Admiral 8Q Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I voted 'Flotilla', but 'Armada' or 'Guild' would work too.Honestly, after I think about it, 'Guild' or 'Company would make more sense.I see the majority voted 'Fleet'.If it is changed to 'Fleet', then any in-game mentions of 'Fleet' would have to be changed. Otherwise more confusion.People don't seem to understand that a fleet is a group of ships. A fleet needs harbours, trade guilds for supplies, manufacturing companies, etc.Fleet is fine if you're only a group of ships and nothing else.Just my thoughts.Let me know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpjchris Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Can any developer weigh in on this? My crew is getting tired of having to refer to our budding fleet as a "clan"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worst2first Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I like the suggestion to change it from clan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesreidau Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Write-in. Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Tabernac Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I really don't mind it being a "clan". In any pursuit of immersion and realism one needs to remember - that this is an MMO, and you will end up seeing frigates parked on top of a nearby church. Not to mention people will talk, laugh, joke and have fun. Not in the immersion-correct manner. Stop ruining my immersion, Galileus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkompetent Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Company, Society, or Guild. A "fleet" feels like a purely military organization (I know there can be trade fleets too, just saying what associations the stand-alone word "fleet" gives) which wouldn't even get to decide its own purpose or orders since they'd be a puppet/tool of the admiralty. Quite unsuitable for players that make their own fate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaWolf Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Company does sound pretty neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Marell Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) I'm a fan of fleet myself, and band for pirates. AKA the Crimson Pirate Band, the SIN Pirate Band. Edited February 19, 2016 by Captain Marell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchpower Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Guild means Gilde in dutch. Thats historical correct for us not sure about other country's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion74 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Who ever thunk up FLEET was pretty clever. A glass with you, Sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfimp Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) We have no preference to this and will change it if the community decides they do not like the word clan My personal opinion: Clan is completely unthematic and, as an American, has always had very uncomfortable connotations to our very unfortunate history of racial discrimination and a specific group of terrorists who attempted to enforce racial prejudice through violence and coercion. So, anything but clan would be better, especially something that was actually naval. I voted for Fleet. Edited February 22, 2016 by surfimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptEdwardKenway Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Beeing a MMO game it should be guild but for the atmosphere it should be fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weissenwulf Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) I agree that Clan is not appropriate. I went with Fleet, as that's the most inclusive of traders, explorers, combat ships, etc. It always annoyed me that World of Warships called groups of ships "Platoons". How tacky, unimaginative, and incorrect. Edited February 23, 2016 by weissenwulf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[MCC] Die Antwoord Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I disagree with the most popular option, namely "Fleet" because that term has already a clear signification in game, namely either those 2 little fleet members you can hire or used as a term to describe a group of ships, be it a bunch of players or an NPC fleet composed of several ships. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkompetent Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) I disagree with the most popular option, namely "Fleet" because that term has already a clear signification in game, namely either those 2 little fleet members you can hire or used as a term to describe a group of ships, be it a bunch of players or an NPC fleet composed of several ships. Very much this. It will simply cause confusion to use the same term for yet another thing, and would be a terrible decision from a design and accessibility point of view. Unfortunately the votes in this thread feel like a typical case of "Don't listen to the voters because they don't know what's best for them." Edited February 23, 2016 by Inkompetent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfimp Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) Very much this. It will simply cause confusion to use the same term for yet another thing, and would be a terrible decision from a design and accessibility point of view. Unfortunately the votes in this thread feel like a typical case of "Don't listen to the voters because they don't know what's best for them." It would be easy to re-name the current ad hoc groups of NPC or player ships that you refer to as "Squadrons", which would be much more historically accurate for a group of 2-8 ships than the current usage of Fleet. Then the word "Fleet" could - quite appropriately - replace the word "clan" to refer to the much larger groups of players who don't always "squadron up" but are part of the same permanent group and nation. Done and done. The game is still in EA and I don't think any of the current player base would need more than a week to adjust, and probably less. Edited February 23, 2016 by surfimp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkompetent Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) It would be easy to re-name the current ad hoc groups of NPC or player ships that you refer to as "Squadrons", which would be much more historically accurate for a group of 2-8 ships than the current usage of Fleet. Then the word "Fleet" could - quite appropriately - replace the word "clan" to refer to the much larger groups of players who don't always "squadron up" but are part of the same permanent group and nation. Done and done. The game is still in EA and I don't think any of the current player base would need more than a week to adjust, and probably less. I agree that the concept of "fleet" for the AI ships one can bring can easily be changed. But it doesn't change the fact that the whole concept of the word "fleet" will be tricky to use for clans. Take for example "What fleet are you in?" when someone is in one of several groupings of ships about to take part in a series of port battles. Does the person asking the question ask about what clan the person is in, or does he ask about what group of ships he's with? Since it would be very, very easy to avoid such confusion by naming clans something else than words that already have other meanings in a naval game, that would be the smart way to do it, rather than forcing people to start using some other word (and the wrong word) to describe a large group of warships. Edited February 23, 2016 by Inkompetent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weissenwulf Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 It's all semantic, ultimately, as there are numerous different and equally appropriate names for large and small groups of ships across the naval traditions of the countries involved. So long as we all agree that a term used for describing a hierarchical structure of interrelated families is inappropriate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigge1988 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Fleet would kind of interfere with the way atleast we ( sweden ) use the word "fleet" atm. For example we currently may say "Is there any fleet hunting going?". I agree that "clan" sounds "wrong". Clan is more suitable for first person shooters than anything else. That's why I chose to go with the word "guild". It makes me feel more like a gang recruiting people over at the tavern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonMG Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 We have no preference to this and will change it if the community decides they do not like the word clan Any chance we'll be seeing "clan" change to "fleet" (clear winner of the poll), or any on the more appropriately fitting terms other than clan, in one of the future updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcomies Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 How about "Company"? It would also be nice if there was a couple options to choose from so the name of the clan could reflect it's focus: a clan concentrated on trading and production could call itself a "Guild" and a clan with mainly military interests could call itself "Squadron" etc. I think "clan" is a pretty silly term which doesn't really fit the setting and would definitely like to see that changed to pretty much anything else 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cragger Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Company 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lytse Pier Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) The Dutch had five Admiralties (De Maze, Amsterdam, Friesland, Zeeland and Noorderkwartier) in their little country. We are already a bit in "fantasy modus" with a supposedly one admiralty per nation where we should sent ships to. So I really don't think the names are too important and for all I care we make them all their own admiralty. Edited April 13, 2016 by Lytse Pier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Beard Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Being from Scotland, clan suits me fine. All me sailors wear kilts anyhoo Fearsome buggas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayon Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Co. or Fleet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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