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'Eendracht' 1790 Dutch Ship (With Plans)

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It may be dutch (or something) instead of french. See the flag, the ship name and the written langage... Not french at all.

What makes you think it is ?

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It looks like a trader shes really fat especially on bow side but then again it looks like she was well armed also a 38 guns or more so for a trader it is impresive armament for sure.

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Its the Eendracht of 1769, a 24 gun frigate. The small ports on the gundeck are for oars, pretty much every dutch 5th or 6th rate had those.

 

length : 124'

breadth: 34' 0"

 

Wrecked in 1786.

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Its the Eendracht of 1769, a 24 gun frigate. The small ports on the gundeck are for oars, pretty much every dutch 5th or 6th rate had those.

 

length : 124'

breadth: 34' 0"

 

Wrecked in 1786.

it also says "ship of war" on the drawings, so i think it isnt excactly a merchant ship either.

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Bart, I know this is off-topic, but what ship is that in your signature? Is that one of the earlier versions of the Bellona, or is that a ship that isn't in Naval Action (yet)? 

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Bart, I know this is off-topic, but what ship is that in your signature? Is that one of the earlier versions of the Bellona, or is that a ship that isn't in Naval Action (yet)? 

Possible. Or new Bellona...dunno tbh...just found this on web.

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Possible. Or new Bellona...dunno tbh...just found this on web.

It's just weird, because whatever it is looks as big as a bloody Victory, and yet it's a two-decker. Sure, the model looks like it's from Naval Action, but I can't tell if that's the Bellona or not...

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I'm not sure this is a warship because there lid port to load the goods on the middle and front of the ship and also because of the lids to air the deck. There is also a window. Generally, we see this device on cargo ships.. Not it on warships.

 

It is a nice ship.
:)

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This particular ship, because there were more ships called with the same name, is a ship of war. It says so at the top of the drawing:

 

"Teeke  ning

vanslands, ship van oorlogh

De Eendragt,

getekent door _

Jan Sweeres,1790

[..]"

 

"Draw   ing

of country's ship of war

The Concord

drawn by _

Jan Sweeres, 1790".

 

It's a drawing made of the ship after it was built. On the bottom left it tells you it was built in 1769-1770:

 

"D. Eendragt
Voerende 24 stukke
canon 8 ponders.
[...]
Gebout.binne Harlinge
in den jaaren
1769   1770

 

"The Concord

Sailing 24 pieces

cannon 8 pounders

[some measurements]

Built in Harlinge

in the years

1769 - 1770"

 

Alternative source: Fries Scheepvaartmuseum

Edited by Wicked Mouse

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It's just weird, because whatever it is looks as big as a bloody Victory, and yet it's a two-decker. Sure, the model looks like it's from Naval Action, but I can't tell if that's the Bellona or not...

early bellona she had an difrent stern back then

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Thanks. :)

 

I'd never seen a video of the old Bellona before. 

 

EDIT: By the way, how come the gun sounds heard in this video weren't kept? They sound really good.

Edited by Arvenski

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idk maybe not enough boom.

there are more small vids including cherubin and surprise i kinda miss all the flags and signals

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They seem to me like they've got a lot more boom than the gun sounds we have in-game now. :P

 

The only thing that occurred to me was that they might not be as historical, but I watched this, and that didn't sound too different from those old sounds...  

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The one downside of ship plans embedded with a graphical overlay like the plan above is that is becomes difficult to ascertain the exact curve of a ship.

I stumbled across this high-res ship plan that strikes a remarkable resemblance. 

NL-HaNA_4.MST_71.thumb.jpg.51fe89f230343d7ed22d4b41f21ea619.jpg

NL-HaNA, Marine Bouwtekeningen Schepen, 4.MST, inv.nr. 71

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On 8/24/2015 at 3:01 AM, Arvenski said:

They seem to me like they've got a lot more boom than the gun sounds we have in-game now. :P

 

The only thing that occurred to me was that they might not be as historical, but I watched this, and that didn't sound too different from those old sounds...  

That 12lb ordnance, was fired with less than a pound of powder, no shot (and you can see had no discernable recoil at all).

Fired with shot and full charges it would make a much more 'crisp' firing signature and recoil some 10 feet or so if not restrained.

See the vasa cannon firing for the 'real' thing, rather than a 'safe' museum demonstration.

https://binged.it/2Sh09Ph

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(The Bofors firing included one recorded shot which passed through the 18" side, carried 500 metres further and went through a fairly substantial standing conifer, bounding further after this again)... Not something most museums can practically demonstrate

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