I am going off of information stated here. If they change it they change it. I wont complain. I knew what I was getting into with early access. The winds change over time and you must adjust accordingly. 

True but putting out a statement and then back peddling is absolutely ridiculous from the standpoint of a professional developer. Just admit you made a mistake and be done with it. At least then we could at least respect you for principles.

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1 minute ago, Lars Kjaer said:

What would a full wipe accomplish? Vets will get everything in a matter of days, there's no change in that. The game is skill based, books, xp, crafting xp, trading routes. The vets will get everything in a matter of weeks and ppl that don't spend 1000+ hours in the game won't be on a level playing field anyway.

its a matter of principle. Fresh new game fresh new water starting at clean slate or a used evening swimming pool with first rate spam and screenings.
 

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6 minutes ago, admin said:

Now we think that giving veterans advantage over new players on launch is a horrible idea . 

Well, if you want equality you will have to wipe our brains too because that is where our XP is stored.

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