Urchin Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 This is no discredit to players of these nations and their conduct. "NAVAL ACTION IS AN EXCITING, REALISTIC, AND BEAUTIFULLY DETAILED NAVAL COMBAT GAME IMMERSING PLAYERS INTO THE EXPERIENCE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PERIOD OF NAVAL HISTORY - WHEN SAILING SHIPS RULED THE SEAS. " So why we're Prussia,Russia and Poland added to the Caribbean server? Is it just to test certain mechanics and they'll be removed before release? As per your description you have taken the time to develop a beautiful Caribbean map with historic port locations,distances and ships from the age of sail. Adding Russian,Polish and Prussian only drastically shifts NA away from the history and immersion you've attempted to recreate and represent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z4ys Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) We don't reenact history. It's a parallel universe with stuff that might have happen. Or was Sweden holding most ports and dominating the west Indies? Edited December 26, 2017 by z4ys 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iroquois Confederacy Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 I still want a Free Irish Navy. But Poland will have to suffice for now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Poland was much more capable of taking over the Caribbean than the pirates were, so go for it. With Jolly Roger lineships, it's already an alternative history game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbancourt Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 1 hour ago, William Wade said: As per your description you have taken the time to develop a beautiful Caribbean map with historic port locations,distances and ships from the age of sail. Adding Russian,Polish and Prussian only drastically shifts NA away from the history and immersion you've attempted to recreate and represent. Even without them it doesn't bear any resemblance to historical events. The game is not a historical reenactment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landsman Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Pretty much what already has been said. If we would go fo realism, there would be no need for any nations other than GB, FR and Spain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urchin Posted December 26, 2017 Author Share Posted December 26, 2017 33 minutes ago, Landsman said: Pretty much what already has been said. If we would go fo realism, there would be no need for any nations other than GB, FR and Spain... Britain,France,US,Spain,Dutch 5 main nations is enough, plus pirates in their historical role not as nation black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jean-Luc Picard Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Poles have a tendency to loose their country and have weird politicians, this creates a polish exodus to the four corners of the earth, including the Caribbean. The russians and prussians have a tendency to chase after the poles. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 34 minutes ago, William Wade said: Britain,France,US,Spain,Dutch 5 main nations is enough, plus pirates in their historical role not as nation black. Why bother with the Dutch for that matter? They didn't do much in the Caribbean after the 17th Century. If the Dutch are in, there's no reason to omit Sweden and Denmark. Maybe no one remembers, but there was no United States for quite a while either. They were only added because there were some committed American roleplayers back then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christendom Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 This game would be a lot better if people didn't care about the flag on the back of their ship. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtuallyIdiotic Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, Christendom said: This game would be a lot better if people didn't care about the flag on the back of their ship. You would care if your flag was as disgusting looking as ours in Poland. Looked like a child drew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 11 hours ago, William Wade said: This is no discredit to players of these nations and their conduct. "NAVAL ACTION IS AN EXCITING, REALISTIC, AND BEAUTIFULLY DETAILED NAVAL COMBAT GAME IMMERSING PLAYERS INTO THE EXPERIENCE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PERIOD OF NAVAL HISTORY - WHEN SAILING SHIPS RULED THE SEAS. " So why we're Prussia,Russia and Poland added to the Caribbean server? Is it just to test certain mechanics and they'll be removed before release? As per your description you have taken the time to develop a beautiful Caribbean map with historic port locations,distances and ships from the age of sail. Adding Russian,Polish and Prussian only drastically shifts NA away from the history and immersion you've attempted to recreate and represent. So you are saying that prussia, commonwealth and russia could not invade Caribbean or send colonial or privateering fleets there if they wished to do so? Please stop applying old games logic to NA. The pattern of adding spain france and britain to caribbean games had to be broken. Previous game makers could not even bother to research for example that st bartholomew was swedish (until 1877) and virgin islands were danish for example. And they were danish until 1917! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Davos Seasworth said: You would care if your flag was as disgusting looking as ours in Poland. Looked like a child drew it. We rely on references provided by polish players. @Bart Smith advised us on the naval jack and provided how it look historically. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunleader Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 To begin with the Game is an Alternate History. It would not make sense for it to be 100% Historical as then any Conquest etc would be wrong as well. Needless to say we would all sail around on small Boats and maybe 1 or 2 British Players would ever get a 3rd Rate to Drive around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urchin Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, admin said: So you are saying that prussia, commonwealth and russia could not invade Caribbean or send colonial or privateering fleets there if they wished to do so? Please stop applying old games logic to NA. The pattern of adding spain france and britain to caribbean games had to be broken. Previous game makers could not even bother to research for example that st bartholomew was swedish (until 1877) and virgin islands were danish for example. And they were danish until 1917! Applying old game logic? Applying the main nations that were historically accurate for the region and time period of NA. Five nations plus pirates is enough, just don't see why the need to add more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Van Boom Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) Hard to see but that is what the banner looked like. It could by 'improved' by using a fictional one such as this, I guess: Edited December 27, 2017 by boom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Dariena was Scotland/Ireland colony tryout for a dozen years or so. Maybe we should add one nation more 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I say that we should take it one step further and restrict the ships only to the nations that made them... Bah.. Like a lot of people before me have said, we are not here to reenact history. Alternate history scenarios can be way more fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Van Boom Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, Captain Jean-Luc Picard said: Poles have a tendency to loose their country and have weird politicians, this creates a polish exodus to the four corners of the earth, including the Caribbean. The russians and prussians have a tendency to chase after the poles. Ain't that the truth lol Edited December 27, 2017 by boom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojtek Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, boom said: Ain't that the truth lol The second part of the post is exactly the truth so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr33D Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 hours ago, boom said: Hard to see but that is what the banner looked like. It could by 'improved' by using a fictional one such as this, I guess: Each of the ships that formed polish fleet had also white eagle on the red background. Privateers jack was only used on the ships that did not belong to polish crown and as this was a high percentage of polish fleet ( as Poland hired at this time number of ships or captains) due to unexperienced captains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald Speirs Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 OK i don't know why the devs think that adding more nations to the game would be a good idea, the game population is no where near big enough to field most nations we have now, i would of culled nations and removed quite a few ports to fit the game population, we have already seen a server merge to try get more people in the same spot, it just seems like alot of the ideas and the way the game is moving is trying to make this game tank even quicker then its going, IMHO it feels like its really poorly managed and needs to find some new blood or creativity to help pull this game outta the hole that its been digging itself into Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landsman Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Davos Seasworth said: You would care if your flag was as disgusting looking as ours in Poland. Looked like a child drew it. 😂😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernon Merrill Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Yes, and then we should all have to sail sloops and Lynxs'.... Then, when you get 500 PvP kills, you get a Pickle.... 1000 more and you get a Brig.... 1000 more and you get a Prince.... Except every once in a while, if you do something super-brave, the Admiralty (Admin) rewards you with a Cerberus.... I kinda like this realism thing, actually..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landsman Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 45 minutes ago, Ronald Speirs said: OK i don't know why the devs think that adding more nations to the game would be a good idea It is a good idea. This gives individual clans more space and also more chances for PvP for everyone. Nobody stops you from joining the zerg nations and it isn't hard to find out or understand what nations have most pop / are the zerg nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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