Nick Thomadis Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Dear Admirals, We have news about the final and definite changelog regarding the upcoming Alpha-12 update which we announced here. From the moment we announced the patch we added even more new ships, new missions, more fixes and a new special feature for torpedoes, which now have different models and size according to technology and torpedo dimensions. We will not be able to add the ship weight offset improvements, as this feature needs more work. The patch will be offered next week. You can read its updated content below: *==============================* *ALPHA-12* *==============================* NEW HULLS & MODELS 22 new hulls offer countless different new designs. In particular, the new hulls are the following: New model that can recreate the German “Deutschland-class” cruisers such as the “Graf Spee”. In-game it can be used with the name “Advanced Armored Cruiser Ι” after year 1921, as a hull between 14,900 and 18,900 tons with special hull resistance characteristics making it especially durable even against battleships. New model that can recreate the Japanese battleship “Fuso” after its reconstruction. The new hull is available after the year 1924 with a displacement between 36,000 and 69,000 tons and code name “Modernized Dreadnought III”. New Japanese “Dreadnought IV” variant available between the years 1914 and 1927 and with displacement of 26,000 - 46,000 tons. New Italian “Dreadnought I” variant available between the years 1906 and 1918 and with displacement of 18,000 - 26,000 tons. New German “Advanced Armored Cruiser II” variant which is a speculative continuation of the Deutschland-class and can be found in years after 1927. Its displacement is between 17,900 and 22,900 tons. New Japanese “Heavy Cruiser II” variant with a displacement of 13,400-15,600 tons that can be found after the year 1922. It has a flat light hull and a selection of towers that can make it good at firing from long distances. New Japanese “Experimental Heavy Cruiser” variant with a displacement of 15,900-22,100 tons that can replicate ships similar to the Japanese “Tone-class” and can host a large amount of torpedo tubes. It is available after the year 1934. New “Fast Battleship” variant a special Battlecruiser hull available for Russia, Spain, Italy, Austro-Hungary, China after the year 1935. It has a displacement between 45,000 and 75,000 tons and can be a good compromise between firepower and protection. New Austro-Hungarian ”Modern Battleship” variant with displacement between 51,000 and 81,000 tons available after the year 1929. New Chinese “Experimental Battleship” variant available after 1929. It is a hull of 42,500 - 55,000 tons which can offer unusual battleship designs with all-forward gun mounts. New Chinese “Modern Battleship I” variant available after 1936 and with displacement between 50,500 and 60,500 tons. New Spanish “Modern Battleship II” variant with displacement between 61,500 and 71,500 tons available after 1929. New Italian “Modern Battleship II” variant with displacement between 60,500 and 70,500 tons available after 1929. New Japanese “Experimental Battleship” variant available after 1929 with displacement between 47,000 and 72,000 tons. This hull can produce designs resembling early unofficial Japanese battleship designs that had all the main guns forward. New Russian “Modern Battleship II” variant which is available after 1936 and has displacement between 65,000 and 79,000 tons, offers a very robust hull especially optimized for protection. New Russian “Super Battleship” variant available after 1936 and with displacement between 75,000 and 99,000 tons is an enlarged version of the new Russian battleship line and is a hull of very thick and robust construction. New Russian “Modern Battlecruiser” variant available after 1929 with displacement between 33,000 and 47,000 tons New Russian “Large Cruiser” variant available after 1929 with displacement between 28,000 and 39,000 tons. New Russian “Modern Light Cruiser” variant available after 1920 with displacement between 6,000 and 9,000 tons. New Russian Pre-Dreadnought “Battleship V” variant available between the years 1899 and 1906 with displacement between 14,000 and 19,000 tons. New Chinese Pre-Dreadnought “Battleship III” variant available between the years 1899 and 1906 with displacement between 13,500 and 16,500 tons. New Japanese Battleship hull variant which can more faithfully recreate the Yamato-class, due to its angled deck. NEW GUNS New special looking German guns available in middle-late technology levels spanning between Mark 3 and Mark 5 and covering calibers from 4-inch to 12-inch guns. New special looking Japanese guns covering the Mark-3 big guns from 9-inch to 16-inch caliber and the Mark-1 guns of 17-inch to 20-inch caliber. SHIP DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS/FIXES Torpedo Tubes are now having different models and size according to technology and torpedo dimensions: Previously there was only one Torpedo Tube model for all technology eras. Now you will notice different Torpedo Tube visuals in different technology years and as you switch the “Torpedo Size” component. All Ship components are now logically enabled: Previously there were various issues, such as Diesel engines working with coal fuel and boilers, or torpedo components increasing detonation chances and affecting weights in a ship that did not have any torpedoes. Now everything that is selected in the ship component list is affecting properly and fully the ship statistics. Diesel engines have been fully rebalanced to work with the new feature. Major improvement in Ship Design controls: Ship part selection is now more accurate and sharp. Previously the mouse cursor would highlight/select a very large area resulting in unwanted changes during ship design processes. Minimum Tonnage step reduced from 5 tons to 1 tons, so you can build ships with more precision. Various small fixes and improvements in many hulls. Many New towers and parts became available to various models. AI IMPROVEMENT The AI opponent has been significantly improved to be more aggressive and approach nearer to the player when it has the advantage. The AI will still keep safe distance according to estimations of firepower and danger zones. AI controlled ships in screen/scout/follow formation should now interact nearer to threats. AI ship evasion has been improved further. AI auto-design became more effective overall. NAVAL ACADEMY The following 4 missions are included in Naval Academy: The "Pocket Battleship": The defeat of the German Empire in World War I brought strict terms in her naval construction programs. The need of packing heavy firepower in smaller hulls resulted in the creation of an armored cruiser with very big guns for its size. The French were allowed by naval treaties to build much larger and heavier warships to match this threat. Your mission is to utilize your limited funds to construct an effective force of armored ships or “pocket battleships” as they are usually known and defeat a rival French battlecruiser which protects a convoy. Japanese Modernized Dreadnoughts: The Japanese Imperial Navy prolonged the active duty for almost all older dreadnoughts instead of scrapping them. On paper, those ships could be formidable opponents for the most modern battleships. Now you must design and build a force of such modernized dreadnoughts and defeat a much larger and extremely powerful US battleship. This battleship is escorted by a small flotilla of destroyers. Your more numerous fleet is also reinforced with a number of destroyers and cruisers so this fight might be in fact more favourable for our side… or maybe not? Russian fleet in dilemma: After the fall of the Russian Empire, the new regime had difficulties in raising a fleet powerful enough to correspond with the vast territories of the Russian nation. The Germans are seeking to meet you in the Baltic Sea with a strong fleet. Your current force in the area consists of one modernized dreadnought and a few old destroyers. Your restricted budget allows you to build either a handful of battleships or numerous smaller ships. Will you overwhelm the enemy with sheer numbers or will you just create one super battleship which can sink them one by one? Payback Time: China has emerged from her ashes and now is able to have a potent naval force, not as powerful as Japan’s but enough to be a considerable threat. A squadron of two Japanese battleships and a few escort ships cause tension by violating your waters. The government decided to risk a war against Japan with a surprise attack that would serve as revenge for the defeats of the past. The weather conditions are perfect for an ambush. You can barely match the firepower of the Japanese battleships with your own battleships, so it would be wiser to have more smaller ships to overwhelm them by your numbers. BUG FIXES Fixed bug that was caused when duplicating a ship design in Naval Academy. Fixed bug that could cause guns to become badly placed when mounting submerged torpedoes. Fixed bug that caused extreme delay to auto-design AI ships in mission “Pre-Dreadnought conflict”. This mission has also received new hulls available for design. Fixed bug that could cause funnels to be not allowed in some towers, as being traced wrongly in forward position off the tower. BALANCES Fire damage has been balanced to affect more significantly all ship types. In addition, the fire damage is added into statistics (you can now observe what is the sustained damage for friendly and enemy ships). This new statistic should help players to understand why their ship may have less structural integrity with less hits than the AI opponent, because now the received fire damage can be measured as well. OTHER All the game’s text has been reviewed/proofed for minor errors. Flash fire effect is more properly scaled (It could become too large for big ships, or too small for small ships). Obsolete Dreadnought hulls are no longer available in late techs (we have now many new hulls to replace them). ============================== Thank you for reading and your kind patience! The Game-Labs Team 12 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall99 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 @Cptbarney Yeeeey. The two pre-dread hulls are nice. Also the fast battleship hull seems nice. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbarney Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Marshall99 said: @Cptbarney Yeeeey. The two pre-dread hulls are nice. Also the fast battleship hull seems nice. Yis we got 3 old boags now (well i count the 1906 italian one as oldie). Also gud to hear an update to the upcoming patch too, nice too see torps will get more models plus hulls getting more models too to play with. cant wait for this and core alpha patch 1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o Barão Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 "New Italian “Modern Battleship II” variant with displacement between 60,500 and 70,500 tons available after 1929." So this is a bigger Littorio? Why not the Littorio class (44000tons) instead? But in general i like a lot what i am reading. +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbarney Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, o Barão said: "New Italian “Modern Battleship II” variant with displacement between 60,500 and 70,500 tons available after 1929." So this is a bigger Littorio? Why not the Littorio class (44000tons) instead? But in general i like a lot what i am reading. +1 I heard miss Littorio is coming at somepoint, too be fair i want her now too. But this might a tease for when she arrives onto the stage for core alpha patch 1 (I hope). Also we got 2 new old boags too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbarney Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 @Nick ThomadisHey nick, with the Japanese heavy cruiser 2 hull what ship could expect to make something similar to? Just had a large discussion surrounding her unusual description. Also is one of those russian BB's the soyuz or kremlin or equivalent at all? Just wondering as these look quite nice so far. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Thomadis Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Cptbarney said: @Nick ThomadisHey nick, with the Japanese heavy cruiser 2 hull what ship could expect to make something similar to? Just had a large discussion surrounding her unusual description. Also is one of those russian BB's the soyuz or kremlin or equivalent at all? Just wondering as these look quite nice so far. Many thanks! The Japanese cruiser can be a smaller variant of this speculative design https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_B-65_cruiser The Russian battleships, indeed can look similarly to the ships you mentioned but also other older with three guns forward arrangements. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbarney Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nick Thomadis said: The Japanese cruiser can be a smaller variant of this speculative design https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_B-65_cruiser The Russian battleships, indeed can look similarly to the ships you mentioned but also other older with three guns forward arrangements. Ahh i see, very interesting. Very nice, pleasantly surprised to see the russians are getting something, im guessing you are fleshing out modern ships for all or most nations first before working your way down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Thomadis Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 We will definitely add more ships for earlier techs, but these late modern ships for smaller nations were needed, in order to remove old looking dreadnoughts in their technology of the 1930,40s. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o Barão Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nick Thomadis said: We will definitely add more ships for earlier techs, but these late modern ships for smaller nations were needed, in order to remove old looking dreadnoughts in their technology of the 1930,40s. By the way. This "Japanese “Heavy Cruiser II" is to replicate Takao or Myoko class? Maybe Mogami? We are a little confused with the word "flat" in the description. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Thomadis Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, o Barão said: By the way. This "Japanese “Heavy Cruiser II" is to replicate Takao or Myoko class? Maybe Mogami? We are a little confused with the word "flat" in the description. They can look alike with a lot of imagination )) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbarney Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nick Thomadis said: They can look alike with a lot of imagination )) Oh one last question is miss fuso the ww2 config and will we be getting both fuso's usual pagoda and yamashiros pagoda as well? (Question from a discord im on lol). Also nice, too know we can make those regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werwaz Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Nick Thomadis said: Dear Admirals, We have news about the final and definite changelog regarding the upcoming Alpha-12 update which we announced here. From the moment we announced the patch we added even more new ships, new missions, more fixes and a new special feature for torpedoes, which now have different models and size according to technology and torpedo dimensions. We will not be able to add the ship weight offset improvements, as this feature needs more work. The patch will be offered next week. You can read its updated content below: *==============================* *ALPHA-12* *==============================* NEW HULLS & MODELS 22 new hulls offer countless different new designs. In particular, the new hulls are the following: New model that can recreate the German “Deutschland-class” cruisers such as the “Graf Spee”. In-game it can be used with the name “Advanced Armored Cruiser Ι” after year 1921, as a hull between 14,900 and 18,900 tons with special hull resistance characteristics making it especially durable even against battleships. New model that can recreate the Japanese battleship “Fuso” after its reconstruction. The new hull is available after the year 1924 with a displacement between 36,000 and 69,000 tons and code name “Modernized Dreadnought III”. New Japanese “Dreadnought IV” variant available between the years 1914 and 1927 and with displacement of 26,000 - 46,000 tons. New Italian “Dreadnought I” variant available between the years 1906 and 1918 and with displacement of 18,000 - 26,000 tons. New German “Advanced Armored Cruiser II” variant which is a speculative continuation of the Deutschland-class and can be found in years after 1927. Its displacement is between 17,900 and 22,900 tons. New Japanese “Heavy Cruiser II” variant with a displacement of 13,400-15,600 tons that can be found after the year 1922. It has a flat light hull and a selection of towers that can make it good at firing from long distances. New Japanese “Experimental Heavy Cruiser” variant with a displacement of 15,900-22,100 tons that can replicate ships similar to the Japanese “Tone-class” and can host a large amount of torpedo tubes. It is available after the year 1934. New “Fast Battleship” variant a special Battlecruiser hull available for Russia, Spain, Italy, Austro-Hungary, China after the year 1935. It has a displacement between 45,000 and 75,000 tons and can be a good compromise between firepower and protection. New Austro-Hungarian ”Modern Battleship” variant with displacement between 51,000 and 81,000 tons available after the year 1929. New Chinese “Experimental Battleship” variant available after 1929. It is a hull of 42,500 - 55,000 tons which can offer unusual battleship designs with all-forward gun mounts. New Chinese “Modern Battleship I” variant available after 1936 and with displacement between 50,500 and 60,500 tons. New Spanish “Modern Battleship II” variant with displacement between 61,500 and 71,500 tons available after 1929. New Italian “Modern Battleship II” variant with displacement between 60,500 and 70,500 tons available after 1929. New Japanese “Experimental Battleship” variant available after 1929 with displacement between 47,000 and 72,000 tons. This hull can produce designs resembling early unofficial Japanese battleship designs that had all the main guns forward. New Russian “Modern Battleship II” variant which is available after 1936 and has displacement between 65,000 and 79,000 tons, offers a very robust hull especially optimized for protection. New Russian “Super Battleship” variant available after 1936 and with displacement between 75,000 and 99,000 tons is an enlarged version of the new Russian battleship line and is a hull of very thick and robust construction. New Russian “Modern Battlecruiser” variant available after 1929 with displacement between 33,000 and 47,000 tons New Russian “Large Cruiser” variant available after 1929 with displacement between 28,000 and 39,000 tons. New Russian “Modern Light Cruiser” variant available after 1920 with displacement between 6,000 and 9,000 tons. New Russian Pre-Dreadnought “Battleship V” variant available between the years 1899 and 1906 with displacement between 14,000 and 19,000 tons. New Chinese Pre-Dreadnought “Battleship III” variant available between the years 1899 and 1906 with displacement between 13,500 and 16,500 tons. New Japanese Battleship hull variant which can more faithfully recreate the Yamato-class, due to its angled deck. NEW GUNS New special looking German guns available in middle-late technology levels spanning between Mark 3 and Mark 5 and covering calibers from 4-inch to 12-inch guns. New special looking Japanese guns covering the Mark-3 big guns from 9-inch to 16-inch caliber and the Mark-1 guns of 17-inch to 20-inch caliber. SHIP DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS/FIXES Torpedo Tubes are now having different models and size according to technology and torpedo dimensions: Previously there was only one Torpedo Tube model for all technology eras. Now you will notice different Torpedo Tube visuals in different technology years and as you switch the “Torpedo Size” component. All Ship components are now logically enabled: Previously there were various issues, such as Diesel engines working with coal fuel and boilers, or torpedo components increasing detonation chances and affecting weights in a ship that did not have any torpedoes. Now everything that is selected in the ship component list is affecting properly and fully the ship statistics. Diesel engines have been fully rebalanced to work with the new feature. Major improvement in Ship Design controls: Ship part selection is now more accurate and sharp. Previously the mouse cursor would highlight/select a very large area resulting in unwanted changes during ship design processes. Minimum Tonnage step reduced from 5 tons to 1 tons, so you can build ships with more precision. Various small fixes and improvements in many hulls. Many New towers and parts became available to various models. AI IMPROVEMENT The AI opponent has been significantly improved to be more aggressive and approach nearer to the player when it has the advantage. The AI will still keep safe distance according to estimations of firepower and danger zones. AI controlled ships in screen/scout/follow formation should now interact nearer to threats. AI ship evasion has been improved further. AI auto-design became more effective overall. NAVAL ACADEMY The following 4 missions are included in Naval Academy: The "Pocket Battleship": The defeat of the German Empire in World War I brought strict terms in her naval construction programs. The need of packing heavy firepower in smaller hulls resulted in the creation of an armored cruiser with very big guns for its size. The French were allowed by naval treaties to build much larger and heavier warships to match this threat. Your mission is to utilize your limited funds to construct an effective force of armored ships or “pocket battleships” as they are usually known and defeat a rival French battlecruiser which protects a convoy. Japanese Modernized Dreadnoughts: The Japanese Imperial Navy prolonged the active duty for almost all older dreadnoughts instead of scrapping them. On paper, those ships could be formidable opponents for the most modern battleships. Now you must design and build a force of such modernized dreadnoughts and defeat a much larger and extremely powerful US battleship. This battleship is escorted by a small flotilla of destroyers. Your more numerous fleet is also reinforced with a number of destroyers and cruisers so this fight might be in fact more favourable for our side… or maybe not? Russian fleet in dilemma: After the fall of the Russian Empire, the new regime had difficulties in raising a fleet powerful enough to correspond with the vast territories of the Russian nation. The Germans are seeking to meet you in the Baltic Sea with a strong fleet. Your current force in the area consists of one modernized dreadnought and a few old destroyers. Your restricted budget allows you to build either a handful of battleships or numerous smaller ships. Will you overwhelm the enemy with sheer numbers or will you just create one super battleship which can sink them one by one? Payback Time: China has emerged from her ashes and now is able to have a potent naval force, not as powerful as Japan’s but enough to be a considerable threat. A squadron of two Japanese battleships and a few escort ships cause tension by violating your waters. The government decided to risk a war against Japan with a surprise attack that would serve as revenge for the defeats of the past. The weather conditions are perfect for an ambush. You can barely match the firepower of the Japanese battleships with your own battleships, so it would be wiser to have more smaller ships to overwhelm them by your numbers. BUG FIXES Fixed bug that was caused when duplicating a ship design in Naval Academy. Fixed bug that could cause guns to become badly placed when mounting submerged torpedoes. Fixed bug that caused extreme delay to auto-design AI ships in mission “Pre-Dreadnought conflict”. This mission has also received new hulls available for design. Fixed bug that could cause funnels to be not allowed in some towers, as being traced wrongly in forward position off the tower. BALANCES Fire damage has been balanced to affect more significantly all ship types. In addition, the fire damage is added into statistics (you can now observe what is the sustained damage for friendly and enemy ships). This new statistic should help players to understand why their ship may have less structural integrity with less hits than the AI opponent, because now the received fire damage can be measured as well. OTHER All the game’s text has been reviewed/proofed for minor errors. Flash fire effect is more properly scaled (It could become too large for big ships, or too small for small ships). Obsolete Dreadnought hulls are no longer available in late techs (we have now many new hulls to replace them). ============================== Thank you for reading and your kind patience! The Game-Labs Team This sounds good to me, since my favorite builds besides SHBBs (everyone likes building SHBBs) are the modernized dreadnoughts and pocket battleships. I think the only things missing in terms of ship hulls and parts are a US modernized dreadnought i.e. New Mexicos, Tennessees, or Colorados after 1930s refits and the rear tower from BB-67 USS Montana. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1MajorKoenig Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Nice! Most definitely looking forward to try this out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbarney Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, werwaz said: This sounds good to me, since my favorite builds besides SHBBs (everyone likes building SHBBs) are the modernized dreadnoughts and pocket battleships. I think the only things missing in terms of ship hulls and parts are a US modernized dreadnought i.e. New Mexicos, Tennessees, or Colorados after 1930s refits and the rear tower from BB-67 USS Montana. we also need the modern USA cruisers, im not about the state of other nations but if they are lacking light cruisers and heavies both new and old they should get them as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPANISH_AVENGER Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Looking forward to this! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutsu Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Very good to hear about it I can get back to UA: Dreadnoughts after I'm stumbling through Rule the Waves 2 at the moment xD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tousansons Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I'll keep my thoughts for the real patch announcement this time. Nice to see some progress, even if it feel glacially slow these past months. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnAvont1015 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Cptbarney said: kremlin Kremlin....did you just say KERMLIN! Cptbarney why do you keep giving me ideas. Also this is real cancer right here........I'm gonna build Slava. Edited May 21, 2021 by CapnAvont1015 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluishdoor76 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Nick Thomadis said: The Japanese cruiser can be a smaller variant of this speculative design https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_B-65_cruiser The Russian battleships, indeed can look similarly to the ships you mentioned but also other older with three guns forward arrangements. I'm guessing the proper parts for the Russians, Italians, and Hungarians will come much later, for now they'll still use the current generic parts right? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RxmRolla Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) Will these new hulls also be coming with new superstructures? Or will they stay using the pre existing ones? Edited May 21, 2021 by RxmRolla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o Barão Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, RxmRolla said: Will these new hulls also be coming with new superstructures? Or will they stay using the pre existing ones? "Many New towers and parts became available to various models. " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdodders Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 More stuff is always nice. Can the UK get a 100kt+ Super Battleship hull please? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schirüno Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 10:37 PM, werwaz said: This sounds good to me, since my favorite builds besides SHBBs (everyone likes building SHBBs) are the modernized dreadnoughts and pocket battleships. I think the only things missing in terms of ship hulls and parts are a US modernized dreadnought i.e. New Mexicos, Tennessees, or Colorados after 1930s refits and the rear tower from BB-67 USS Montana. USS Montana would’ve used a slightly different tower, not just the rear tower because the 5 inch 54 caliber gun mounts would’ve been wider than the previous 5 inch 38 caliber mounts and they would’ve been mounted in different positions, some on the deck and some on superimposed positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Orleans Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 This sounds really interesting! Looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts