Player-selected ships 2017 - Initial poll

[Major General La Fayette]

3 hours ago, Alado said:

this is smoke, we have nothing. And remenber, Spain only have one ship, one of biggest navys and most representative in this time and place. Rusia have 4, Russsians know where are caribe in this time??? plzz

Spanish salt is one of the finest salt in Europe, thx for making this thread funny jajajajajajajajaja

[LeBoiteux]

32 minutes ago, SteelSandwich said:

The euridice is a rather typical late dutch multipurpose frigate. With its higher profile it was quite able to carry goods and marines to less accesible places.

(...)

If these polls have shown us anything it is that people: tend to vote for big ships screwing over interesting smaller ones

Right now only 515 members have voted. Last poll, 1867 ones have voted. What if the next 1000 votes were for the Euridice (I'd vote for her me too if so)... or any other Light frigates  ? 

In that cas, HMS Cerberus would feel less alone :

2 hours ago, Admiral Horatio Hornblower said:

do we need another ship that people wont sail as the cerberus?

btw I love HMS Cerberus. Don't say anything bad about her ! 

32 minutes ago, SteelSandwich said:

The venus, 20 gun corvette not included here, stood her ground during thr siege of palembang. Taking on main battery to allow transport ships to land marines. She held her ground and paid the price for it. Commended for her performance she was send for repairs which proved to be accessive which resulted in her being sold.

I'd love to see her in game ASAP !!!

Dutch have certainly a lot of nice ships !! As other nations...

 

 

[Barbancourt]

7 hours ago, Admiral Horatio Hornblower said:

So due to the dutch having 0 ships we have to vote a third rate without an interesting service record and with a meh design.

Whats the purpose? do we need another ship that people wont sail as the cerberus?

 

Huh?  Cerberus is a popular and useful ship.  Service record not really interesting factor to me.  What's your problem with the design of Wreker?

[o Barão]

15 hours ago, Admiral Horatio Hornblower said:

So due to the dutch having 0 ships we have to vote a third rate without an interesting service record and with a meh design.

Whats the purpose? do we need another ship that people wont sail as the cerberus?

That ships, like others appointed, is almost a second rate, and I'd prefer to sail, any time, a bucentaure.

That "meh design" have 36 pounders in the lower deck and 30 pounders in the upper gun deck.

[Admiral Horatio Hornblower]

3 hours ago, no one said:

That "meh design" have 36 pounders in the lower deck and 30 pounders in the upper gun deck.

Thanks mate to give me more reason to believe that, with 80 guns and that broadside weight, that "meh" design does not belong to the third rate category. We are looking to fill the gaps in third rate ships, did you know?.

[pietjenoob]

2 hours ago, Admiral Horatio Hornblower said:

Thanks mate to give me more reason to believe that, with 80 guns and that broadside weight, that "meh" design does not belong to the third rate category. We are looking to fill the gaps in third rate ships, did you know?.

Then u can get rid of all the Dutch ships then since most of the sol are designed to punch above their normal rate

[Fluffy Fishy]

1 hour ago, pietjenoob said:

Then u can get rid of all the Dutch ships then since most of the sol are designed to punch above their normal rate

You could just adjust the rating system of the game slightly to be one that's based on poundage of broadside over number of cannons.

Saying that the Dutch ships will always stick out due to them being heavily gunned whilst maintaining a shallow draft, although their rounder hulls to support the weight of these guns would mean the Dutch ships would have behaved quite a bit more tender than most SoLs and that brings it's own issues, perhaps balance it out slightly by having them roll and heel more violently than other SoLs?

Edited September 21, 2017 by Fluffy Fishy

[pietjenoob]

49 minutes ago, Fluffy Fishy said:

You could just adjust the rating system of the game slightly to be one that's based on poundage of broadside over number of cannons.

Saying that the Dutch ships will always stick out due to them being heavily gunned whilst maintaining a shallow draft, although their rounder hulls to support the weight of these guns would mean the Dutch ships would have behaved quite a bit more tender than most SoLs and that brings it's own issues, perhaps balance it out slightly by having them roll and heel more violently than other SoLs?

And also maybe less of a turn since a good keel acts more or less like a fin and that can make shallow water also drift a bit more than usual

[Adm_Frisian]

Captains. We need to fill 3 gaps in the ship line up.

Please propose ships for the consideration. 

Requirements in broadside guns

• Light frigates 32-36 guns (we have no ships in this range)
• Heavy frigates 50-60 guns (we only have trincomalee and constitution in this range)
• 3rd rates 70-80 guns (we only have 1.5 ships in this range)

All other gun counts will not be considered

Nation preference

• Dutch
• Portuguese
• Venetian

Other great models will also be allowed but we would prefer underrepresented nations. 

 

Important update

We won't accept long lists of ships. We want YOU to make a choice. Lists will be ignored. Please if you are interested in a certain ship getting into a game. List that ship alone. 

 

 

this is what is asked for by de devs

 

is it so hard to read?? 

[Arvenski]

4 hours ago, Borch said:

Bump

It's a pinned thread, dude... lol

[Haratik]

It's first on the list dude.  How do you miss that? Lmao

[pietjenoob]

On 21-9-2017 at 1:21 PM, Fluffy Fishy said:

You could just adjust the rating system of the game slightly to be one that's based on poundage of broadside over number of cannons.

Saying that the Dutch ships will always stick out due to them being heavily gunned whilst maintaining a shallow draft, although their rounder hulls to support the weight of these guns would mean the Dutch ships would have behaved quite a bit more tender than most SoLs and that brings it's own issues, perhaps balance it out slightly by having them roll and heel more violently than other SoLs?

With Legends i already heard people saying shallows are which make it interesting if you for example want to defend a fortress but you have mainly frigate but a 2/3 shallow water sols with a heavy broadside in the shallows whilst their French, American, Spanish and English counterparts need have at least half more depth to operate. Which also should also get naval landing were only traders for example can land marines to shore to capture fortresses, tower and the town. Which in turn could be translated to paying soldiers to keep city save.

[Barbancourt]

Final Poll, please

[George Washington]

Time for a Final Poll

[LeBoiteux]

well... for now, current number of votes < 1/3 votes during ship poll 2016 (547 vs 1867)

(even though waiting won't change the results)

Edited September 29, 2017 by LeBoiteux

[Haratik]

2 hours ago, LeBoiteux said:

well... for now, current number of votes < 1/3 votes during ship poll 2016 (547 vs 1867)

(even though waiting won't change the results)

 

I'm sure the population's not what it was in 2016 either.

[Arvenski]

3 hours ago, Haratik said:

I'm sure the population's not what it was in 2016 either.

http://steamcharts.com/app/311310

The 2016 poll thread was closed in April of that year. According to Steam Charts, the average number of people ingame during that month was 1359. In the last 30 days, the average has been 455. While you don't need to be active ingame to be active on the forums, I'd guess that we'll have fewer voters this time around.

[Haratik]

The forum population from what I've seen over the years across different games is reflective of only a small portion of the actual ingame population, but I'm sure that's not news to most of us.  That being said, unless there's a bunch of alts running around ingame, the numbers are curiously even.

[LeBoiteux]

The 2016 poll remained open 3 months. The 2017 poll is only 3 weeks old...

That might be the main reason for the vote difference...

That also shows that those who are in a hurry might have to wait.

However, in 2016, there was no 'initial' poll (that implies a second round of voting)...

1 hour ago, Arvenski said:

According to Steam Charts, the average number of people ingame during that month was 1359. In the last 30 days, the average has been 455. While you don't need to be active ingame to be active on the forums, I'd guess that we'll have fewer voters this time around.

'An average number of people ingame during a month = 455' doesn't obviously mean that the same 455 players play NA over and over 24 hours a day, 30 days a month. That makes a lots of potential voters. More than the current 549 ones.  

I just mean we might have to wait. 

The results are unlikely to massively change but devs might wish to let as many players as possible vote.

Edited September 30, 2017 by LeBoiteux

[Barbancourt]

Take a look at the current results.  Isn't the lineup for the final vote for one new ship pretty obvious already?

[Surcouf]

Currently 550 people have voted. Is it representative of the number of testers? I don't know. Some voted that they do not own the game. Like me. So some votes are "faked".

[George Washington]

Final Poll Candidates - Top 8 

1.Montañés-class (1794, Spanish 74-gun 3rd rate) 24.50

2.Téméraire-class (1782, French 74-gun 3rd rate) 23.41

3.Wreker-class (1798, Dutch 80-gun 3rd rate) 19.96

4.Venus, Bellona-class (1783, Swedish 40-gun frigate) 3.63

5.Foudroyant (1798, British 80-gun 3rd rate) 2.90

6.Friderichsværn (1784, Danish 36-gun frigate) 2.72

7. Princesa Real (1819, Portuguese 50-gun frigate) 2.72

8.Saint Nicholas (1790, Russian 34-gun frigate) 2.18

Edited September 30, 2017 by George Washington

[Malachi]

I think that´s the 4th time now Venus is in 4th place in a poll. Poor little ship

[pietjenoob]

1 hour ago, George Washington said:

Final Poll Candidates - Top 8 

1.Montañés-class (1794, Spanish 74-gun 3rd rate) 24.50

2.Téméraire-class (1782, French 74-gun 3rd rate) 23.41

3.Wreker-class (1798, Dutch 80-gun 3rd rate) 19.96

4.Venus, Bellona-class (1783, Swedish 40-gun frigate) 3.63

5.Foudroyant (1798, British 80-gun 3rd rate) 2.90

6.Friderichsværn (1784, Danish 36-gun frigate) 2.72

7. Princesa Real (1819, Portuguese 50-gun frigate) 2.72

8.Saint Nicholas (1790, Russian 34-gun frigate) 2.18

and if you take out the French, American, Russian and British ships

[pietjenoob]

1.Montañés-class (1794, Spanish 74-gun 3rd rate) 24.50

2.Wreker-class (1798, Dutch 80-gun 3rd rate) 19.96

3.Venus, Bellona-class (1783, Swedish 40-gun frigate) 3.63

4.Friderichsværn (1784, Danish 36-gun frigate) 2.72

5.Princesa Real (1819, Portuguese 50-gun frigate) 2.72

6.Wenden (1706, Danish 70-gun 3rd rate) 2.00

7.Vrijheid-class (1782, Dutch 74-gun 3rd rate) 1.85

8.Göta Lejon (1746, Swedish 74-gun 3rd rate) 1.45

Then I you have the more underrepresented nation, but then u still could remove the Swedish ship then you will have the Dutch 32 gun Euridice.

Although the wenden might not get ingame since age then u have a tie between the Fama and the Delft

Edited September 30, 2017 by pietjenoob