The Liberation of the United States of America

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Every time SORRY takes a US port RNGeezus kills a kitten.  Please SORRY, think of the kittens...

 

 

[Gooneybird]

That is why we are SORRY. We have been accused of being Racist, Cheaters, Game Exploiters, Toxic and many other things, mostly by members of the Council.....

 

 

 

In the end, terror always loose.

 

I don't know about racism but yes I've witnessed Pirates making use (exploiting) some of the unique features they as a faction seem to have over the other nation factions. Not really the users fault; The exploits are there and I'm sure almost everybody would make use of it when being threatend. So does this makes you a cheater? Perhaps not in the legal sense... no. But for many it sure feels that way and marking such use as exploiting the possibility is indeed warranted..

 

What is also to blame for is the toxic attitude many members seem to have including Pirates. What is sad is that these people are willing to go so far to manipulate the gameplay just becasue of personal issues. Challenge folks on the level of gameplay is fine but manipulating on a personal level is just not OK. 

 

As posted somewhere else in the forum (but removed by mods), in the end the devs will correct certain issues. If they don't and allow for imbalance to stay, their income goes down the drain.

[Hethwill]

The only Lesson learned is probably: "if you behave like a ****, nobody wants to play with you. And you have to fight empty port battles every day or" (or sit in Carlisle being bored)

When people are gracious in victory and humble in defeat other people enjoy playing with them. This is a game and The players decide who they play with. If the game consists of more people that are just not fun to play with, they stop playing altogether.

Fortunately the vast majority of players is not like the handful of people boasting on the forums.

 

Yup.

[BeeRanch]

Really guys all of the accusations and stuff like that is water under the bridge to me. I gave a brief history for ERIKS because he didn't understand why Lord Vicious had his "panties in a bunch". 

 

The false accusations only serve to make us more united and more determined to kick the crap out of anyone who stands before us.

 

Your only solution is to beat us at the game. Break our will to fight. Demoralize us so badly that our members are scattered to the wind and our leaders run and hide.

 

Much like what we have done to the Council. 

Edited May 18, 2016 by BeeRanch

[eriks]

 Break our will to fight.

 

 

Why would we do that?

 

How would that be good for the game?

 

How is chasing players from the game a good thing?

 

The game is bigger than any stupid clan.

[Red Jack Walker]

Why would we do that?

 

How would that be good for the game?

 

How is chasing players from the game a good thing?

 

The game is bigger than any stupid clan.

+ 10000000000

[BeeRanch]

We have met our aims and crushed the Council.

We have been magnanimous in our offer of peace to the USA.

We are willing to let the USA up off the mat so that they may reorganize, rebuild and hopefully find leaders who know how to fight fleet actions.

 

The USA has no excuse for their inability to defend themselves. They have had the advantage of numbers, resources and shipbuilders. Their leaders have squandered those advantages. 

 

The American Council has been outplayed at every level save bi*ching in the forums. 

[akd]

We have met our aims and crushed the Council.

We have been magnanimous in our offer of peace to the USA.

We are willing to let the USA up off the mat so that they may reorganize, rebuild and hopefully find leaders who know how to fight fleet actions.

 

The USA has no excuse for their inability to defend themselves. They have had the advantage of numbers, resources and shipbuilders. Their leaders have squandered those advantages. 

 

The American Council has been outplayed at every level save bitching in the forums. 

 

Hmm...unilateral declaration of end of war just as you start losing ports to Brits behind your overextended front.  Interesting.

[Haratik]

We have met our aims and crushed the Council.

We have been magnanimous in our offer of peace to the USA.

We are willing to let the USA up off the mat so that they may reorganize, rebuild and hopefully find leaders who know how to fight fleet actions.

 

The USA has no excuse for their inability to defend themselves. They have had the advantage of numbers, resources and shipbuilders. Their leaders have squandered those advantages. 

 

The American Council has been outplayed at every level save bitching in the forums. 

 

you do realize you'll never get the peace you wish for so badly right?  An MMO "war" can last for months, if not years, even if it's not hotly contested.  No, you won't get your peace.  Not now, not ever.  That's one thing Americans don't do, give up.

[BeeRanch]

you do realize you'll never get the peace you wish for so badly right?  An MMO "war" can last for months, if not years, even if it's not hotly contested.  No, you won't get your peace.  Not now, not ever.  That's one thing Americans don't do, give up.

At this point it doesn't matter much what the Americans do.  The opportunity to affect the outcome by negotiation is disappearing fast. We will do what we do. Do not mistake our willingness to be merciful with weakness or a lack of determination. 

[Haratik]

Oh never that, it's like a dog fighting owner pretending to show mercy before plunging the knife deep and twisting it.

If SORRY were any other clan, you might be believable.

[Cragger]

At this point it doesn't matter much what the Americans do.  The opportunity to affect the outcome by negotiation is disappearing fast. We will do what we do. Do not mistake our willingness to be merciful with weakness or a lack of determination. 

 

I honestly wonder if you actually do believe that any of us that haven't jumped shit like rats want or wanted to change the outcome. 

[_Masterviolin]

Fun fact, good sirs

 

Naval Action is a game. We're all playing because we love the age of sail, we love naval warfare, and the ships look super awesome, especially the Renommee. (Riiiiiight?)

 

Now now, there's no reason to get passionate about the American cause or the "SORRY" cause, there's no reason to dramatize two groups of people competing in a game into righteous conflicts to "overthrow tyranny", or screw over a "racist" clan. There's no fun in rubbing salt into wounds, glorifying victories or dramatizing defeats. 

 

If you want a reason to fight out there, then fight for the cause of just enjoying yourselves, not freeing your enemy of "oppression". If you can't enjoy the game because your enemy scores victories over you, or you can't love Naval Action without throwing salt into wounds, then I recommend you to consider looking at the game from a different perspective.

 

We're all grownups here. Can't we enjoy the bloody game without this level of profanity, bickering and disrespect? 

[delaine]

 

Fun fact, good sirs

 

Naval Action is a game. We're all playing because we love the age of sail, we love naval warfare, and the ships look super awesome, especially the Renommee. (Riiiiiight?)

 

Now now, there's no reason to get passionate about the American cause or the "SORRY" cause, there's no reason to dramatize two groups of people competing in a game into righteous conflicts to "overthrow tyranny", or screw over a "racist" clan. There's no fun in rubbing salt into wounds, glorifying victories or dramatizing defeats. 

 

If you want a reason to fight out there, then fight for the cause of just enjoying yourselves, not freeing your enemy of "oppression". If you can't enjoy the game because your enemy scores victories over you, or you can't love Naval Action without throwing salt into wounds, then I recommend you to consider looking at the game from a different perspective.

 

We're all grownups here. Can't we enjoy the bloody game without this level of profanity, bickering and disrespect? 

 

full support think its time for the americans to suck up there pride put egos aside and accept the pirates mercy

[saintjacktar]

Bahahaha!!! Sounds like someones affraid of what the new patch will bring!?... an even playing field! XD We will never surrender to the likes of you! U-S-A! U-S-A!! U-S-A!!

[vonKrimm]

Bahahaha!!! Sounds like someones affraid of what the new patch will bring!?... an even playing field! XD We will never surrender to the likes of you! U-S-A! U-S-A!! U-S-A!!

 

Thou roguish toad-spotted vassal; the fork is deep in thee and thou art well-done!

http://wiredstar.com/nainsults/

Edited May 19, 2016 by vonKrimm

[Captain]

At this hour, the last overseas bastion of the discredited regime is falling under siege. It will fall. 

 

When the sun rises tomorrow it will be a new day for America in more ways than one. Returned to their core home waters, they will be able to focus and rebuild. They should bear in mind the ruins that surround them and think on what, and who, got them there. 

 

Liberated from misrule and from delusion, America can begin the work of starting anew. Surgery requires cutting into the patient, but the harm is beneficial.

 

A great victory has been achieved through focused teamwork, organization and unfailing determination. But none of this suffices without good leadership.

 

The proof is in the pudding. 

 

Going forward, depending upon the behavior of the Americans, an occupation of their home waters may or may not be necessary. We do not plan to let the work we have done be squandered. 

 

A good teacher doesn't let his pupil take his recess before the lesson is learned. 

[saintjacktar]

At this hour, the last overseas bastion of the discredited regime is falling under siege. It will fall. 

 

When the sun rises tomorrow it will be a new day for America in more ways than one. Returned to their core home waters, they will be able to focus and rebuild. They should bear in mind the ruins that surround them and think on what, and who, got them there. 

 

Liberated from misrule and from delusion, America can begin the work of starting anew. Surgery requires cutting into the patient, but the harm is beneficial.

 

A great victory has been achieved through focused teamwork, organization and unfailing determination. But none of this suffices without good leadership.

 

The proof is in the pudding. 

 

Going forward, depending upon the behavior of the Americans, an occupation of their home waters may or may not be necessary. We do not plan to let the work we have done be squandered. 

 

A good teacher doesn't let his pupil take his recess before the lesson is learned. 

YOU CAPTURED UNDEFENDED PORTS AND ATTACKED A WEAKER NATION !! THIS PROVES NOTHING !!!!

[_Masterviolin]

At this hour, the last overseas bastion of the discredited regime is falling under siege. It will fall. 

 

When the sun rises tomorrow it will be a new day for America in more ways than one. Returned to their core home waters, they will be able to focus and rebuild. They should bear in mind the ruins that surround them and think on what, and who, got them there. 

 

Liberated from misrule and from delusion, America can begin the work of starting anew. Surgery requires cutting into the patient, but the harm is beneficial.

 

A great victory has been achieved through focused teamwork, organization and unfailing determination. But none of this suffices without good leadership.

 

The proof is in the pudding. 

 

Going forward, depending upon the behavior of the Americans, an occupation of their home waters may or may not be necessary. We do not plan to let the work we have done be squandered. 

 

A good teacher doesn't let his pupil take his recess before the lesson is learned. 

You're not helping. You beat the Americans because they're your in-game enemy, don't pretend there's some right and glorious cause to it. This goes both ways.

 

If you really think that the pirates defeated the United States in the past week to "teach a lesson" in "leadership", and that you need to declare some sort of vassalization status of the United States, then I urge you to perhaps realize that, once again, you're playing a game. I think we (or the vast majority) can agree on that point.

 

In addition, if you really are so "passionate" for your "cause", then consider dropping the dramatic imagery and metaphor mate. It's really not necessary; you're just rubbing salt into wounds. 

 

This entire post has one punitive purpose; to "bitch" , as a member so wisely put over the nature of the series of American defeats in the past weeks. I don't see how this is helpful in forwarding the game, the welfare of the community, or anything else. I respectfully request an admin consider closing this wholly useless and purely punitive post.

[Captain]

There were only two ways it could be, master violin. Either the first way, where the American leaders realized the danger to their nation and ignored the danger to themselves, and stood proud in battle, win or lose. There would have been more than enough dignity to be found in that, whatever the outcome. Maybe even glory.

But instead it went the other way. Nothing but disgrace for those people, the wretched smell of it all over the place.

But even the darkest and coldest winter leads to a spring. There were people who did fight back, who didn't hide, who made real sacrifices but weren't deterred. It's no secret who they are.

You can only hoodwink people so long, eventually they wise up. It's difficult to believe any American player can read or hear the self satisfied drivel of the discredited ones without thinking, "what on earth do you people have to be proud of? Where were you?"

It turns out, as the dramatic shifts in control of territory that have come to pass these last two weeks have demonstrated, that there are two different, but in no sense equal, dispositions a person can choose to display.

One is the mouth, the other is the deed.

Action, it certainly seems, speaks louder than words.

Imagine for a moment a wind-up clockwork monkey, one that bangs together cymbals. What can it do? It's gears turn and it seems come to life and makes noise. It doesn't possess judgment, or dignity, or character, or bravery, or selflessness. It isn't clever, it can't inspire confidence or form a plan. It can't do anything but make noises, over and over again, always the same.

Someone else might be able to draw a parallel between that, and what has transpired here.

Your correspondent cannot.

[_Masterviolin]

There were only two ways it could be, master violin. Either the first way, where the American leaders realized the danger to their nation and ignored the danger to themselves, and stood proud in battle, win or lose. There would have been more than enough dignity to be found in that, whatever the outcome. Maybe even glory.

But instead it went the other way. Nothing but disgrace for those people, the wretched smell of it all over the place.

But even the darkest and coldest winter leads to a spring. There were people who did fight back, who didn't hide, who made real sacrifices but weren't deterred. It's no secret who they are.

You can only hoodwink people so long, eventually they wise up. It's difficult to believe any American player can read or hear the self satisfied drivel of the discredited ones without thinking, "what on earth do you people have to be proud of? Where were you?"

It turns out, as the dramatic shifts in control of territory that have come to pass these last two weeks have demonstrated, that there are two different, but in no sense equal, dispositions a person can choose to display.

One is the mouth, the other is the deed.

Action, it certainly seems, speaks louder than words.

Imagine for a moment a wind-up clockwork monkey, one that bangs together cymbals. What can it do? It's gears turn and it seems come to life and makes noise. It doesn't possess judgment, or dignity, or character, or bravery, or selflessness. It isn't clever, it can't inspire confidence or form a plan. It can't do anything but make noises, over and over again, always the same.

Someone else might be able to draw a parallel between that, and what has transpired here.

Your correspondent cannot.

I could, of course continue this little bout of ours by responding with a facepalm, once again pointing out how utterly ridiculous this all is, yet I would be repeating myself.

 

Like a parrot that only knows a single phrase, trying to convey a message, but can only merely repeat a word or so.

 

Oh damn, that dramatic metaphor thing is contagious.

 

I'v'e said my piece already, so I'll be off and just watch from a distance, chuckling to myself.

[Muminukas]

Facepalm.

[Diceman]

There were only two ways it could be, master violin. Either the first way, where the American leaders realized the danger to their nation and ignored the danger to themselves, and stood proud in battle, win or lose. There would have been more than enough dignity to be found in that, whatever the outcome. Maybe even glory.

But instead it went the other way. Nothing but disgrace for those people, the wretched smell of it all over the place.

But even the darkest and coldest winter leads to a spring. There were people who did fight back, who didn't hide, who made real sacrifices but weren't deterred. It's no secret who they are.

You can only hoodwink people so long, eventually they wise up. It's difficult to believe any American player can read or hear the self satisfied drivel of the discredited ones without thinking, "what on earth do you people have to be proud of? Where were you?"

It turns out, as the dramatic shifts in control of territory that have come to pass these last two weeks have demonstrated, that there are two different, but in no sense equal, dispositions a person can choose to display.

One is the mouth, the other is the deed.

Action, it certainly seems, speaks louder than words.

Imagine for a moment a wind-up clockwork monkey, one that bangs together cymbals. What can it do? It's gears turn and it seems come to life and makes noise. It doesn't possess judgment, or dignity, or character, or bravery, or selflessness. It isn't clever, it can't inspire confidence or form a plan. It can't do anything but make noises, over and over again, always the same.

Someone else might be able to draw a parallel between that, and what has transpired here.

Your correspondent cannot.

I'm confused...

Are you the wind up monkey???

[LTCjRet]

When someone finally invents time travel I'm going to dial in the date that this Council of which they speak pissed in these guy's Wheaties.  Judging by the degree of sunburn on display it must have been truly epic.

 

What part of IT'S A GAME is so hard to grasp?

[EricKilla]

When someone finally invents time travel I'm going to dial in the date that this Council of which they speak pissed in these guy's Wheaties.  Judging by the degree of sunburn on display it must have been truly epic.

 

What part of IT'S A GAME is so hard to grasp?

Frankly I don't think there was any set date. The part that pissed them off the most was Stephen's thread on the reinforcement "exploit".