LeBoiteux Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I like USS Rattlesnake very much !!! A way to make players sail small ships more often is indeed to implement more such Corvettes/sloops-of-war. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMatt Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I like USS Rattlesnake very much !!! A way to make players sail small ships more often is indeed to implement more such Corvettes/sloops-of-war. Aye, I hope we see more sloops of war in the future. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slackline Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 The end of the outpost TP cool-down is very convenient but I've got a bad, bad feeling about it Are we going to see massive port flipping, incessant calls to defend or attack ports and increased player burn-out? The 4 hour cool-down also let players cool down No the end of TP cool-down is probably the best change, or one of. Still have to meet timer requirements; still have to buy flag; still have to move to port and plant flag. Will there be increase in PBs...yes and that is a good thing. However massive port flipping imo will not occur anymore than it is already occuring...it is happening now just ask the USA on PVP-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Blackthorne Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) OK, here is indeed video proof of cannon shot from a connie passing thru the hull of a connie. Anything above the waterline went right thru. Anything at or below waterline bounced. I believe this is bad ship modeling and not completely a damage model failure. (or maybe a cannonball model failure). Also note that this seems to happen only in same and higher rate enemy. It has never yet happened to me when firing at lower rate ships. i have no idea how to embed the video in my comments Setup info: My ship: Basic Constitution Cannon: All longs at highest rate allowed Built-in Upgrades: Fir, Speed Permanent Upgrades: None Installed Upgrades: Powder Monkeys Enemy ship: no clue Battle: 169xp Flag Cpt Fleet Mission (btw, this BR was way unbalanced, as seen in image below) Edited May 23, 2016 by Henry d'Esterre Darby Fixed the video for you. Just use the normal link to the video. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcrankyman Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 According to the patch notes: "Defense timers cannot be changed by defenders after they were picked the first time. Choose them wisely." We attacked and captured Biloxi this morning, and I was unable to change the timer. I logged out of the game and relogged and tried again and am still unable to reset the timer. Is this the intent of the new rule and I'm just reading it wrong, or is this a bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Blackthorne Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 According to the patch notes: "Defense timers cannot be changed by defenders after they were picked the first time. Choose them wisely." We attacked and captured Biloxi this morning, and I was unable to change the timer. I logged out of the game and relogged and tried again and am still unable to reset the timer. Is this the intent of the new rule and I'm just reading it wrong, or is this a bug? Seems as though it held on to all port times set before the patch and made it locked. From my understanding, it should have allowed one reset for any port captured after the patch. Perhaps they should go back to pre-patch and let us set them on each capture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenecro Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 OK, here is indeed video proof of cannon shot from a connie passing thru the hull of a connie. Anything above the waterline went right thru. Anything at or below waterline bounced. I believe this is bad ship modeling and not completely a damage model failure. (or maybe a cannonball model failure). Also note that this seems to happen only in same and higher rate enemy. It has never yet happened to me when firing at lower rate ships. https://www.youtube.com/embed/KyuhrjoFTKU i have no idea how to embed the video in my comments Setup info: My ship: Basic Constitution Cannon: All longs at highest rate allowed Built-in Upgrades: Fir, Speed Permanent Upgrades: None Installed Upgrades: Powder Monkeys Enemy ship: no clue Battle: 169xp Flag Cpt Fleet Mission (btw, this BR was way unbalanced, as seen in image below) Same thing here impossible to penetrate an ingermaanland i just see my canonballs going through the ship and make a water splash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsubbed Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) OK, here is indeed video proof of cannon shot from a connie passing thru the hull of a connie. Anything above the waterline went right thru. Anything at or below waterline bounced. I believe this is bad ship modeling and not completely a damage model failure. (or maybe a cannonball model failure). Also note that this seems to happen only in same and higher rate enemy. It has never yet happened to me when firing at lower rate ships. https://www.youtube.com/embed/KyuhrjoFTKU i have no idea how to embed the video in my comments Setup info: My ship: Basic Constitution Cannon: All longs at highest rate allowed Built-in Upgrades: Fir, Speed Permanent Upgrades: None Installed Upgrades: Powder Monkeys Enemy ship: no clue Battle: 169xp Flag Cpt Fleet Mission (btw, this BR was way unbalanced, as seen in image below) Thank you for uploading this... It is exactly what needs to be seen so that hopefully we will get clarification if this is due to a bad hit box/damage model or rather graphics rendering issue. I hope it is the former but I'm sure we will find out soon enough. I know I watched this video posted by 'Jeheil.' In it, @ 6:15 in video, he is seeing shots hit the water in front of the Victory and his buddy, who is in the Victory is seeing them land on top of his ship... Eventually, they both see the same thing. It begs the question, what is going on? Jeheil's video: 6:15 to see conflicting vision. Edited May 21, 2016 by F4ppinFr3nzy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 7 ships from renomme to constitions vs. 1 Ingermanland. First we shoot masts 30 - 40 minutes..no mast was broken. dont shoot masts - use chain or shoot masts from very close distance previously people were playing happy click click mast heroes from 1km from any vessel forget that tactic existed - we don't want it in game 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quineloe Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) Masts seem a lot harder to destroy even at close range now It seems the thickness prevents many hits on masts to deal damage to the mast. Didn't you say a few weeks ago in Plakrocks stream you wanted to see more mast destruction? Edited May 21, 2016 by Quineloe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Cloudsley-Shovell Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I like the ideas behind the new damage model,but its gone a bit bonkers,TBH it was a lot better prepatch.I do hope the Devs attend to this rapidly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Doran Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 OK, here is indeed video proof of cannon shot from a connie passing thru the hull of a connie. Anything above the waterline went right thru. Anything at or below waterline bounced. I believe this is bad ship modeling and not completely a damage model failure. (or maybe a cannonball model failure). Also note that this seems to happen only in same and higher rate enemy. It has never yet happened to me when firing at lower rate ships. Have you tried seeing the effect from the point of view of being shot at? Because initially that is what it looked like to me too until we realized the shot was just bouncing off the hull and not making a massive splash in the water like they usually do on deflected rounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 Masts seem a lot harder to destroy even at close range now It seems the thickness prevents many hits on masts to deal damage to the mast. Didn't you say a few weeks ago in Plakrocks stream you wanted to see more mast destruction? no penetration no damage partial penetration = partial damage we said we are going to fix long range mast shooting meaning that it will be impossible to demast from 1km like in real life we always deliver on our promises 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jomppeli Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) No more crafting in enemy ports? In smuggler-mode, I can't collect my materials from buildings at enemy ports anymore. Edited May 21, 2016 by Jomppeli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 Lol bold statement I hope this doesn't come back and haunt you there are ppl in this forum that will never forget you said that and will be searching this forum for other 'promises you made' ROFLMAO we are very careful with what we promise demasting at lower mast sections from 1km = hard promise = won't happen ever again higher sections are possible still - people just don't shoot at them for some reason.\ Btw how is your comment is contributing to the patch discussion? it looks very off topic to me 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muminukas Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Any comments about the stern graping fails? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterner Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Any comments about the stern graping fails? It is known issue and will be fixed in next hotfix. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muminukas Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Do you have any plans about the apparent futility of attacking bigger ships with smaller ships? Or is this intended and satisfactory? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfimp Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 If they fix grape then small ships will be fine... except for when their weather deck gets graped, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muminukas Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 The penetration feels like it should be at least a little easier. Now battles are tedious and long, and almost impossible to sink bigger ships than you are. Hard is good, but maybe not God mode 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quineloe Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 no penetration no damage partial penetration = partial damage we said we are going to fix long range mast shooting meaning that it will be impossible to demast from 1km like in real life we always deliver on our promises I get that, and it's good, but it feels like shots are bouncing off masts even at very close range - I need more hits to take down masts now in controlled environments, i.e. trader brigs side by side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 no penetration no damage partial penetration = partial damage we said we are going to fix long range mast shooting meaning that it will be impossible to demast from 1km like in real life we always deliver on our promises yesterday i tried long range de-mast, took me 1 hour to demast a consti in a inger. Today, same setup, but at stern rake distance: 4~ 5 broadsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptVonGunn Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 no penetration no damage partial penetration = partial damage we said we are going to fix long range mast shooting meaning that it will be impossible to demast from 1km like in real life we always deliver on our promises Except that now it is nearly impossible to Dismast a ship at 50 yards to.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxi Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Ports will stop buying resources if NPC stock exceeds 25000 - further changes to economy will be done in the next patch We do understand this kind of change. But as you konw some port have a stock of far over 100 000 because they where the only way to get money for sure, by selling iron for 222 gold [Victoria] or Compass wood at 1500 gold. By your patch, you killed this "easy" trading? But: Does the 132146 in stock at one port go down in number on its own? Or is this now permanent, untill one "stupid" player buy´s compass wood at 3000 a piece to bring the stock down to under 25000, so we can sell compass wood there again? No info on that available in patch note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Spyglass in OW is cool. But you still can't see a town's name from the distance. You still have to sail too close to the shore in order to read the town's name. Edited May 22, 2016 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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