Malachi

Not a sloop or 6th rate at all, but a nice ship nonetheless: added swedish East-Indiaman 'Adolph Friedric' (former sixty gun ship 'Prins Fredrik Adolf')

Seconded. Me wants a Niger-Class frigate. Or even better, the Lowestoffe of 1761.

Added Dauphine, Blaa Hejren, Amarante and two dutch ships

OP updated with Phoenix, Niger,Provornyi, Bonne Citoyenne, Port Mahon

Yeah, Sloops-of-War <3!! I´ll focus on relatively unknown ships first, because plans for these are hard to find. Well, harder to find than plans for the Vic, Conny or the two you mentioned.

Just a couple of interesting ships which would be a nice additon to NA (in my opinion, at least ) Some plans are available online, some have been published in books and I tried to find the best and most complete set of plans. I´ll update the OP with new suggestions from time to time. Aurore, french, 1697-1720, 18 guns Dauphine, french, 1703 - 1705, 30 guns Peregrine Galley, british, 1700 - 1761, 20 guns Hellevoetsluis, dutch, 1707 - 1724, 20 guns Blaa Hejren, danish, 1734 - 1761, 18 guns Phoenix, british, 1743 - 1762, 20 guns Amarante, french, 1747 - 1760, 12 guns No Name, dutch, ~1750, 22 guns Gibraltar, british, 1754 - 1773, 20 guns Niger, british, 1757 - 1814, 32 guns Sardoine, french/british, 1757- 1768, 14 guns Christiansborg, danish, 1758 - 1786, 24 guns Chevert/Pomona, french/british, 1759 - 1776, 18 guns Adolph Friedric, swedish, 1763 - 1786, 24 guns (East-Indiaman) Provornyi, russian, 1776 - 1789, 20 guns (rowing frigate, Baltic Sea) Termagant, british, 1780 - 1795, 22 guns Bonne Citoyenne, french/british, 1795 - 1819, 20 guns Vensejo/Port Mahon, spanish/british, 1797 - 1837, 18 guns

Well, the Myrmidon is an almost 100% identical bitish copy of the Amazon/Panthère (captured 1745), which basically was a scaled down 20-gun version of the Renommée/Siréne. That being said, I forgot that we´re going to get the Renommée ingame so the Myrmidon would be a bit redundant. A fine looking ship, though. And a very good and fast sailor, too, according to her sailing report.

Myrmidon 1781 Dimensions: Length of Gundeck 113' 9 ½" Length of Keel 94' 2" Breadth 31' 0" Depth in Hold 10' 2" Burthen 481 15⁄94 Armarment: Upper Gun Deck 20 6-pounder Quarterdeck 2 3-pounder (to be replaced by two 12-pounder carronades later on) Hull coppered in August 1781. Named for the warlike race who followed Achilles in the Trojan War, the first H.M.S. Myrmidon to serve in the Royal Navy was a sixth rate of 481 tons built at Deptford and laid down in November 1779. Launched on 9th June 1781, she measured 114 feet in length with a 31 foot beam and was based on the lines of H.M.S. Amazon, a French frégate légère (La Panthère) captured in 1745 and assimilated into the fleet on account of her particularly useful design. Mounting 22 guns - 20-6pdrs. on her upper deck and 2-3pdrs. on her quarterdeck - and carrying a crew of 160, she was not completed until the American War of Independence was drawing close and thus saw only limited service. Despite the Navy's needs in the French Wars, she was hulked for harbour service in 1798 and broken up in April 1811. Six other (slighly smaller and more cost-effective) ships based on her lines were built, Echo (1782), Rattler (1783), Calypso (1783), Brisk (1784), Nautilus (1784), Scorpion (1785). All these ships share a rather uncommon feature, the french-style stern which looks like a direct copy of the stern of the Panthère (or the Renommée, her 'bigger sister'). I orderd her surprisingly complete plans from the NMM, let´s see when they´ll arrive

Lots of nice stuff there, downloaded a couple of plans a while ago. Plans that are complete and would be interesting for NA: Hellevoetsluis/Vollenhoven, 1707, 20 gun frigate Schcipio, 1780, 22 gun frigate Jason, 1778, 26 gun frigate 4th Rate (no name), 1750, 40 guns 4th Rate (no name), 1780, 46 guns, The NMM has plans for two other dutch 4th Rates (Princes Carolina, 1748/ Rotterdam, 1761). And there´s a draught for the absolutely beautiful 60-gun Boekenroode of 1729, might be a bit hard to find, though, can´t remember where I got my copy from.

Ah, one of my favourite ships! A pity the plan is such a bitch to work with, already tried to model her a few times, but the plan (I have a high res version) is too inaccurate to get a decent model out of it.

Vernet (my fav), Clevely the Elder, Whitcomb, the Roux family.

Additionally to what SirThorne just said about player models, I´d like to add that interiors are a complete nightmare for ship modellers because of the research required to get them right. Take my Panthère, for example: These are the question I had to find answers for: - are the side galleries 'just' badges or were they accessible? If the latter, where was the door? - what did the built-in furniture look like? Did the walls of the captain´s cabin have a panelling? - what did the floor loke like? - what kind of removeable furniture was probably there? - is the middle window blocked by the extension of the rudder (in case the ship was steered with a tiller on the QD)? That´s a lot of questions for a place that would look nice but doesn´t have a real gameplay value. I´d rather have the NA team focus on more important things now. Regards, Bava Edit: Ninja´d by admin

Fleuron (one of the most elegant ships ever, imo), Belle Poule (1765, quite a bit of history for this one and the only vessel I know that inspired a hairstyle ) and pretty much any of the frigates or 74s designed by Sané.

Hm, just had a closer look at the plan, might be that you´d have to change to the hull shape a bit if you want to have an ocean-going vessel, it appears to be pretty 'flat'.

For free? They cost 150 euros. But well worth it, Delacroix´s monographies are excellent.

Well, the Mordaunt had t´gallants, so I´d expect to find them on a sailplan for the Mordaunt. And there are other examples of rather shoddy research by model ship makers (e.g. Chapman´s privateer plate 30/31 labeled as french Renommée). But I´m not saying that all commercial plans are bad, most of them have to be taken with a grain of salt, though

It would be perfectly fine for the beginning/middle of the 17th century, but if its meant to represent a ship of the 1680s, I´d expect something like this: http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/12468.html

You can view the same plans (in a slightly higher resolution) here: http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!csearch;collectionReference=subject-90352;authority=subject-90352;start=0;dateMadeCentury=18

Never, ever trust model ship manufacturers. Just look at the sail plan...a bit anachronistic for a ship built at the end of the 17th century, isn´t it?

Damn, that sea tempest song... No idea what they´re singing (other than it´s most likey about a storm)...but it´s great

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGSfWSvNxac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGpMXESMois 'Vite en mer et sans retard, faisons la guerre à l'Angleterre'

For the yachts, Chapman only gives the general dimensions. The privateers and - to a lesser extent - 'historical ships' (e.g. Sirène) have a much more detailed description - armament, crew size, room for provisions, draught fore and aft etc.

I´m wondering if this ship was armed at all. The 'gun ports' seem to be very close to the deck

On a lake, maybe. I wouldn´t trust her that much on the open sea And: Ingermanland!

The Gotheborg has one http://www.shipsandharbours.com/picture/number4650.asp The reason you don´t see anchor slides on contemporary draughts is that a lot of stuff was omitted (like scuppers, every ship had them, but I´ve yet to see it on a plan). Concerning the rigging: Chapman shows ca. 15 rigging plans on plate 60 in his Architectura Navalis Merchatoria and ,if I remember correctly, one is for a single-masted yacht.