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  1. I was going to suggest opening the game to a bit of workshop magic, aka letting some of the modder/technically savee players help build out some of the different ships from history. Soleil Royal, Sovereign of the Seas, Dutch, Italian and Portuguese ships all come to mind as nice, pretty ships that would add depth to the game. Obviously these would have to get flushed out by the development team but how it sails and how the moving parts work together could be built by the community to help streamline the introduction of more ships to the franchise.
  2. Venus frigate Built: Karlskrona Shipyard: Karlskronavarvet Keel laid down: 31/3 1783 Launched: 19/7 1783 Constructiontime: 110 days Ship class: 5th rate Bellona Class frigate Nation: Sweden Production Venus was built following the ”Bellona” design by Fredrik Henrik af Chapman in Karlskrona. Chapman had become superintendent of the naval shipyard in Karlskrona in 1782, and after having won a procurement against fellow shipbuilder Gilbert Sheldon, he was tasked by the king, Gustav III to design and build a new fleet for the kings planned wars, and the ”Bellona” series was the first frigate series to be produced with Chapman as head and they were also the first frigates to be carrying 24-pounder guns. As head Chapman took the opportunity his new title provided to make changes into the way production was managed at the yard, and introduced prefabrication methods that meant he could produce several ships of the same design in a record breaking time. The ”Bellona” and Chapmans SOL ”Wasa” series was a testament of how effective this method really was, 10 ”Bellona” ships and 10 ”Wasa” ships were constructed at the shipyard during 3 years and the fastest ship built took only 45 days to construct. The ships were build with such speed that the part that often took the longest to complete was the figurehead carved by sculpture Johan Törnström, who could take up to 2 years to finish 1 figurehead out of oak, to meet the heroic scale required by the king. The king had previously issued a royal decree that every figurehead and decoration of the new ships, were to be approved by the Royal Academy of Painters and Sculpturs, which meant that several ships left the shipyard with no figureheads at all. Venus was the third one in the ”Bellona” series, and she was launched 19/7 1783. Ship details The original ship dimension based on ”Bellona” were as follows(using 18th century measures converted to the present), overall lenght 156 feet(46.33m), Beam 40 feet(11.88m), Draught (full load) 17 1/2 feet (5.20m), Tonnage 1360. Height of gun deck above water, 7feet(2.10m). Venus(Based on 1789 drawing(image 1)) when completed was 160feet(47.52m) in lenght, beam 40 3/4feet(12,10m), draught(full load) 18 1/3feet(5,44m) Height of gun deck above water, 8feet(2,37m). Tonnage 1345. She had a crew of 342 and was armed with 26 24-pounder guns and 14 6-pounders. The ship was constructed using partially oak trees and the outside planking of the hull from the keel to the gunwale along with the ceiling was buildt with pine. Pine's lifespan was about 2/3 that of oak, but the cost was one-third, and at the time the nations finances were having some problems. She and her sister ships sailed exceptionally well, doing 13-14 knots with a good wind. Swedish Operational History In 1786 she sailed to the city of Göteborg to be integrated into it's naval station under the command of Adolf Ulrik Sheldon. During the Russo-Swedish war, in 1788. Her squadron captured the Russian frigate Kildouin which was marauding west-coast fishing villages. Her service for the Swedish navy was however shortlived, in june 1789, under the command of Magnus Hansson, she patrolled the waters outside the norweigian coastline, which at this time was controlled by Denmark. She made contact with a russian squadron consisting of two Ship of the line, two frigates and one brig. Captain Hansson was positioned in such a way that he would not be able to reach open sea to avoid a confrontation with the Russians, so Hansson retreated to the mouth of the Oslofjord, hopeing that the current Swedish armistice with Denmark would act as an detergent for the Russians to attack, who by doing so would be risking a political scandal if they engaged in what was to be considered a neutral nations waters. Venus made it's way 40km inwards guided by Norweigian harbor pilots and anchored outside Tönsberg. The Russians however, followed and Captain Robert Crown of the brig Merkurij was the first to come in range and opened fire with it's 22 carronades. Venus and Merkurij had long and sharp engagement with the Merkurij taking the greater damage, the remaining of the Russian squadron closed their distance and surrounded Venus by placeing themselves for raking fire. Hansson then consulted with his officers and it was concluded that continuing the engagement would only result in a high amount of casualties while not being able to cause any significant damage on the enemy's bigger ship's. So the decision was made and Hansson surrendered to the Russians by striking the colors. Russian Operational History The Russians repaired the damaged ship and included her into their navy. Rewarding the Scottish Captain of the Merkurij command of the captured frigate. She then saw action the 13th may 1790 against the Swedes in the battle of Reval where a stronger Swedish force attacked a defending Russian fleet, the attack was a disaster and resulted in the loss of two Swedish SOL's and a victory for the Russians. Later in july the same year Venus took part in the battle of Vyborg Bay where the Russian with superior numbers managed to blockade a Swedish fleet commanded by the king himself in the bay with a disaster for the Swedes close at hand. The Swedes made a daring attempt to break the blockad to avoid losing the entire fleet and risking the capture of the king, they were successful but while doing so they suffered heavy losses. During the battle, Venus under the command of the newly promoted Rear Admiral Robert Crown successfully boarded and captured the Swedish SOL Rättvisan, which was one of Chapmans ”Wasa” class ships that had been built alongside with Venus in Karlskrona. The battle was a Russian victory but a strategic victory for the Sweds that managed to save most of it's fleet along with their king. In 1795 Venus became part of vice admiral Peter Hanikoffs squadron of 12 SOL and 8 frigates who Cathrine the Great had leased to the British for 1 million sterling a year. Hanikoff joined together with the English admiral Duncan and took part in a blockade of the Dutch canal ports. In 1797 admiral Duncan ordered Venus to sail to Leith, north of the city of Edinburgh to escort merchant ships heading to the Baltic sea. She was rebuilt in 1804, and during the war of the Fourth Coalition she saw service in the mediterranean sea. In december 1807 she was in need of repairs and sailed to the city of Palermo which was part of the kingdom of Sicily. Two months earlier, the Russian Tsar had declared war on the United Kingdom as a result of the British attack on Copenhagen. The news of the decleration of war reached Palermo while Venus was still being repaired, and as it were, a British fleet closed in to the city and the Russians decided to sell Venus to Sicily in order to avoid letting her be captured by the British. She served under the sicilian flag until atleast 1812 and after that her fate is unknown. Sources Main source- Daniel G Harris. F H Chapman The first naval architect and his works. Published in Great Britain 1989 by Conway Maritaime Press Ltd, 24 Bride Lane, Fleet street, London EC4Y 8 DR. ISBN 0 85177 486 5 Chapman Karlskrona http://www.orlogsstadenkarlskrona.se/page/76/varldsarvsutnamningen.aspx (16.01.2015) Hanikoff squadron- The Cambridge modern history, Volume 13 Stanley Leathes, G. W.(George Walter) Prothero, Sir Adolphus William Ward, John Emerich Edward Dalberg-Acton Acton(Baron.) pp 48, Available online at: https://books.google.se/books?id=zgA-AAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=sv&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false (17.01.2015) Hanikoff squadron- The Royal Military Chronicle; or, The British Officer's monthly register, chronicle, and military mentor. VOL. 1. A new series. From may to october. 1814. London: Printed by w. Green, and T. Chaplin, 1, Crance-court, Fleet-street. pp 462. available online at: https://books.google.se/books?id=kS8FAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA462&lpg=PA462&dq=peter+hanikoff&source=bl&ots=SQnGZpb-iC&sig=4F27OqhYNVjzENyeDPaBV69_rvM&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=33K5VKnwOMWqPJ6_gMAM&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=peter%20hanikoff&f=false (16.01.2015) Robert Crown- The Gentleman's Magazine, and Historical Chronicle, Volym 92. 1822 By Sylvanus Urban, Gent. pp 302. Available online at: https://books.google.se/books?id=HaRJAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA303&lpg=PA303&dq=admiral+Robert+Crown&source=bl&ots=RHBLbFqPbK&sig=PXtvcr1PZuZnAGOCplEQxmJHLlo&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=2T-8VLyRC4PTygOx9oL4Bw&ved=0CGMQ6AEwDQ#v=onepage&q=admiral%20Robert%20Crown&f=false (19.01.2015) Venus ship details http://koti.mbnet.fi/felipe/html/frigates_1700-1860.html (16.01.2015) Ship service history The Maritime History Virtual Archives http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Ships/War/SE/Venus(1783).html (16.01.2015) Images. Images 2 and 3. http://www.sjohistoriska.se/sv/Fordjupning/MarketStore/Foremal1/?msobjid=0004032&Origin=SM (05.06.2015) Image 4 http://www.sjohistoriska.se/sv/Fordjupning/MarketStore/Foremal1/?msobjid=0004036&Origin=SM (05.06.2015)
  3. I tried that mission few times, but i was never able to capture the Arrogate. Any Ideas, if its possible? And what would be the best tactic to take her. In my Case i had 2 Hermiones.
  4. Dimensions (imperial) length 148' 3'' breadth 38' 7' draugth aft 17' draugth forward 15' 9'' distance of the meta center to true midpoint 2' 10'' (waterline) heigth of middle gunport above the waterline 6' 6'' length-to-breadth ratio 3,84 Armarment danish service 26 18-pounders 4 12-pound howitzers 14 6-pounders Crew 380 british service 26 24-pounders (Gover) 14 32-pound carronades 2 9-pounders Crew 264 Launched 1793, captured by the RN in 1807. Coverted to troopship in 1811. Capable of 10.6 knots close-hauled and 13 knots running free, although rather leewardly (performance of sister-ship Iris). Good, easy sea-boat. British captains trimmed her by the head, which is quite unusual and the danish design draughts indicate that was not the case in danish service (draft was almost 2 feet deeper overall in british service). Lovely french lines, fast, a cool figure-head and 4 bow chase ports...what´s not to like?
  5. Hello Everyone, If I was thinking of making an Indefatigable and outfitting it with all carronades in the hopes of being the type of ship to be played as a brawler for kill missions and open sea hunting on PVE server, what would be good wood choices? I’d be trying to get in close right away and just outgun the opponent aggressively. Is it best to just push armor thickness and sacrifice speed and handling (and say pick something like LO/WO)? Is it best to not lose speed and handling and chose something like teak/wo? Or perhaps different combination? Thank you in advance for your responses Raithmore
  6. Hellas Greek frigate 62 guns 1826 Characteristics: Length:54 m Width: 14m Tonnage:1728 t Draft:4.2 m Armament of the Hellas: 48(16 pdr) + 16 carronades(42 pdr) Sistership USS Hudson: https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2412 From "History of the American Sailing Navy" by Howard Chapelle: "The Sailing Navy, 1775-1854" by Paul H. Silverstone: Also, from "Register of Ships of the U.S. Navy, 1775-1990: Major Combatants" by Karl Jack Bauer, Stephen S. Roberts "American Heavy Frigates 1794-1826" by Mark Lardas: Better resolution plans here: https://openlibrary.org/books/OL24398454M/The_history_of_the_American_sailing_Navy Her plans: Sources :http://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/h/hudson-i.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_frigate_Hellas https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ελλάς_Ι_(φρεγάτα) Model: http://greekshipmodels.com/ships/fregata-ellas/ Model of the Hellas in the Greek War Musuem: https://imgur.com/gallery/gGxuH
  7. History Fama was the flagship of the last great Admiral of the Venetian Republic Angelo Emo, who captained the ship during his continuous missions hunting down Barbary pirate including the siege of Tunis in 1785. Angelo Praised Fama for her considerable speed and agility naming the ship as comfortably the best Venice had. The plans for Fama were drawn up in 1782 and 6 ships were laid, of which 5 were completed she was constructed in the Venetian Arsenal by Giovanni Domenico Giacomazzi, who was considered the best venetian shipwright in of his time and built accordingly the "ad ordinata doppia" system which was implement in 1780 by Angelo Emo who after studying the construction techniques used by the English and the French, hoped to match them or even surpass them. Fama herself spent most of her career in active service, either stationed off of Corfu with the main detachment of the Venetian navy, ready to face threats from threats to the mouth of the Adriatic by the Ottomans or other hostile nations or spent hunting Pirates over the Mediterranean or Barbary Coast. Fama was captured alongside the rest of the Venetian fleet by Napoleon in 1797 when she was briefly renamed Renomee and then renamed again to Du Blois a month later. After her capture she was sailed to Tulon where she was rearmed with slightly smaller guns to fit French standards to take part in Napoleon's Egyptian expedition where she unfortunately collided with the French flagship "L'Orient", suffering severe damage. Despite her damage she remained to Alexandria and was used as headquarters by General Kleber was later partially sunk to block the entrance into Alexandria, she was then captured by the British and sadly broken up without the French, nor British ever realising her potential as a swift and powerful shock ship or as a strong commerce escort and pirate hunter. The Fama Class were given heavy armaments to match larger capital ships but maintaining the speed, versatility and agility of a frigate, thus the name Fregata Grossa came about, translating to Large Frigate, The ideas behind the Fregata Grossa rated ships were to hit hard and fast, able to set combat to their own advantage the theory was a cross between their contemporary super frigates and modern battlecruisers. They also contain similar thoughts used in the huge super frigates of the later 19th century but obviously without the steam engines to power them. The 6 Ships of the Fama Class were: Fama (1784) Gloria Veneta (1794) Le Stengel (1797) Le Beyrand (1797) Diamante (1797) Unnamed (uncompleted) Fama and Gloria Veneta both served under the Venetian Republic with considerable distinction. The other ships of the class were completed during the French and Austrian Occupation periods. Le Stengal and Beyrand both served briefly in the Napoleonic fleet and were then transferred to Austria as part of the peace deal. Diamante was badly damaged during the French Looting period and was patched up but sailed poorly, to deal with this she was armed from head to toe with 24lb guns and used as a floating battery, later she was repaired and served in the Austrian navy as a troop transport ship. A further Unnamed ship of the class was laid but damaged beyond salvation and was sadly broken up with parts being used to outfit other ships but mostly used as firewood. Fama well represents the Venetian Naval doctrine of the time, Venice continuing to fight with a hybrid fleet of Galeass, Galleys and Frigates, due to the history and nature of what remained of the Venetian Empire. Her outfitting, speed and manoeuvrability made her a great shock ship with a strong punch, able to hunt down pirates and operate well in shallow waters and archipelagos with complex coastlines. She is also incredibly well suited for the calm waters of the Mediterranean and able to produce good speed no matter the wind conditions. She was praised for her sailworthiness by her captains and considered the jewel in the late Venetian Fleet. Details Fama was considered a Secondo Rango Fregata Grossa within the Venetian Fleet, then after she was captured by the French she was reclassified as a 3rd rate, although if she were in the game she would likely be similarly placed as Agamemnon, among the 4th rates. Her measurements are (peidi are the Venetian feet): Total Length: 138 piedi or 48.00 meters Keel: 122 piedi or 42.42 meters Width: 37 piedi or 12.86 meters Draft: 17.5 piedi or 6.08 meters (when under French service: 16 fore, 18ft aft (5.2-5.85m)) Bilge Tip (height between the keel and deck): 28 piedi or 9.73m She was crewed by around 450-500 men, depending on how many sailors Venice could muster at the time. The Venetian state had a continuous issue with raising the appropriate number of men to serve on her navies during the later years of the republic. Fama had similar crew numbers to her contemporary 64s by other navies, however due to her smaller size these men served in even more cramp conditions than was generally experienced by the worlds navies, her officers quarters were equally as confined, especially considering that she was used for most of her career as an admiral's flagship, although these close natured lodgings were something the Venetians were always used to back at home in Venice. She sailed incredibly well and was praised for being hugely fast and agile, giving her the best ability to perform her main tasks, protecting merchant shipping and hunting down pirates. Her performance under sail is fairly well documented, receiving universal commendation from the officers who sailed her. I have not yet found any information about how she heeled, rolled and other similar specifics, as Venice had no sailing queries similar to the Royal Navy. Armaments Fama Carried 66 Guns, and her four chasers, below is a make up of weight and armaments during both the French and Venetian outfitting. She also had the potential to point the two cannons nearest the bow on the main gun deck in a forwards direction to aid the 2 dedicated chase guns situated either side of the foremast and 2 rear facing guns. During Venetian period by Venetian Weight 26 x 40lb (26.5 British pounds) (12.04 kg) 26 x 30lb (20 British pounds) (9.03 kg) 14 x 14lb (9 British pounds) (4.21 kg) 2x 14lb (9 British lb) Bow Chasers (4.21 kg) 2x 14lb (9 British lb) Stern Chasers (4.21 kg) Broadside Weight = 1008 Venetian Pounds (667.5 British Pounds) (303.4 kg) French Period By French Weight (reduced to a 64) 26 x 24lb (11.74 kg) 26 x 18lb (8.8 kg) 12 x 6lb (2.93 kg) 2 x 6lb Bow Chasers (2.93 kg) 2 x 6lb Stern Chasers (2.93 kg) Broadside Weight = 588 French Pound (634.75 British Pounds) (287.5kg) Plans The most true plans, showing the proper lines of of either La Fama or Gloria Veneta, as said below in a post stating the edit history of this thread. This is the only record showing the proper 66 broadside gun ports, although the plan below does miss her bow chasers. The other plans like with her sister ship Stengel show the correct lines, but sadly show incorrect positioning for the guns on the quarterdeck, the other plans show only 6 guns either side (12 in total) from when she was reduced to a 64 rather than the true build when she had 7 (14), which are shown correctly here. This is a modern reproduction by Guido Ercole, there are a couple of minor mistakes where she is shown having 28 guns, not her proper 26 on both her gun decks, she is also missing a gun on her weather deck. The rest of the reproduction is still accurate, with the sail plan and also shows a nice idea of what she would have looked like painted. Some less detailed plans, most likely showing Stengel, after she has one of her weather deck gun ports removed making her into a 64. Rough Planking and Framing Methods used Art Many Thanks go to Sella22 for letting me use some of his resources, I would really love to see this ship in the game, she would be a fantastic addition. Thank you for Reading.
  8. Constellation 1794 Plans Large visit of USS Constellation. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YpWpPoVYB2s
  9. hello everyone, Thought I'd drop my progress of this french frigate here, there is still a lot to be done but here's where I'm at so far. Atm the hull + rigging and masts is 90k triangles. Here are some screenshots from the ship in marmoset toolbag, it's a program showing how a 3d model would look in a game engine so no fancy vray renders hehe. I also made some cannons and swivels which are on the ship, here are some renders of them. cannon: swivel: I still need to add some rigging and one more mast piece and dont mind the stern either I'm gonna make it less boring and add some sculpts to it, also gonna try making a figurehead. I hope you guys like it, could use some feedback on the textures too btw.
  10. L'aurore Frigate Google translated from French The light frigate, small vessel relegated to the bottom of the ranking between large frigates and long boats and applied for all purposes in the Navy of Louis XIV, had never until now been the subject of a comprehensive study . This is in line with the one on French naval architecture • 17 century, initiated by Jean Boudriot, author of two monographs, one on the "Ship 3 decks of Monsieur de Tourville" and the other in the long boat "La Belle". Jean-Claude Lemineur, based on a manuscript of François Coulomb, written in 1683, has written a monograph on his side of a 5th rank ship "Le François." The study of Dawn he proposes, begins with the definition of the characteristics of light frigates at the entrance of the reign of Louis XIV, who still respond to the views prevailing in the first half of the 17th century. It then traces their evolution, the architecture of the adapting light frigate, like the ship, the steady increase in firepower over the great periods of the reign and the following decades, until despite the reduction of its senior, she is abandoned in favor of the corvette whose forms are more clear-on the water. The study continues by focusing on a remarkable example of small frigates built in the aftermath of the Ministries of Colbert and Seignelay "L'Aurore" of 18 guns of 6 Books, start of construction in Le Havre in 1697 by Philippe Cochois. The Dawn is carefully analyzed, both in its architecture and its decor features well-volu metric of its hull. These demonstrate the talent of Philippe Cochois whose career is briefly traced, demonstrating an unusual command of volumes he fashions with boldness. Restitution of Dawn by Jean-Claude Lemineur therefore appeals to all of the few specific sources for this type of building. The result of these studies is concretized by 31 boards 1'écheJle 1/48 ° that graphically describe Dawn in all its aspects, from its schematic forms to complete rig through its structure and interior layouts. The relative dryness of the subject is somewhat mitigated by the account of his service in the Royal Navy, particularly with the story of two long cruises across the Atlantic. This story, significant enrichment of the book is the work of the historian Patrick Villiers. It helps to give of Dawn, a more vivid image. In total, the monograph provides information both on the technical and historical light frigate in the French navy, de1661à 1750. Its content should respond fully to the expectations of savvy designers. Plans: Building a model: http://www.shipmodeling.ru/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=70946
  11. Le Muiron Venetian/French frigate 44 guns 1797 Her history: Muiron was a frigate of the French Navy, famous for ferrying Bonaparte on the 22 August 1799 under the flagship of Admiral Ganteaume from Egypt to France after the Battle of the Nile. The Muiron was one of two 18-pounder armed frigates that were building on the stocks in Venice in November 1796, when Bonaparte took Venice during the Campaign of Italy. The two frigates were launched in August 1797 under the names Carrère and Muiron, and completed during November by the orders of Pierre-Alexandre Forfait. Muiron was named to honour Colonel Jean-Baptiste Muiron, an aide-de-camp of Bonaparte who had covered Bonaparte with his body during the Battle of the Bridge of Arcole. The Muiron was armed with 28 × 18-pounder guns on the upper deck, and 12 × 6-pounder guns on the quarterdeck and forecastle, and manned with a complement of 340. She was incorporated in the fleet that invaded Egypt, and after the Battle of the Nile, Bonaparte departed for France aboard. She later took part in the Battle of Algeciras Bay. In 1807, Napoleon ordered that the Muiron be preserved as a monument; to this effect, he wrote a letter to the Ministry of the Navy, stating "I wish that the Muiron on which I came back from Egypt be kept as a monument and placed in such a way that it be preserved, if possibly, several hundreds years". She was repaired and docked in Toulon, which a golden inscription on her hull stating: "The Muiron, taken in 1797 in Venice arsenal by the conqueror of Italy. She brought back the saviour of France from Egypt in 1799". Napoléon also had a finely crafted scale model made for his study in Malmaison in 1803. This model is now on display at the Musée national de la Marine in Paris. At the Bourbon Restoration, Muiron was decommissioned, and she was eventually destroyed in 1850, in circumstances that remain unclear. Conflicting theories have it that she was either sold for material and broken up, or destroyed by fire after being struck by lightning. The British captured her sister ship in August 1801 and added her to the British Navy as HMS Carrere. Dimensions: (in venetian piedi 1 Venetian piede = 0,3 meter = 12 inches): 135'6" x 35'6" x 19' Length of Gundeck: 150' 10" Imperial Feet or 45.72 meters Length of Keel: 122' 3 ½" Imperial Feet or 37.1983 meters Depth of Hold: 12' 9" Imperial Feet or 3.6576 meters Breadth: 39' 5 ½" Imperial Feet or 11.8999 meters Burthen: 1,012 74⁄94 Tons BM Armament: 28 x 18 pounder 16 x 6 pounder Plans(from Vascelli e fregate della Serenissima. Navi di linea della Marina veneziana 1652-1797 http://www.amazon.it/Vascelli-fregate-Serenissima-veneziana-1652-1797/dp/8890565144/ref=pd_rhf_dp_p_img_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=10SB0B1PBW7848V5AFN2): Muiron's sistership: Carrere 38/44 guns 1797 History: Carrère was a French frigate that served briefly in the French navy before the British captured her in 1801, naming her HMS Carrere. She seems never to have seen any meaningful active duty after her capture as she was laid up in 1802 and finally sold in 1814. Carrère was one of two 38-gun frigates that were building on the stocks in Venice in May 1797, when Napoleon took the city during the Campaign of Italy. Pierre-Alexandre Forfait ordered the two frigates completed, which they were in August 1797 under the names Carrère and Muiron. The French named Carrère after an esteemed artillery colonel who had fallen at Unzmarkt fighting the Austrians. Carrère and Muiron both served during the French invasion of Egypt in 1798. They then accompanied Napoleon on his return to France after the failure of that campaign. The captain of the Carrère was Commodore Pierre Dumanoir le Pelley, and with him travelled generals Lannes, Murat, and Marmont. The British Pomone of 48 guns, in company with Phoenix and Pearl, captured Carrère near Elba on 3 August 1801 after a short fight. She was escorting a small convoy from Porto Ercole to Porto Longone during the Siege of Porto Ferrajo. Pomone lost two men killed and four wounded, of whom two died later. The French casualty list was not initially available. The Royal Navy took her in as HMS Carrere, but rated at 36 guns. Frederick Lewis Maitland was her first captain. He sailed her to Portsmouth, where she arrived on 24 September 1802. Carrère's active duty career in the Royal Navy was short. She was paid off on 4 October 1802 and then laid up in ordinary. She was sold on 1 September 1814. The purchasers had to post a bond of £3000 that they would not sell or otherwise dispose of her but would break her up within 12 months from the day of sale. Dimensions: Same as above Armament: (French Service): Upper Gun Deck: 28 × 18-pounder guns Quarterdeck: 12 brass x 8-pounder guns + 2 x 36-pounder obusiers Forecastle: 2 x 36-pounder obusiers (British service): Upper Gun Deck: 28 x British 18-Pounder Quarterdeck: 10 x British 32-Pound Carronade Quarterdeck: 2 x British 9-Pounder Forecastle: 2 x British 32-Pound Carronade Forecastle: 2 x British 9-Pounder Crew: French service: 356 British service: 340 (352) Sources: Vascelli e fregate della Serenissima. Navi di linea della Marina veneziana 1652-1797 http://www.amazon.it/Vascelli-fregate-Serenissima-veneziana-1652-1797/dp/8890565144/ref=pd_rhf_dp_p_img_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=10SB0B1PBW7848V5AFN2 http://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-national-marine/app/collection/record/9030 http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,135327174,var,militaria%3Dlivre-de-construction-du-3macirc%3Bts-la-freacute%3Bgate-le-muiron-avec-ces-plans-dorigines-1933,language,E.html http://forummarine.forumactif.com/t3001-la-fregate-la-muiron-1797-1850 https://troisponts.wordpress.com/2011/09/26/la-fregate-la-muiron/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Carrere_(1801) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_frigate_Muiron Thank you LeBoiteux and Fluffy Fishy!
  12. 'Blanford' H.M.S. Blandford was a 20 gun ship, launched on 13th February 1719. Please share gun specs and history.
  13. Plan (from the Riksarkivet, Kopenhagen) Service history Designed by Blaise Pangalo (also known as maître Blaise) at Brest Keel laid down: 09. 1706 First Commissioned 10. 1707 21.10. 1707 Battle of the Lizard/Bataille d'Ouessant (I linked the english and the french wiki entries) Capture of the Ruby, 50 guns, and several merchant ships 1708 Cruise to the Azores, again as part of the escadre Duguay-Trouin, taking three prices 1711 Expedition to Rio de Janeiro 1712 Return to Brest 1728 Cruise to Tripoli, Bombardement of Tripoli 1741 hulked at Brest 1748 broken up Dimensions ( as demi - batterie, in pied de Roi) Length 118' Breadth 31'6'' Depth in hold 13'6'' Armarment Gundeck 6, later 8* 12 pounders Upper Deck 26* 8 pounders Forecastle and Quarterdeck 8* 4 pounders Dimensions (as frigate) Length 118'9'' Breadth 32' Depth in hold 13'8 1/2'' Armarment Upper Deck 26* 8 pounders Forecastle and Quarterdeck ? A couple of words about Blaise Pangalo, as he was quite an illustrious and mysterious figure: Originally from Venice, he went to France to work as a shipwright and was 'discovered' by Admiral de Tourville in the late 1670s. With this kind of patronage and his exceptional talents , he quickly rose through the ranks and finally became master shipwright at Brest, the most senior position in the hierachy of french naval engineers. While in french service, he designed and built at least 23 vessels, including five first rates. Pangalo´s ships were famed for stability, speed and weatherliness and his work had an huge impact on french ship design and provided a major influence for Blaise Ollivier, one of the most eminent figures in 18th century ship building ( and he built 'our' Renommée, by the way). Pangalo - most probably - died in 1714 in Brest, although it´s possible that he faked his own death in a rather creative effort to escape substantial financial troubles and contined working in Russia under Peter the Great until 1719. L'Amazone was one the first demi-batteries, 'designed specifically for commerce raiding' (Sailing Ships at War, Howard), with a fully armed upper deck and half a tier of guns on the gun deck. It´s not clear when the rebuilt took place, but given the service history of L'Amazone, I think it´s safe to assume that it happened either under the supervision of Joseph Ollivier, Blaise´s father, as master shipwright at Brest or in the early years of B. Ollivier´s tenure at the same post. In either case, she was one of the very first steps in the evolution of the 'true' frigate. Sources: Ships and Shipbuilders: Pioneers of Design and Construction, Walker, 2010 18th Century Shipbuilding: Remarks on the Navies of the English & the Dutch. Olliver, 1737, edited by Roberts, 1992 Snau and Fregat: Small Cruisers in the Danish Navy 1650 - 1750, Auer, 2008 Vaisseau de 64 cannons Le Fleuron, Boudriot/Delacroix, 1995 WIP pics As the plan leaves much to be desired, I have to do things a bit differently this time (read: oldschool) and build the ship from the ground up. The 'frames' aren´t the actual frames, just the station lines with the thickness of the planking already added, should serve as a nice visual aid to determine the final hull shape. The stuff not depicted on the plan (e.g. positions/dimensions of the masts, a proper deck plan) will come from contemporary treatises and tables. This is going to be fun
  14. Obviously We need to keep perspective and not turn the game into a Pirate Fest, but Why not include the most famous Pirates ship ?
  15. You know our pirates have nothing special about them in the game and they are just another nation. I thought wouldn't it be better to rename this ship since all can use it to Privateer Frigate? Than you can do this with other ships that you make refits for. Like the Le Gros Ventre Refit could be Caller Privateer Le Gros Ventre. This giving the ships more of a reason why they are modified version of the main ship. I just never could see the blueish Pirate Frigate really being a Pirate ship. It seems more a role you find a Privateer using it for. Than again what is a Pirate? Just a Privateer without a job.
  16. Now this is a real beauty: Dimensions: Length: 150' Breadth: 39' 6' Draft of Water Forward 15' 9'' Draft of Water Abaft 15' 9'' Height of middle gunport above the water: 6' 3'' L/B ratio: 3,8 Burthen in builder´s tonnage: 1000 tons Real Burthen: 915 tons Armament (proposed): 30*32-pounders (described as 'light' - 26 CWT, on sliding carriages) 12*12-pounders (also 'light') 20 musketoons on swivel stocks A battery of 30 long 18s and 8*32-pounder carronades plus 4*9-pounder chase guns would be more realistic, in my opinion. Sir Benjamin Thompson, probably better known as Count Rumford, made this draught in the late 1770s and sent it, amongst others, to Marmaduke Stalkarrt, who, seemingly impressed by the absolutely innovative design, published it in his 'Naval Architecture or the Rudiments and Rules of Shipbuilding' in 1781. Although this frigate has never been built, it´s remarkable for it´s V-shaped hull, similiar to Forfait´s 18-pounder frigates built in the 1790s or Symonds' work in the 1830s/1840s.
  17. Vita Örn/Hvide Ørn (White Eagle) First of all, I posted a bit about this very frigate a while ago in a thread asking for frigates. Figured I'd like to dedicate an entire thread to it now. Vita Örn was a frigate ahead of her time with features to be the norm in frigates from about 1740 and onwards for the next hundred years. She was built by the british shipsbuilder William Smith by commision of the Swedish state at Karlskrona, Sweden in 1711. She was armed with 30 12 pounder cannons and had a crew of 170. She was already amongst the most legendary ships in the Swedish navy (being the fastest frigate in Scandinavia and having taken several prizes and defeated 2 Danish-Norwegian frigates while commanded by Swedish Captain Printz) at the battle of Colberger Heide between Sweden and Denmark-Norway in 1715 where she was captured as a prize by the rising star of the Danish-Norwegian army, Peter Jansen Wessel, later to be enobled and given the name Tordenskiold (Thunder Shield). While in tow, she was renamed to Hvide Ørn and Wessel was rewarded with the command of her. Shortly thereafter, Hvide Ørn was involved in the battle of Rügen. After the engagement had ended with the coming of the dark, Wessel managed to sneak up on the stern of two damaged Swedish SOL's Gotland(56) and Ösel(56). There, he stern rakes the Ösel, cuts the company flag hanging from the stern off before leaving with a full broadside along the ship. The Captain of the ship, Siøstierna, flees the ship and takes shelter in the Gotland. He is later condemmed to death by a swedish court martial but pardoned. By the time the Ösel has made her way back to Karlskrona she's on the absolute verge of sinking. Hvide Ørn participated in lots of key naval engagements between Denmark-Norway and Sweden the years after and she along with her commander became famous at the top of his game, as a frigate commander. I hope to be able to sail the seas in Naval Action in this fine vessel someday. Technical data: Displacement: 600 tons Length: 33 meters Width: 9,42 meters Guns: 30 12 pounders Crew: 170 men
  18. I know there's a pdf file on this ship somewhere, but I kept getting a malware warning, so I might as well post what I've found directly. I've also seen the Pandora suggested here, but with no plans to speak of. Great Britain Name: HMS Pandora Ordered: 11 February 1778 Builder: Adams & Barnard, Grove Street shipyard, Deptford Laid down: 2 March 1778 Launched: 17 May 1779 Completed: 3 July 1779 at Deptford Dockyard Commissioned: May 1779 Fate: Wrecked on 28 August 1791 in theTorres Strait. Class & type: 24-gun Porcupine-class sixth-rate post ship Tons burthen: 524 (bm) Length: 114 ft 7 in (34.93 m) (overall) 94 ft 9.5 in (28.893 m) (keel) Beam: 32 ft 3 in (9.83 m) Draught: 7 ft 4 in (2.24 m) 11 ft (3.4 m) Depth of hold: 10 ft 3 in (3.12 m) Sail plan: Full-rigged ship Complement: 160 (140 by 1815) Armament: As built: Upper deck: 22 × 9pdrs Quarterdeck: 2 × 6pdrs By 1815: Upper deck: 14 × 9pdrs + 8 × 18pdrcarronades Quarterdeck: 2 × 6pdrs I obtained the images from a website I've been visiting lately, in particular a thread of someone building the Pandora: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/844-hms-pandora-1779-cad-build-log/ http://modelshipworld.com/uploads/monthly_03_2013/post-1575-0-89847900-1362193029.jpg I'd like to post the rest of the pics, but they were all done to scale for the model, the above picture was before scaling. Cheers Edit: Image was not showing, link'd instead.
  19. Saint Nicholas Russian Frigate 34 guns Plans: Source article(in Finnish)/More diagrams and images: http://www.fregattinikolainsurkea.fi/411415125 In English:http://www.fregattinikolainsurkea.fi/426398867 Info(Probably this one):http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=21081
  20. Sibylle 1792 Sibylle was a 38-gun Hébé class frigate of the French Navy. She was launched in 1791 at the dockyards in Toulon and placed in service in 1792. After the 50-gun Fourth Rate HMS Romney captured her in 1794, the British took her into service as HMS Sybille. She served in the Royal Navy until disposed of in 1833. While in British service Sybille participated in three notable single ship actions, in each case capturing a French vessel. On anti-slavery duties off West Africa from July 1827 to June 1830, Sybille captured numerous slavers and freed some 3,500 slaves. She was finally sold in 1833 in Portsmouth. Plans are rare and only by PM request. For personal use only.
  21. Inspired by Don Alejandro´s thread about the Spanish Navy, I put all plans for danish frigates posted so far in one thread. Sorted à la francaise, i.e. by caliber of the guns on the upper gun deck, not the actual gun count. 4- / 6-pounder frigates Blaa Heyren 18 guns, 1734, Benstrup Langeland 18 guns, 1758, Krabbe 8-pounder frigates Raae 30 guns, 1709, Judichær Christiania, 20 guns, 1774, Krabbe 8-pounder frigate concept 24 guns, 1794, Stibolt Hvide Ørn, 30 guns, 1798, Hohlenberg Lille Belt 20 guns, 1803, Hohlenberg 12-pounder frigates Hvide Ørn 32 guns, captured 1715, ex-swedish Vita Orn Christiansborg 24 guns, 1758, Krabbe Perlen 36 guns, 1774, Krabbe Friderichsværn 36 guns, 1784, Gerner Triton 30 guns, 1789, Stibolt Nymphen 38 guns, 1806, Hohlenberg 18-pounder frigates Disco 42 guns, 1781, Gerner Havfruen 40 guns, 1789, Stibolt Freia 40 guns, 1793, Stibolt Venus 36 guns, 1804, Hohlenberg Freia 46 guns, 1817, Schifter Diana 20 guns, 1818, Schifter 24-pounder frigates Perlen 46 guns, 1804, Hohlenberg
  22. Hi, Not sure if there is anywhere specific to post work on 3D models but here goes. I've been playing Naval Action for a little bit now and felt it was time to try and get back into 3D modelling after an 8 year break. The first plan I found in these forums was the French Frigate Arethuse so decided to give that a go to ease myself back in. Not sure what model resolution the game takes (or if it would ever be worthy) but this 'test' run will probably be of average resolution. Should be an interesting learning curve using Blender (after coming from Maya). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_frigate_Aréthuse_(1792) Early start. The first 2 were just using the picture plans as is. I had no idea how the rear was made so after this start had a look at a load of reference material and website where people were building models. Pictures 3, 4, and 5 show progress after taking the plans and creating vertical reference image slices along the hull. I was surprisingly close in shape for most of it but was quite out at the front. Oh and ignore the gun holes in the hull, they will be filled in for now - I just wondered how it might look so far More progress when I get the time Simon
  23. HMS Newcastle was a 50-gun fourth rate of the Royal Navy which saw service in the Napoleonic Wars and the War of 1812. A new type of ship, a large spar-decked frigate, Newcastle and her near sister HMS Leander were ordered in response to the threat posed by the heavy American spar-decked frigates, during the War of 1812. The Newcastle proved a successful ship, which operated in squadrons which chased the American frigates, but ultimately failed to catch them before the war ended. She spent some time as the flagship on the North American Station before returning to Britain in 1822 and being laid up the following year as a lazarette. She spent the rest of her career in this role, until being broken up in 1850. Class & type: 50-gun fourth rate Tons burthen: 1,556 bm Length: 176 ft 5 in (53.77 m) (gundeck) Beam: 44 ft 8 in (13.61 m) Depth of hold: 15 ft 1.5 in (4.610 m) Crew: 450 Armament: Upper deck: 30 × 24pdrs Spar deck: 24 × 42pdr carronades Forecastle: 4 × 24pdrs The most important plan is of poor quality. If you have this plan with better resolution, please post it in this topic. (Royale Museum Greenwich definitely has one)
  24. 'L'Armide' This ship can be a nice heavy 18-lbr Frigate addition to Naval Action. It can be an all around 44x18lb gun Frigate or can be mounted with carronades for close combat damage. Ship was named after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armida During the War of American Independence, Navy minister Sartine, his successor Castries, and engineer Borda requested standard plans to standardize the production of 18-pounder frigates (equivalent to the British Fifth-rate) and so it happened. Commanded by Captain Hugon, she participated in the Battle of Navarino in 1827, killing four and capturing the Turkish corvette Sultania; 1 November 1828 she participated in the attack on the castle of Morea. Designer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-No%C3%ABl_San%C3%A9 Armament: Main - 28x18lb Secondary - 16x18lb or 16x24lb Carronades --- Total 28x18lb 16x18lb or 16x24lb Plans
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