Lancelot Teggin Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) The xp is fine with the patch they should buff a bit the reals reward on my opinion Edited May 30, 2019 by Lancelot Teggin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Farseer Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Hawkwood said: On 5/29/2019 at 3:09 PM, Tom Farseer said: Good grief... for someone who has maybe seen the inside of half a dozen PBs you sure are opinionated about them.... Let me paint a clearer picture for you: Before the BR limit increase you could freely interchange 3rd rates, Bellonas, Christians and Bucentaurs to suit your needs and the player numbers you had at your disposal. That was because their BR differences nowadays actually make sense with regard to their effectiveness in battle. For example you could say let's change one Buc to a christian to get in one more Herc for flexibility. Or exchange five Bellonas (2kBR) for two Bucs and Christian (=2k BR) because we don't have enough people to fill the spots. You could choose between lighter fleets with higher numbers and overall more tactical flexibility or take heavy setups and brawl it out. When every PB Fleet has to be 25 Oceans that is impossible. Before the BR increase a small elite clan could defend a port with 7 or 8 good payers. With 25 Ocean monofleets that is gone. Either go zerg or go home. I see you writing only about defending, and it perfectly suits your theory. You should maybe consider that, because you were in probably 5000 port battles. My theory, as you call it, is in fact not theory but knowledge gathered in practise. How much pratise is really hard to estimate, to be honest but I'd say somewhere between 70 and 100 PBs may be realistic. But let me adapt my abovementioned statements. Everything stated above behind this numeral goes for attackers as well as defenders. Before the BR increase a small elite clan could attack or defend a port with 7 or 8 good payers. With 25 Ocean monofleets that is gone. Either go zerg or go home. There.. happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 17 hours ago, Teutonic said: The Congreve cannons are, in almost all situations, "slightly worse mediums." the lower reload and the lower damage pretty much just equate to nearly the same damage per second as normal mediums. What is supposed to be the "perk" of Congreve type? lower reload means lower time to reload 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, admin said: lower reload means lower time to reload I completely understand that. I just look at the lower damage as well and in the end the congreve's have almost the same damage per second as normal mediums. only their accuracy is "better" when you put them side by side. 9pd congreves to 9pd mediums for example: Medium - 65 dmg - 40 sec reload = 1.625 dmg/sec Congreve - 59 dmg - 36 sec reload = 1.6388 dmg/sec 12pd comparison Medium - 79 dmg - 45 sec reload = 1.755 dmg/sec Congreve - 71 dmg - 41 sec reload = 1.732 dmg/sec 18pd comparison Medium - 104 dmg - 53 sec reload = 1.962 dmg/sec Congreve - 94 dmg - 48 sec reload = 1.958 dmg/sec Overall - statwise they aren't "better" then normal mediums. They are just more of the same or very slightly worse in some cases. EDIT: I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm not finding a reason to use Congreve's over normal medium cannons. even putting on mods/port bonuses/books - They are still nearly identical. My worry is that Congreve's don't have any meaningful difference and they won't be used. Obrusiers may have lower damage, but they have increased crew damage, which is a meaningful decision for a player who may value that more. Navy and Blomfield are just straight up better than Longs and will be highly sought after. My current conclusions is that I'd do 2 things with Congreves - Sell them to a player and laugh because they don't seem to understand that they are worse than normal mediums....or I'd destroy them since they take up inventory space. Edited May 30, 2019 by Teutonic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vizzini Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, admin said: lower reload means lower time to reload without being pedantic , faster and slower would be better descriptive words 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele OooOoOOoOOOooooOOOO Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 56 minutes ago, Vizzini said: without being pedantic , faster and slower would be better descriptive words that's what she said 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlatkowar Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 On 5/29/2019 at 11:32 AM, admin said: port bonuses changes As in make this feature available on PvE too so crafting makes sense again? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginulfr Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Sir Texas Sir said: What part of example you didn’t get. He wasn’t stating exact numbers for that ship. It’s a buff not a nerf. Also should wait for the patch before you complain that it’s a nerf. Should be the hotfix today though The changes were already live and my numbers were based upon the experience i had last night, not what was written by the Admin. I consistently hit 5th rate fleets of 3 so i know what the approximate xp I should be getting out of it, so when I tested it last night it was considerably lower, meaning they had deployed that 'hotfix" you were referring to. Put simply, they nerfed the xp from smaller ships way more than I think they needed to. i get buffing xp for higher ships, but if doesnt have to be so aggressive going down. They have already modeled that balance into the differenct in XP you need to get to the next level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) On 5/29/2019 at 2:27 PM, Hawkwood said: Dude, with all due respect, you don´t get it. There is no point in lowering the port BRs, simply because there will be no diversity in it. You will always have a quasi mono PB fleet, no matter how low or high BR is. If some day Prussia decides to take Nassau, i am looking forward to see a fleet of navy brigs, snows, rattles and mercs bravely attacking a wall of russian surps. In the name of "diversity".... Or are you talking about defending? Works the same way. Savy now? Here are your mirrored port battle fleets we had in port battles before this BR rework, these are just the few i've found and i know there are many more, since i know we lost some that i couldnt find atm. And these are screen shots from august (when the br rework started) to approx december. And these are pictures of both attacking and defending ports. My only comment to this is that the bucentaure was meta at the time because it was 10 more BR then the Bellona, but with todays BR rework those bucentaures would probably be bellonas or 3rd rates with some 2nd or 1st mixed in between them So please.. convince me that there wont be diversity in port battle fleets with the old Port BR https://imgur.com/gallery/TpYSdd9 Edited May 30, 2019 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinFX Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Damn they took away F11 coords; now we have to waste a perk on Sextant. That kinda sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I attacked and sunk today a wasa elite ship and all fleetships. There was no elite note in the hold. It is normal that not every elite ship has the note in hold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ink Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, El Patron said: It is normal that not every elite ship has the note in hold? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Bellaq Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, PaladinFX said: Damn they took away F11 coords; now we have to waste a perk on Sextant. That kinda sucks. Its a good decision. You can always triangulate from trade tool on the OW , and no f11 means that when you are in battle no more calling for help with exact coordinates. Edited May 31, 2019 by Jan Bellaq 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan van Santen Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 As to the new cannon: The spelling of 1 is wrong It is Blomefield Cannon , not as in game: Blomfield https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Blomefield https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-pounder_long_gun#Blomefield's_24-pounders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaos Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 22 hours ago, Jan Bellaq said: Its a good decision. You can always triangulate from trade tool on the OW , and no f11 means that when you are in battle no more calling for help with exact coordinates. You do realize that they said they will be removing the trader tool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan van Santen Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 1) Until now the f11 coordinates were the only way to do long distance trading on PvE server and still find your ports in rain and storm when sailing with 3 ships in fleet. Their removal was the removal of a usefull game feature... You should at least have compensated for that by making the sextant perk free, since sailing with sextant perk reduces fleet by 1 ship. 2) an other great flaw of the elite note system: While on PvP server all ships crafteable can have port bonuses, on PvE server Endymion or Trinco eg (crafteable, but no ai ship) will not be available as elite. Also, my question still remains: why do elite ships from notes never come with crew bonus ?? Suggestion: make elite notes class random ( a elite 5th rate can randomly drop any crafteable 5th rate elite note) and include crew bonus, so we on PvE server get the same as PvP. In the long run: make port bonuses on PvE crafter based as further extension of the shipyard 1,2,3 upgrade line. Edited June 1, 2019 by Jan van Santen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Victor Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 How na-map can still help finding and sharing your position although the game will not show F11 coordinates anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan van Santen Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Felix Victor said: How na-map can still help finding and sharing your position although the game will not show F11 coordinates anymore Thanks, complicated and less precise, but a workaround for something the game should have in itself. Method 2 will stop working when trader tool is removed . Edited June 1, 2019 by Jan van Santen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cetric de Cornusiac Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, Jan van Santen said: In the long run: make port bonuses crafter based as further extension of the shipyard 1,2,3 upgrade line. Supported. And refits for existing (well, after crap release wipe to-be-existing) gold and purple crafted ships, who lose their quality substance opposite converted elite ships if not refittable with similar port boni. Crafting ships becomes meaningless without their adaptation to the new port boni system (all talking done here about PvE server particularities). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan van Santen Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cetric de Cornusiac said: after crap release wipe it's not a crap wipe, its a political (well, thats the same as crap...) wipe. It makes no sense at all to wipe PvE server, you and I will (with the help of the PvE community) sail a decent capped or crafted sol within 2 weeks again, but it will get less "oh no, we lose all and pve looses nothing.." whines. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cetric de Cornusiac Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jan van Santen said: but it will get less "oh no, we lose all and pve looses nothing.." whines. in absence of a decent argument by devs of why suddenly the 'tranquility' of our server had to be disturbed by killing our ships, I have to suspect into the same direction. Envy of the PvP toxic faction towards us. So the "now carebears lose their ships, hehehe" satisfaction serves as compromise to us still keeping rank, knowledge, opened slots. But what a disappointment in our developers! Edited June 1, 2019 by Cetric de Cornusiac 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 On 5/20/2019 at 2:08 AM, admin said: Captains Patch 32 will be deployed today. Monday 20th May. Fixes Fixed crashes of client on exiting the game from port Admin, this is not fixed. It continues to happen for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsGoFluckYourselves Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 14 hours ago, Routan said: Trust me no PvP player Think so. We might like you forced moved to the war server. But even that is the fewest on war server that think so. No this is all admins work. You mean that fantastic idea of the pve safe zone inside the pvp server, ah, good times indeed. Well it's surely important they wipe everything but rank and knowledge, so, given crafting is completely dead, people don't even waste time with it, or gathering money, when what we need is just capping elite ship notes. And literally nothing else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquillas Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Yesterday, in front of KPR I sent a full broadside from my 32 pounds carronades (Belle Poule) into an Agamemnon (90°, aimed in sides, from 150 metres). None penetrated. Probably port bonuses and Carta and so on stacked. The question is, if fifths rates cannot deal with fourth anymore, what is their place in battle? Do we need Monitor and Merrimack in game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikawa Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Aquillas said: The question is, if fifths rates cannot deal with fourth anymore, what is their place in battle? I had the same question but it got since unanswered ... I guess there simply is no reasonable answer to this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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