EricKilla

I, for one, am enthused about finally getting some timers that I can defend that aren't in the middle of goddamn European timers or stuck in the middle of the Bahamas. Some of us have to work, you know! We might actually get an honest to god battle and not these troll flags we've had being pulled for the past month.

Lolwut? Why are you even posting here?

I concur that it is a fun war, but at the same time you have folks like Alex SD going on in Global Chat about how "I'm tired of fighting Mericanos."

If you can't support us, then why would GB and America be allied? Both the British and the Dutch Councils made it clear that, despite this treaty, the United States would not be left alone to fend for itself against Spain and the Pirates. Players will be players; they cannot be controlled. Anyone can randomly pull a flag or screen a port.

We offered for you to keep Cayo de Sal and La Anguilla with us retaining control of Cayo Vacas and Las Tortugas. This is exceedingly fair, as it secures a clean border and protects both nation's interests. We would, of course, return Cuyo and Baja if you were to accept the deal.

It's all funny, but I agree. Also, can you correct my name? The K is uppercase.

The sad thing is I don't do many missions, maybe 3 or 4 a week, if that. Most of the time that I'm on, I'm doing port battles, clan management, or some form of Diplo. I'm at work most of the day, and can only stay up so late, so I only have about 4-5 hours of play time each night.

I've been waiting a long time for a bounty. Who would have thought that leading a port battle would have gotten me a bounty. I was expecting SORRY or maybe the Spanish to do it, but nope, it was an American. I'll also pay out an additional 250k for each kill up to two kills for any non-US player who claims the bounty. I look forward to the fights!

The pirates can be beat. Check out the PVP1 map. They held 120-140 ports total at one point; the entire Bahamas, US Eastern Seaboard up to Charleston, north side of Hispaniola, part of Cuba, the entire Gulf, and Central America down to Panama. They were pushed back to three ports the other day. Sure, the pirates have an advantage, but they are not as bad as you make them out to be.

To be fair, it's not nearly as bad on PVP1, We have more players and each nation exists; no nation has been pushed back to 1 port. Yes, "oh my look at the pirates", but then again the pirates did the same thing on PVP1 that the US did on PVP2, so we're just as pissed at them as you are at the US on PVP2. Also, pirates aren't a nation, so we don't extend them the same mercy that we offer nationals. They've really gone and started actually privateering, like they're supposed to, which I really quite enjoy. Anyways, we've been making peace deals to ensure that factions aren't wiped off the map to preserve the player base. It would appear that PVP2 USA doesn't care.

Welcome to the US on PVP1 in April and May. Be glad they can't zerg 1st rates in every Port Battle like our attackers did. Though, I will admit, it was more because the leader of one big clan was angry at us, not because we pissed off a lot of people. Getting hit hard is part of the game. The United States on PVP2 is over extended, undermanned, and uncoordinated. I will admit, it sucks to lose a lot of ports, but that's not really faulty mechanics; it's flaws within your community. They are more organized, they are better equipped, and they have the manpower during your timer window. A spirited defense will halt an attack like that in its tracks.

As we haven't held a session regarding this, I can't speak for the US Nation or US Congress, but I suspect I will be setting up an outpost in La Mona shortly. I am a firm believer of the thinking that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," and I am eager to see what fun this war will create.

My two cents on the whole deal: Overall I like this idea. I figured it would take a while to capture ports with the proposed new system. In regards to the other points: Capturable Capitals: Based on my experiences as a US nation player, which has been driven to its capital twice in recent memory, I feel this is a very bad idea. Countries can easily come back from a string of hard hitting PBs. A group like what SORRY used to be, having demoralized a country, could theoretically sweep a country of its ports in a very short period of time, as they did to us, even with mechanics changes. This would leave players scrambling, unable to prepare properly to fight, and then they find themselves having lost their capital, forced to utterly capitulate. Based on what happened to the the playerbase of the US nation during both of the times we were pushed back to Charleston, the game as a whole would heavily suffer from such an arrangement. The objective should be making it harder to wipe a country off the map, not easier. Total Victory: This should be only achievable if one country conquers or allies every nation in the game. Otherwise it'd just be frustrating. Being an RvR driven player myself, watching the map reset every time a small country like Denmark or Sweden got pushed back to their capital would be exceptionally frustrating, and would drive me from the game. I really like the way it is now, where the balance of power shifts and territory gradually changes hands. Don't rock the boat, y'know? Not only this, but I have no idea how this would even work with outposts, resources, etc... The only way I could possibly see this working would be to do a full server wipe of ships, resources, blue prints, port ownership, etc... Also, to be frank, the economy is really stagnant and boring. This would make it even less fun to handle economy, as it'd likely break a more dynamic economy system. Free ports: So long as each region has a free port, I don't see the need to move them. Missions: I like this idea. Get the carebears out of their corner.

Not at all. Before this mess, all we wanted was to be Spain's friend and possibly an ally. The only reason Spain are/were at war with three factions is because Spain back-stabbed and betrayed every one of those nations. The thing that drives me crazy is all these people from the Spanish rank and file who just want to end the war for a bit. Yet, when we attempt to bring about such a peace, the Spanish are not willing to compromise, or in most cases, even talk to us. If you want peace, then force your "leaders" to listen to you and sue for peace. For once we agree on something.

THIS! THIS SUMS THE SITUATION UP PERFECTLY! We attacked ports near your capital with the express intention of showing you that the United States will not stand by idly as it is betrayed and back-stabbed by a nation it had spent months currying favor to, to improve relations. We have no intentions of actually keeping those ports. If it secures peace so that Spain can rebuild and be healthy when the diplo patch rolls around, I bet we would be more than happy to return them.

The terms we have offered you, time and time again, are the following: We keep Cayo Vacas and Las Tortugas, you keep La Anguilla and Cayo del Sal, and we'd return Carahatas as well. This seems exceedingly fair to me. Not sure about you. We have made this offer time and time again, yet we are faced with a stern "we are not willing to speak with the United States at this time" or an unyielding "give us Tortugas and Vacas". We have offered a fair compromise, yet the irrational Spanish refuse to accept even that. We are told by the Spanish that Las Tortugas and Cayo Vacas are too close to the Spanish mainland, but Islamorada and Mimbres are as close, if not closer, than those two ports (around 10-12 minutes sail at 19 kts). Not only that, but Cayo Vacas is a short distance from our ports (think less than 5 minutes at 9 kts), cuts off our supply line between the West and East Coast of Florida, and cuts us off from the free port of Key West. This is clearly unacceptable. We would be ceding the losing party in the war a serious strategic advantage, which is absurd. I resent this. Hostilities began when Spain violated their territorial agreement with the United States after taking the West Coast of Florida. We had a longstanding agreement, not unlike our current borders. Spain broke that agreement and took rightful American ports lost temporarily to the pirate menace.

Good to see this finally formalized. Nothing new, but this is long overdue.

A fun story. Silly French. In regards to your quote; I don't think running up the French ensign upside down really is going to do much. Maybe the royal French ensign (Vive le Roi!), but not the Revolutionary/Napoleonic French ensign.

If I may say a few things about Neuvitas: The damn NPCs popped out of port after we started the tag. The objective was not to kill your fleet, it was to halt your advance into Neuvitas, and hold you up long enough for the flag to expire. We were successful in this objective. There was also a large force of British ships outside the battle as well that were preparing to enter.

It absolutely is.

I feel it is worthy to mention that our diplomats sat in the Spanish National TS on Friday for seven hours and were told, and I quote, "We are not holding diplomatic talks with the United States at this time." We want to find a peace agreement. It is the Spanish who do not wish to sue for peace, not us.

I would be fine for giving up Cayo de Sal and La Anguilla, and even Puerto de Nipe, but I cannot abide the lost of Cayo Vacas and Las Tortugas. That opens up a clear assault route against our southern ports, and drives a wedge in our supply lines between the west and east coast of Florida.

We are, but that is contingent on the Spanish Diplomats actually wanting to talk with us, which it appears they don't. Thus, doing this peace deal will leave us hanging, alone against Spain and the Pirates, despite repeated assurances from the Dutch that they would not sue for peace unless we were part of the peace deal. Not to mention this peace deal was proposed without the approval of the Dutch Council, so yeah, right now this is a SNAFU. During talks, Britain and the Dutch told us that they would not sue for peace without America being involved. Essentially, if Britain and the Dutch finished this deal without us being represented, they would be backstabbing us by directly contradicted what they had said, numerous times, and that would throw our alliances in question.

In that, you are correct. You have awoken the United States and filled us with the resolve to unify and fight. Let us see if SORRY is all bark and no bite, or if they're able to rise to the challenge and back up their talk. (I know what you meant with the context, but it was too perfect since you didn't indicate who was saying.)

Pray tell, why? Just because they left SORRY, or is it something else? As Sun Tzu once said, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." If they are KOS by every clan, then I might need to support them.