Elric Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I understand Steam has become the main marketing strategy for NA, but Steam is just awful. We've seen several outages and erratic behaviors over the past few weeks. I have been trying to setup Steam on a couple of different computers as I plan on swapping out the old PC running NA with a nice new one - but I have been frustrated( and then some) with Steam - part of the issue is they don't like you logging in from different PC's and bombard you with authentication emails. So I finally worked around that, now I am getting errors trying to launch NA under Steam on two different PC's. I've never had this much frustration with other non-Steam games. VERY frustrating. BTW, I had similar issues previously with Steam and other games. Who else hates Steam? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry d'Esterre Darby Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I hate it, but unfortunately it remains the best platform for small development houses that do not have the resources to host their own update servers, authentication server, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 When I bought NA, I was in two minds whether to buy or not - and it was not the game that gave me pause to think - it was Steam. I think there is a risk in continuing to stay tied to Steam in turning away potential buyers just because of the lousy Steam service. I doubt you can put much pressure on them, but somehow/someway, they MUST improve their service. Do you have any leverage with them to complain about their service quality? Do they provide you any service level commitment / performance guarantees? I spent 30+ years in IT, and for many of those years provided large customers (GM, US Navy, BBC and more) a service where we committed to meet their expectations - with punitive penalties when those service levels were not met. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spud Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I can't realy say I have had problems with Steam ever. The verification on new PC's takes 2 minutes tops and its for your own good. There's a nice amount of money invested there... I hope i have no more then 2 kids, so I can split my belongings evenly, one will have my house and saving the other will have my Steam account. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taranis Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I don't know if its steam related, but pvp2 seems to occasionally get these weird latency spikes - my ping goes from like 20 to 380 and back down again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Fishy Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I happen to quite like steam too, its a useful platform that brings both players into the game and keeps things simple, you don't have to faff around with a specialist launcher or anything like that. Its a nice simple system that comes with some support, a decent connection and helps bring the game to more people, while I would prefer the devs to get a bigger slice of the proceeds from sales steam is a very useful platform to be on. I can't imagine many people would even find the game unless it was on steam, I remember before we hit early access and the server populations didn't often peak above around 35 people online at any moment, I don't want to go back to that, I want people to play with. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Texas Sir Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Anything is better than EA Orgiins system. I swear it took me 12 hours last week to download ME2 and 9 hours to get ME. I haven't even tried to put ME3 back on my computer. I wanted to go back and play all three of them as new play throughs after watching the new teaser for ME:A. Now tell me that is some sucking download speeds,, than again it was allso during Battfield 1 Beta testing weekend so that might of been why. As for the computre thing that takes no time but it's a pain cause I get my work laptops swapped out all the time and I have to reset it on those computers every time cause I keep an external drive of all my games for travel to use with them. I think the recent lag problems is something else going on. NOt to mention the DDS attacks folks been getting in TS. The servers all seem to be in the same area that are having issues so it's prob major packet lost from certain routers we have to use and others don't to get to the game servers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just get a mobilephone identificator? Entering 4 Numbers/Letters really doesnt that that long ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Boneboys Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 There was a before Steam and an after. You've never had it so good ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Steam players - Peak 12,558,216 I would stay with this market even if I had to shave bald. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptiste Gallouédec Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Never had any problem with steam. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Budd Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Steam is the future for all digital games. and its not going to go away. Better get used to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Smith Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 As well cant complain on Steam - don`t bother about all those badges, gems etc...apart few minor problems works fine for me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lytse Pier Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 With buying a new rig every year, I can only say that Steam is the most appreciated service (right after our city garbage collection) in my life. ;-) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronans Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) He talks about Digital Homicid that is only thing steam have done anything about and what they did was protect the gamers do to those programmers doing realy bad games and when the youtubers say what they think about it they get lawsuits. and now they put in even more when players ask if they are real programmers they have been the same got a lawsuit. then they want the real names of the players and do the same to steam so who is doing bad thing ther. I love steam.. Edited September 20, 2016 by Kronans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 When I only used Steam for a couple of games, it was annoying to have that extra program to deal with. Now, I have a bunch of games on Steam, and I like it. Not only does it keep a bunch of my games organized, but I can buy games through the same program, easily install mods, chat with friends, etc. I only get the verification crap when I try to log in through my browser, which is annoying, but I don't do that very often. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Been using it for many years. Never had any issue with it. I like the enhanced security as it provides me and my family no problems with having our digital collection safe. Also it would be a pain to store all of the games in house. Just too many "junk". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Texas Sir Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Been using it for many years. Never had any issue with it. I like the enhanced security as it provides me and my family no problems with having our digital collection safe. Also it would be a pain to store all of the games in house. Just too many "junk". Yah we have two accounts in our house. Mine and the family one that I can watch what games are on it for the kids and what they can't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrdael Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Anything is better than EA Orgiins system. I swear it took me 12 hours last week to download ME2 and 9 hours to get ME. I haven't even tried to put ME3 back on my computer. I wanted to go back and play all three of them as new play throughs after watching the new teaser for ME:A. Now tell me that is some sucking download speeds,, than again it was allso during Battfield 1 Beta testing weekend so that might of been why. As for the computre thing that takes no time but it's a pain cause I get my work laptops swapped out all the time and I have to reset it on those computers every time cause I keep an external drive of all my games for travel to use with them. I think the recent lag problems is something else going on. NOt to mention the DDS attacks folks been getting in TS. The servers all seem to be in the same area that are having issues so it's prob major packet lost from certain routers we have to use and others don't to get to the game servers. Are you using a mobile connection? I am using both Steam and Origin and never had issues. Took me about 2 hours to install the Witcher 3 + alll DLCs with Origin (thats an average of 7MBit/s) and my updates on steam are too fast for me to click the "show downloads" button. Steam is fine, never waited longer than about 2 hours for the support to answer my requests and stuff. Way better than it used to be back in the beginning of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Boneboys Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 This is not a serious suggestion (Who else hates Steam?) therefore should be moved out of this Forum section or better still sent to the ocean floor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan van Santen Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) I never had any issues with Steam, on the contrary. I do eg own all parts of the Panzer Corps Franchise. They started outside Steam and than went to Steam, which means I dont have to dig out a dozen license keys, manually put them into my new PC, search for my old downloads, get the game updated etc.... Same goes for Civ and a few other old favorites. Should there ever be a NA 2, I hope its on Steam ! Edited September 21, 2016 by Jan van Santen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyKnox Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I have been using Steam for years. Never had a problem. The concept is very good, as it engages network economics to enable small game publishers to start with a powerful, stable host and market to a large, established community. ~ HK ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destraex Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 steam is fine imho. Prefer my games on steam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrdael Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 And it prevents yourself from having massive file clutter everywhere, everything is neatly organized in the good ole "steamapps\common" thing. No matter how many libraries you need on your partitions...( i have 4 ). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I understand Steam has become the main marketing strategy for NA, but Steam is just awful. We've seen several outages and erratic behaviors over the past few weeks. I have been trying to setup Steam on a couple of different computers as I plan on swapping out the old PC running NA with a nice new one - but I have been frustrated( and then some) with Steam - part of the issue is they don't like you logging in from different PC's and bombard you with authentication emails. So I finally worked around that, now I am getting errors trying to launch NA under Steam on two different PC's. I've never had this much frustration with other non-Steam games. VERY frustrating. BTW, I had similar issues previously with Steam and other games. Who else hates Steam? Go back to the old days of every time I buy a new computer I have to find all my old gamming disks and passwords to reinstall everything? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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