Danish and Pirate clan "Sorry" are now at war

[Alvar Fañez de Minaya]

Let me tell us an old joke from Gila, a Spanish comediant...

Two friends having a beer .

You know what happened to me yesterday ?.

I was walking home and saw three big boys of more than two meters each hitting a poor man. And I started running toward it.

And what happened ?.

Mah , what a beating we gave the four ..

[Surathani]

Im afraid it doesnt hurt me at all good Sir, i have tens of millions in gold and materials, ports (free) full of ships and enough alt accounts to feed my abominable rotten pirate body for eternity .

 

Of course there is no proof for such claims. The "lol" level here is at a 10.

 

[Quineloe]

So basically your piling on with the others because when diplomacy comes out you don't want to be left on the other side.  How you get to this is by burning bridges with a nation you clearly think is doomed to dev-struction.

 

Seems fair enough.  See you on the seas.

 

So you ran from Britain to Pirates, expecting to be included in Alliances as Pirates?

lol I say, sir. lol

[Fletch]

you do realize that after the US got mapped and ausfc flipped and too all the ports they previously held that the pirates had 120+ ports and basically decided to stop steamrolling.

There was a conscious switch away from beating down nations because of player base salt. We basically as a whole stopped. When the AUS clan moved from PVP2 we had basically left the game and only had 15 people logging in to defend for a while and when devs adjusted PBs further to make it so attackers only had to be in a PB for like 20 minutes to win it we decided that the only way to play was OW. We gave most of our remaining ports to Spain and played screening for a while. Sorry basically did the same kind of wind down and thus the USA and other nations stopped being butt hurt about their smashings and started taking ports back....the tone of the server changed from oh noes the pirates are coming to OMG no skill fishing !! so leet Carebare mode on.

The pirate nation was effectively stood down as a PB force and has lost/given their ports away since then while waiting for new content to arrive.

I think we all know that the pirates stopped more than were beaten......regardless until mechanics change, PBs are a sad shadow of what they were when we had larger populations.

It is clear to me that Pirates are being nerfed in the next 2 patches at least and I don't see any Additions to them happening for many months so really nations jumping off the pirates bandwagon sort of makes sense.

Sorry and LV merely made endgame content entertaining on the forums and have a bit of flavour. You can hate LV as much as you want but he basically created a End Game Outcome by asking for ransom, Did things that made people talk about battles and not about broken mechanics and highlighted issues.

Now the Dev-struction is near the pirates have no friends and no PB game to play yet your still talking about them more than broken mechanics. Seems a very obvious reason why the devs/mods ain't redlining this thread.

I think you reached the point where you had vastly over extended yourselves and could no longer defend what you had, let alone push any further. Also didn't some of the Aus clan switch back to British again?

Its a nice story but the truth is you lost a lot of members back to the British and Spanish faction, you also faced a resurgent USA and a much stronger British faction than the one you were used to fighting.

In short you had reached your high water mark and the tide was turning.

Edited August 10, 2016 by Fletch67

[Fastidius]

So you ran from Britain to Pirates, expecting to be included in Alliances as Pirates?

lol I say, sir. lol

no expecting that it would get pirates changed faster.....we had be advocating of it for 4 months earlier but none of the other clans had the balls to to do it and force the devs hands.  Once Sorry had Us on the ropes it seemed a good chance to shoe the dominance pirates have with the mechanic. 

 

I didn't run i casual wandered out with 20 indiamen/LGVs and a big escort to boot and then was one of the last to swap over.

 

not reallly sure why you think any of my posts are about me anyway.  I'm pretty selfless with pixels

[Fastidius]

I think you reached the point where you had vastly over extended yourselves and could no longer defend what you had, let alone push any further. Also didn't some of the Aus clan switch back to British again?

Its a nice story but the truth is you lost a lot of members back to the British and Spanish faction, you also faced a resurgent USA and a much stronger British faction than the one you were used to fighting.

In short you had reached your high water mark and the tide was turning.

 Ran out of ports that were on aus or US timers more than anything and didn't want to put in the effort since we figured the point was made with the ransom paid and more ports than 4 other nations combined.

 

We only took 65 with us to pirates.....same 64 that are here and a few more.   None went to the spanish.  D4mi4n doesn't count he jumps factiosn every few weeks.  We simply stopped playing.  

 

And so you know finally being able to fight an enemy because they are overextended  when they own half the map might not be a definition for winning.   For wahtever reason regardless we stopped.

 

 

i'm not really sure how you get you came to any of your conclusions but i don't think you did any research.....you may wanna look up rust and islands of icarus to see  where our players are at the moment.  Our you youtubers are posting also but feel free to imagine whatever you like.

Edited August 10, 2016 by Fastidius

[Kair]

French, hehe. Tenaka, I hope you understand where all this leaves the French in the coming future?

Score points for France for not caving in immediately and trying to also join care bear alliance.

 

We (The French council) immediately stated we where going to defend our allies the Danes.

We never stated anything about joining any alliance other then the one we have at this moment : Meaning the Danes and our support to the Spanish (though we are not helping them as much as we would like to.).

Also, we have no grudge against other Pirates clans and/or independents that did not intervene in this conflict or French national affairs.

 

Please limit your statements regarding France to what has effectively been officially said by our Council representatives.

Edited August 10, 2016 by Kair

[mattdaniel]

We (The French council) immediately stated we where going to defend our allies the Danes.

We never stated anything about joining any alliance other then the one we have at this moment : Meaning the Danes and our support to the Spanish (though we are not helping them as much as we would like to.).

Also, we have no grudge against other Pirates clans and/or independents that did not intervene in this conflict or French national affairs.

 

Please limit your statements regarding France to what has effectively been officially said by our Council representatives.

 

In fact, at its meeting in teamspeack we spoke with miki mouse (French diplomat) and duffy duck (Danish diplomat)

oh no it's true it was a mystic dream of Lord vicous. I had forgotten

 

when things get tough, people are revealed for what they are

 

cowards suitable for PvE

Edited August 10, 2016 by mattdaniel

[mattdaniel]

Currently I believe miki mouse and duffy duck are in possession of some Ports unlike SORRY

if you own ports you are why you come to terms.

 

you came out from the conflict they let the Dutch and Swedes did the united front against pirates. knowing full well that the home ports were not attached

 

how dare you kidding pirates. 

[TommyShelby]

Does anyone have some popcorn? 

[SeaWolf_]

Does anyone have some popcorn? 

I do but it will cost you some gold

[Tenakha Kan]

 

In fact, at its meeting in teamspeack we spoke with miki mouse (French diplomat) and duffy duck (Danish diplomat)

oh no it's true it was a mystic dream of Lord vicous. I had forgotten

 

when things get tough, people are revealed for what they are

 

cowards suitable for PvE

 

 

What meeting are you referring to? on wich TS with wich participant? I would be glad to know and please don't say you don't recall the names.

 

We were contacted only once (after the taking of Macao),by an emissary of Lord Vicious on our TS. The guy told us he had an agreement with the Danes for a port exchange. That 180 players under the orders of Lord Vicous were ready to crush the Swedes. We had doubts, we went straight to the Danes to have confirmation of this agreement and learned we had been lied to. so we went to the Swedes on their TS. They were already aware of the attack on Macao.  the Danes joined later then the Dutch. You want proof. Ask the guys involved. Contrary to you we have names.

 

For Lord Vicious: crank1973

For the Danes: Kloothommel

For the Swedes: Sveno

For the French: Tenakha and Kair

For the Dutch: Morv (no diplomat were available)

Edited August 10, 2016 by Tenakha Kan

[Prater]

Sorry has alienated themselves from the French, the Danes, the Dutch, the British, the Swedes and the Americans.  Common theme?  Rubli and the other clans never did such a thing.

[Hethwill]

Reputation is all indeed.

[Vernon Merrill]

I'm not saying Matt Daniel and LV are the same person....  I'm just saying that they've never been seen in the same room together.....

[dumpert]

for future reference.

 

RUBLI have and always had our own set of relationships. we respect and will respect any agreement made by old pirate coalition (led by KOTO and Kuthara). we respect and will respect our own non-agression pact (including OW-pvp) with some danish clans (including RUS and RDNN), previously known as "omg pirate-danes alliance somebody stop the black plague please" unless we are attacked. we are still at war with some danish clans (including RAKERS and RNON).

 

we are not consider ourselves bounded by any agreement made by new "pirate council" (led by SORRY and Lord Vicious) without any consultations with us, including peace treaty with Spain and latest somewhat-agression vs danes.

 

__________________

 

that being said, i personally feel a lot of contempt towards danish political twists.

Edited August 10, 2016 by dumpert

[Hethwill]

I'm not saying Matt Daniel and LV are the same person....  I'm just saying that they've never been seen in the same room together..... with a single knife inside.

 

Fixed.

[Cabral]

What meeting are you referring to? on wich TS with wich participant? I would be glad to know and please don't say you don't recall the names.

 

We were contacted only once (after the taking of Macao),by an emissary of Lord Vicious on our TS. The guy told us he had an agreement with the Danes for a port exchange. That 180 players under the orders of Lord Vicous were ready to crush the Swedes. We had doubts, we went straight to the Danes to have confirmation of this agreement and learned we had been lied to. so we went to the Swedes on their TS. They were already aware of the attack on Macao.  the Danes joined later then the Dutch. You want proof. Ask the guys involved. Contrary to you we have names.

 

For Lord Vicious: crank1973

For the Danes: Kloothommel

For the Swedes: Sveno

For the French: Tenakha and Kair

For the Dutch: Morv (no diplomat were available)

 "...That 180 players under the orders of Lord Viscous were ready to crush the Swedes."  I have serious doubts about those numbers

[Guest]

 "...That 180 players under the orders of Lord Viscous were ready to crush the Swedes."  I have serious doubts about those numbers

 

Then again, that's the typical advantage ratio at which they usually come out and fight ^^

[Cabral]

 But I don't believe that there are so many pirates under his orders and ready for his agenda.

[GrapeShot]

Maybe he figured out how to get all his alts on line at once.

[Guest]

Naturally not, it's just half-truths - at best it's the members list of the clan, active or inactive. Hell, I'm in a 60-man clan with only four guys online at the same time on a good day.

[Prater]

LV advertises that his clan has 160 members, has it jumped up to 180 now?  Anyway, 75%+ of those are inactive.

[Dick Brave]

Gentlemen, my honourable Danish Sirs,

 

the Dutch Nation High Council offers its cooperation to the Nations of France, Sweden and Denmark-Norway to face this new Pirate thread: http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/15705-official-announcements-of-the-dutch-nation-high-council/?p=295045

[Bach]

We (The French council) immediately stated we where going to defend our allies the Danes.

We never stated anything about joining any alliance other then the one we have at this moment : Meaning the Danes and our support to the Spanish (though we are not helping them as much as we would like to.).

Also, we have no grudge against other Pirates clans and/or independents that did not intervene in this conflict or French national affairs.

 

Please limit your statements regarding France to what has effectively been officially said by our Council representatives.

Perhaps something was lost in translation. I WAS giving the French credit for NOT joining the new alliance. Just like you stated above.

OW PvP was at its best when France owned ports in West Haiti alongside Denmark and Sweden. This brought closer fights for GB, Dutch, Spain and Pirates. Possibly USA as well. Since the GB-Dutch became dominant in western Haiti some PvP has died off and we do need to sail more to find similar concentrations of enemies in the same waters.