Dont Worry abut the DLC-Ships...

[van der Clam]

13 minutes ago, Gregory Rainsborough said:

I imagine that cow is worth a lot of cash.

Probably worth a lot of DLCs.

[Suricato Rojo]

I know. @HachiRoku
But at least its not the Requin or Hercules case.. where you were actually buying killer ships.
This 4th rate has less dps than many 5ths rates. Its slow and dosent turn very well.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Suricato Rojo

[Gregory Rainsborough]

Just now, Suricato Rojo said:

I know.
But at least its not the Requin or Hercules case.. where you were actually buying killer ships.
This 4th rate has less dps than many 5ths rates. Its slow and dosent turn very well.

Then why buy it...?

[HachiRoku]

Just now, Suricato Rojo said:

I know.
But at least its not the Requin or Hercules case.. where you were actually buying killer ships.
This 4th rate has less dps than many 5ths rates. Its slow and dosent turn very well.

its exactly the same in my view. I mean requin was op yes but I never even bothered to make a case against stats. 

[Gregory Rainsborough]

13 minutes ago, HachiRoku said:

ha... you have no idea how to milk a cow.

 

Speaking of milking cows, where's Bifttee? We could use some cool headed analysis.

[HachiRoku]

That comment was overboard sir.  Warning issued. - H. Darby

Edited April 5, 2019 by Henry d'Esterre Darby

[Socialism]

1 hour ago, HachiRoku said:

Going on a personal crusade like BP is not a solution though. Not matter how much I hate ROE and DLC ships I do want the game to be a success more than anything for my own selfish benefit to be fair. In order for the game to be successful players must accept the idea of dlc ship of the lines. Anyway the damage is done and the ships are on steam. The more DLC ships released the worse it will get. I am so glad I don't have to live with the fact that I did support the DLC. Remember that the next time you and your crusaders give the game a negative review that you encouraged the devs to do what they did. 

https://prnt.sc/n80toc

EDIT!!! I made a huge mistake with typo

How do negative reviews = DLCs?  Just curious.  I came across Otto’s neg review last night.  He directly is responsible for the Hermione DLC I guess.

One would naturally assume that negative reviews would encourage a company to work on a better product.  

[HachiRoku]

18 minutes ago, Socialism said:

How do negative reviews = DLCs?  Just curious.  I came across Otto’s neg review last night.  He directly is responsible for the Hermione DLC I guess.

One would naturally assume that negative reviews would encourage a company to work on a better product.  

No you bought the first 2 dlcs. Otto did not. Btw otto has no idea about shit. Just cause he is my friend and clanmate doesn't mean I agree with anything he says.

[Eric Cortana]

NA 2020.

 

[Wilhelm von Seydlitz]

Now do not be so negative,

I bought the ship too and I think it's ok I like the ship (the Requin not that's why I did not buy it 🙂 ),
 but I will still build other ships in the game. I'm a PVP Noob and I'm doing such a DLC ship well,

I'm sunk ... shithappens .. and the PVP gods still gets your marks.

[_Alucard_]

34 euros this DLC????

You must be kidding me.

I'll keep playing other games.

[van Veen]

Another aspect was not yet mentioned. DLC ships cannot be captured which means that privateering is dead when there are too many DLC ships. 

The solution would have been so simple, as proposed by so many people, just sell a limited number of permits per DLC. This even would have generated a more constant cash income for GL without the negative impact on the in-game economy. 

[GhastlyGhost]

Good that i don`t back to game after the wipe.

All of you who bought this ships helped to kill this game.

Edited April 5, 2019 by GhastlyGhost

[Sir Texas Sir]

1 hour ago, Velhelm Von Marrius said:

I wouldn't mind dlc ships as long as we are getting a steady flow of free craftable ships. A 5:1 to 10:1 ratio of craftable to dlc.

DLC and note ships should only be 3/5 with chance of perk.  All other quality ships should only be through actually crafting them.  All DLC ships should be craftable even if you have to do a special missions to get the BP.  So that way there is no ship that is OP that you can't just craft and get a better quality.  The conveinet of DLC is instant ship, not promised to be instant GOLD ship after all so folks should be fine with a 3/5 ship with perk.  This will give crafting more meaning if you can afford it over just using DLC's.

[p i t]

I had a forum discussion about this, admin said that crafted ships have a higher probability of being 5/5s and that seems sufficient for him, don’t know if the crafters felt that way

 

Edited April 5, 2019 by pit

[Tiedemann]

I get the price for the DLC if the idea is to keep supporting the development of the game by buying ship DLC's. The Le Requin is imo a more expensive DLC than this new 4. rate DLC, and I have nothing against the price of the L'Hermoinee.  

[HachiRoku]

7 hours ago, Tiedemann said:

I get the price for the DLC if the idea is to keep supporting the development of the game by buying ship DLC's. The Le Requin is imo a more expensive DLC than this new 4. rate DLC, and I have nothing against the price of the L'Hermoinee.  

Why should we pay so much money to support development of items that break fundamental game mechanics? The ship is not good from what I hear anyway. To bad about that because with a proper dlc model they wouldn't need to nerf stats of dlc ships. 

[Georg Fromm]

11 hours ago, _Alucard_ said:

34 euros this DLC????

You must be kidding me.

I'll keep playing other games.

Do I understand that correctly, you are only angry because the ship is not enough op?
I would not like to imagine the reactions here, if this ship was also the absolute best ship in its class

Edited April 6, 2019 by Georg Fromm

[Lovec1990]

23 minutes ago, Georg Fromm said:

Do I understand that correctly, you are only angry because the ship is not enough op?
I would not like to imagine the reactions here, if this ship was also the absolute best ship in its class

i like rat just need alittle speed and agility boost

[HachiRoku]

3 hours ago, Georg Fromm said:

Do I understand that correctly, you are only angry because the ship is not enough op?
I would not like to imagine the reactions here, if this ship was also the absolute best ship in its class

Yeah dron also said he wouldn't buy because of the stats. Most people do not care a bit about the overall effect it has on the game. If the ship is made craftable I will buy it for 3 people as a gift. You're not one of them because you're well off

[Teutonic]

2 hours ago, HachiRoku said:

Yeah dron also said he wouldn't buy because of the stats. Most people do not care a bit about the overall effect it has on the game. If the ship is made craftable I will buy it for 3 people as a gift. You're not one of them because you're well off

Then dron and others like him admit that they only buy them to get an advantage over others. A pay 2 win advantage is absolutely ridiculous.

Contrary to the higher price - the hermione and ratt are probably the most balanced ships.

[_Alucard_]

7 hours ago, Georg Fromm said:

Do I understand that correctly, you are only angry because the ship is not enough op?
I would not like to imagine the reactions here, if this ship was also the absolute best ship in its class

Can you read again what I said? Did I say anything about the ship being good or bad? No.

I said that I am not buying another DLC which is almost more expensive than the whole game itself.

It doesn't matter if the ships are good or not, I am not paying that much.

I think the devs are going in the wrong way releasing a lot of DLCs before they release the game. They are milking the few players that still play the game so I decide I am not contributing to that and will keep my money in my pocket

[HachiRoku]

3 hours ago, Intrepido said:

Why do you think they like to sail purple-gold ships with some very specific trims and equipped with poods and elite upgrades?

They are looking for the things that gives them a good advantage over others.

Dron is a really good player. Imo one of the stubborn players to fight. I really love fighting him. Without mods he is good so they only give him a small advantage. Btw you saw what he did to my naval clock trinco. All those meta mods did not save him from a stupid mistake. 

 

3 hours ago, Teutonic said:

Then dron and others like him admit that they only buy them to get an advantage over others. A pay 2 win advantage is absolutely ridiculous.

Contrary to the higher price - the hermione and ratt are probably the most balanced ships.

In terms of stats I would not care if the rat was actually buffed. Don't get me wrong. I just think inside the combat instance and the economy are 2 different problems. It's only P2W because of economy. If dlc ships are buffed beyond their real life counterparts then it's P2W in instance too. The problem the devs have created now is that as soon as any dlc is balanced in the combat instance it becomes op in terms of eco. This is a real bad issue. The current dlc model forces all dlc to be nerfed by design because they don't require crafting. Too bad

Edited April 6, 2019 by HachiRoku

[HachiRoku]

2 hours ago, _Alucard_ said:

Can you read again what I said? Did I say anything about the ship being good or bad? No.

I said that I am not buying another DLC which is almost more expensive than the whole game itself.

It doesn't matter if the ships are good or not, I am not paying that much.

I think the devs are going in the wrong way releasing a lot of DLCs before they release the game. They are milking the few players that still play the game so I decide I am not contributing to that and will keep my money in my pocket

Would you buy the rat for 10 euro? 

[HachiRoku]

12 minutes ago, Koveras said:

One could make the DLC ships net 0 reals when sold. It won't change the fact that one player hauls a shitloads of rs to craft a ship or make reals to buy mats whilst another can simply redeem the ship, but atm you can (if you have all 5 DLC ships) get about 20k-25k reals, which doesn't sound like a lot but it just aggravates the issue. As far as I'm concerned econ is a dead horse anyway so let's just go all in on the DLC ships.

Or not. Maybe you can persuade the devs not to give up on the eco.