Declaration of Victory and the Terms

[HoneyBaddger]

18 hours ago, Hodo said:

News flash.

France belongs to Britain. 

Richard the Lionheart - Born in France, was English King.

William the Conquer  - Born in France, first TRUE king of England.

 

New flash---Britain needs to worry about its current holdings before thinking about what they think is theirs!

[Slim McSauce]

17 minutes ago, The Red Duke said:

Well, yeah. Pretty much a non stop arena combat game. Early Legends.

The crazy thing is if you fit RVR into that, you'd have a near perfect NA. No more weak nations, just weak clans who could easily merge with other clans, ports owned by clans, everything up for grabs. If your clan gets rolled, disband and go to another, if your clan gets massive, people get greedy, noobs get insubordinate, civil war breaks out, the clan topples. 

No limitations and endless refreshing content. It'd be a best seller.

Edited July 28, 2017 by Slim Jimmerson

[Hethwill]

Just now, Slim Jimmerson said:

The crazy thing is if you fit RVR into that, you'd have a near perfect NA. No more weak nations, just weak clans who could easily merge with other clans, ports owned by clans, everything up for grabs. If your clan gets rolled, disband and go to another, if your clan gets massive, people get greedy, insubordinate, civil war breaks out, the clan topples. 

No limitations and endless refreshing content. It'd be a best seller.

...you mean... exclusive  "rear admiral" Yacht Clubs ?

[Slim McSauce]

Just now, The Red Duke said:

...you mean... exclusive  "rear admiral" Yacht Clubs ?

precisely!

[Hethwill]

Gotcha. Will expect regattas to be included on the premium package of admission.

[Slim McSauce]

Just now, The Red Duke said:

Gotcha. Will expect regattas to be included on the premium package of admission.

So its settled.......

 

 

Everyone go pirate if you want to experience a better, more pure NA!

We can achieve the dream!

#OneForAll

[Vernon Merrill]

Rumor has it there was a few pyrates sunk around Mortimer/Salina last night....   

 

Must have been those pesky Brits.  

[Vizzini]

34 minutes ago, Vernon Merrill said:

Rumor has it there was a few pyrates sunk around Mortimer/Salina last night....   

 

Must have been those pesky Brits.  

From the scoreboard I saw this morning, must have been the King Of Clowns

[Vernon Merrill]

1 hour ago, Vizzini said:

From the scoreboard I saw this morning, must have been the King Of Clowns

And his band of merry assholes....  bonjour, mes amis!!!!!!!

[Jarlath Morrow]

6 hours ago, JG14_Cuzn said:

Dude: Jarlath is a pirate  

he used to be GB.... but the going got tough and Jarlath and his buddy Doug got going.   To BLACK.  

 

How exactly was it "tough" to be Great Britain in early February? Too many ports made it hard to decide where to live? Or maybe keeping up with all the ships we crafted for the nation (those orders would really pile up).

If you were actually logging in during that time, you would know the really tough part was getting anyone but Doug to do open world PvP. We got a lot of experience fighting as a pair though. =)

[VirtuallyIdiotic]

19 minutes ago, Jarlath Morrow said:

How exactly was it "tough" to be Great Britain in early February? Too many ports made it hard to decide where to live? Or maybe keeping up with all the ships we crafted for the nation (those orders would really pile up).

If you were actually logging in during that time, you would know the really tough part was getting anyone but Doug to do open world PvP. We got a lot of experience fighting as a pair though. =)

Yeah I am with you Jarlath. Doug and you left far before any significant Pirate, Danish, and French counter attack ever occured. 

You two were always there at the pvp events, where most people stayed away out of fear of being ganked. 

[Slamz]

9 hours ago, Jarlath Morrow said:

Speaking from personal experience having 1 port, it's not as interesting as it might sound.

Also speaking from personal experience, the impact of it is hugely exaggerated.

Moreso now that you can only be "1 countied", with each home county having most of what you need to build basic ships.

Actually even moreso after today's patch, where you can just go get 5th rates for free from NPCs and then use them to capture better enemy ships if you hunt in groups and get some good tags.

Plus smuggler flags to go into enemy ports and buy stuff.

I mean RvR means more in NA than it means in Planetside, but it's not the impact people seem to think it is.

3 hours ago, Slim Jimmerson said:

Everyone go pirate if you want to experience a better, more pure NA!

That is an entertaining idea. Players could make their own FFA server at any time simply by all going pirate.

If they made Pirates be clan-based, they could still have port battles, too! Just against each other!

[Mike the Mongel]

3 hours ago, Slim Jimmerson said:

So its settled.......

 

 

Everyone go pirate if you want to experience a better, more pure NA!

We can achieve the dream!

#OneForAll

Your wisdom just amazes me...geeesh,

Sarcasm Off

[Trouble]

37 minutes ago, Mike the Mongel said:

Your wisdom just amazes me...geeesh,

Sarcasm Off

Actually this has been the Pirate agenda for some time now, every time they abuse a nation, many of that nations member switch to Pirate to avoid the abuse, it is quite intentional~

[Mike the Mongel]

46 minutes ago, Trouble said:

Actually this has been the Pirate agenda for some time now, every time they abuse a nation, many of that nations member switch to Pirate to avoid the abuse, it is quite intentional~

Abuse a Nation ??? is that what you call it ?  Its called PvP and lord help the Pirates who endured the ABUSE by US last year...but no wait we didn't run to the other side we stuck it out and stomped a mud hole in the US backside .

[Trouble]

1 minute ago, Mike the Mongel said:

Abuse a Nation ??? is that what you call it ?  Its called PvP and lord help the Pirates who endured the ABUSE by US last year...but no wait we didn't run to the other side we stuck it out and stomped a mud hole in the US backside .

Delusion much?

Vast majority of the US player base has gone Pirate or over to GB, so good job on beating up an inferior force and thinking you accomplished something grand,

[Mike the Mongel]

1 hour ago, Trouble said:

Delusion much?

Vast majority of the US player base has gone Pirate or over to GB, so good job on beating up an inferior force and thinking you accomplished something grand,

Ohhh ok my bad...it wasn't the US players cutting out on its players in Savanah and running to BRITs that caused the US issues....Delusional ????? yes you may be brother...OHHH and lets not forget how the US turned over most of its territory to BRITs so they can farm points...yeah..lets talk delusional...US screwed its own people

Edited July 29, 2017 by Mike the Mongel

[Pelennor]

2 hours ago, Trouble said:

every time they abuse a nation,

Hahaha, PvP is now abusing a nation, what a shame! These guys ill never learn, never figth. You better leave to PvE server, you have nothing to do here.

[Trouble]

11 minutes ago, Pelennor said:

Hahaha, PvP is now abusing a nation, what a shame! These guys ill never learn, never figth. You better leave to PvE server, you have nothing to do here.

Actually, if you you have been following along you would see we have plenty to do here, like join the Pirates,

that does seem to be their desired out come to this,

[Teutonic]

Lol

well at least the truth is out.

[Pelennor]

Empty threats that nobody care: join pirates if you want. There is no difference between a sheep in brit nation and a sheep in pirate nation: they both provide no content in a PvP game.

About Savanna: you want it ? Take it ! Don't wait on forum to have the right to flip it, NA isn't a .txt game. Simple as that.

[Sir Texas Sir]

9 hours ago, The Red Duke said:

If everyone goes the same nation a pvp server will become a pve server. Cool idea huh

Are the other thing is they think if they stop fighting and we get bored we will go away. It's what they allways do when they start to loose fights.  Where are the 25 PB fleet with another 25+ we say out side all these empty ports when GB/US took those ports.  It just blows me away how many folks go hide when there is actually fighting to be done and than cry saying some one is kiling there nation.   Maybe if they stop jumping ships and actually play the game they wouldn't be loosing so many players or ports.  When nothing happens folks get bored and stop playing or come over to the Pirates or other nations (LOVE went french after all) where they will get the fights and PvP to keep them from getting bored.  

5 hours ago, Davos Seasworth said:

Yeah I am with you Jarlath. Doug and you left far before any significant Pirate, Danish, and French counter attack ever occured. 

You two were always there at the pvp events, where most people stayed away out of fear of being ganked. 

When they switched over we where down to like 3-5 guys a night showing up.   We just couldn't fight the Brits and US any more cause folks got bored and left cause no one was fighting on both sides.  That is what kills the game is when folks stop doing stuff and think that is how you win the server.  

1 hour ago, Trouble said:

Actually, if you you have been following along you would see we have plenty to do here, like join the Pirates,

that does seem to be their desired out come to this,

And I'm pretty sure BLACK has decided if that happens we will roll another nation and do the same thing.  Jumping to a wining team doesn't make you the winner.  Fighting back does.  We all have 2 forge papers we can use at any time.  If we moved to Spain and did the same ya'll would be crying "SPAIN IS TO OP."  This has nothing to do with that we are Pirates or any other nation. The problem is that your nation lacks the will to fight unless it's an empty port battle or you have the numbers to make sure for a sure win and your solution is to either stop playing or jump ship?   No wonder ya'll fail at being one of the largest nations on the server.  

REMEMBER THERE IS A PVE SERVER IF YOU WANT  A SAFE PLACE TO PLAY.

[Koltes]

2 hours ago, Trouble said:

Actually, if you you have been following along you would see we have plenty to do here, like join the Pirates,

that does seem to be their desired out come to this,

Sleep easy. We don't want you
 

2 hours ago, Pelennor said:

...There is no difference between a sheep in brit nation and a sheep in pirate nation: they both provide no content in a PvP game...

They do,... as easy targets

[Slim McSauce]

Unfortunately with Savannah being taken by a mere 25 vs 75+, there is no reason for US to even try to retake it with so meta so in the opposite favor.

We have little 1st rates as it is with most going to GB and Pirates. An attack on Savannah would be futile, and only kill off the last bit of proper ships we have left.                  Unless we somehow found away to bend game mechanics to our advantage then Savannah is taking staying pirate.

Edited July 29, 2017 by Slim Jimmerson

[Archaos]

4 hours ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

Are the other thing is they think if they stop fighting and we get bored we will go away. It's what they allways do when they start to loose fights.  Where are the 25 PB fleet with another 25+ we say out side all these empty ports when GB/US took those ports.  It just blows me away how many folks go hide when there is actually fighting to be done and than cry saying some one is kiling there nation.   Maybe if they stop jumping ships and actually play the game they wouldn't be loosing so many players or ports.  When nothing happens folks get bored and stop playing or come over to the Pirates or other nations (LOVE went french after all) where they will get the fights and PvP to keep them from getting bored.  

 

I think what a lot of people in this thread seem to forget is the reason why many people on the Brit side decided to stop defending ports. They did not stop fighting because they thought you would get bored and go away, a lot stopped fighting because they way a game mechanic was being used to get a fleet into a port battle circumventing the defense.

Now you can argue the rights and wrongs of it till you are blue in the face but it raises a fundamental problem with the game mechanics. On the Pirates side in this case they felt that the British tactic of flooding the area with screeners whose sole objective was to kite the port battle fleet so they could not enter the battle was unfair, and I would agree that it is a bad game mechanic that allows that. So they found a game mechanic that allowed them to avoid the screen, but now the British felt that using the outlaw battle mechanic (or any other NPC/alt battle) to completely avoid the screen and enter the port battle was unfair use of a game mechanic too. So both sides feel they have a valid grievance, The Pirates will not fight PB's if they cannot find a way round the screening issue and the Brits wont defend if the Pirates can avoid the screen.

I think in the end it has to come down to the Devs to sort out these game mechanics somehow. For an OW game the ability to screen port battles should be a valid play style, but it should not just be a case of tag and chase, there should be a battle. The issue then arises on how do smaller nations ever manage to get into port battles as they will always struggle with the numbers to get past the large nation screeners.

Personally I think inserting game mechanics that allows smaller groups compete on the same terms as a larger groups is bad as it can end up skewing the game. If it is made too easy for a small nation to get into port battles then all you really need is a nation of 25 dedicated people to fight port battles. This small group can become very strong as they work closely together while the larger nation has to contend with giving many people opportunities in port battles, thus not getting to the same effectiveness as the smaller group.

If at the same time they allow direct access into port battles avoiding the screeners then they may as well do away with the OW RvR and make it a lobby RvR game. 

I do not have the answers to these problems, but I do feel these are some of the root causes of the current situation on Global server and there is no point hurling abuse at each other but rather try and come up with suggestions as to how these problems can be solved.