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well if they bring military into danish waters it's unlikely that taking out a trader would be their main issue. there sounds like there is another category of NAP that is total non combatant. which sucks because OW pvp is a much for the game to function

that's why it's here so people can see what is expected of each stance. these are the rules people should be playing by in general

I thought I would put up a post since we're getting a lot of questions asking us who is allowed to be killed etc. I think it is wise to clarify it as a diplomatic based discussion This how the rules work Based on the Stance of the nation. NAP/Trade - ANY MILITARY SHIP IS ENGAGEABLE - Traders are left to trade freely. This means the trader is the leader of the fleet. It may have escorts that are military under AI control. Having military player escorts puts you in the engageable status WAR - ALL SHIPS ARE ENGAGABLE ANYWHERE - This is where RvR starts. NEUTRAL - ALL SHIPS ARE ENGAGEABLE. Sailing into national waters and killing is a move towards war. Trading is at own risk. RvR doesn't happen here you must declare a warning of war and the a War Dec. Warning of war can be via diplo channels or forums but a nation should have the opportunity to tell players to change their ways. ALLY - NO SHIPS ARE ENGAGEABLE in any waters. You can ask for fights with them but you shouldn't be trying to gank each other you are friends trying to have fun. So in clarification, unless there is an alliance in place ALL MILITARY SHIPS IN CONTROL OF A PLAYER is fair game to anyone. Doing it in their waters may lead to war but it is still all content. The diplomats should all be enforcing that OW PVP is encouraged for military ships. Traders are only at risk from people at war with them or general pirates. Nation Stances are at this post

I agree completely onboard with the fact that News should be closed to diplomats posting. The actual discussions up to that point should probably be in discord as there is limited group security on forums in general. IE French/Dane diplomacy discussions should not be viewable by anyone but their diplomats and the outcomes go in the news section. As a person who does a lot of diplomacies and back channelling through various games, i have to be as unbiased as possible in discussions and merely clarify needs/wants and stances. I personally have had situations I have completely disagreed with go through because the active parties wanted it. The reality is that everyone has a voice and an ego but diplomacy is not about wants it's about what is best for the game at the time. Personally, i only use the global news forum for announcements. It is not a good place for open conversation with EVERYONE chipping is as can be seen in various posts. I don't think diplomacy itself should be able to be done on forums that are open to other nations though which is why Discord is a better tool for it IMO.

We have recently Moved to the Danish nation. This post will be replaced with one of the appropriate nation shortly.

me too. Never had this issue before. Clearing download cache didnt fix

over 100 now on the list...

GB cahnegd status with US to neutral

yep the spoils of those ports need to be discussed for sure but it's not a discussion for here.

So as a diplomat to france/danes/pirates I have to say this is moving from peace to war again very quickly. Diplomats should be a little removed from the nation in some sense. Their goals are to broker deals for the nation but also to spend that discussion behind closed doors and come out with a clear result. There are things diplomats should know that their nations don't. The forums are not the place for discussions of diplomacy only of the outcomes. 1 - The ports in question are to be owned by swedes, how they become swedes is a bit of a question but if you ask the danes and sweden about it rather than jumping to "YOU BROKE THE DEAL" as a first step it might prove to be a move they wanted or can tolerate for a few days to garner an ongoing peace. I have no contact with the swedes at this time but I suspect that the Danes have a mutual interest in them. If the swedeswould like to make contact with me i am Fasti in game 2 - Who is the Swedish Diplo and what's their view on it? I haven't read pages and pages on this but it seems to have gone sideways for them and not you so their view of it is important. 3 - why broker a peace deal if you want to fight? If you truely want peace at this time then you should be on a stance of discussion not of aggression. 4 - As an outsider, i would say that the move the danes did on the swedish ports was to be discussed between Danes and sweden and the french aspect of the agreement was in place. If sweden and the danes are arguing about it then the outcome of their arguments is what you are to act upon not making your own assumptions prior to this. If they did do something wrong perhaps it was something that would be resolved in short term. If anyone should be complaining right now it should be the swedes. As i say i have not read every page nor do I know all of the posters but it does seem that the agreement will be upheld at this moment just that the handovers are messy. If the treaty over already there should be a post announcing which nation is exiting the treaty. The clarity of this issue is very murky now with all the posts.

add labour hours instead of conquest is still dumb and causes weak weaker. Unity upgrade is most importand You still need to fix things by binding things to accounts....to much tradeables = Alt farm OW travel is bad, fix it. too many screensaver hours.

because we can organize our own battles on our own time without you guys trying to drag each other into it......Ausez have always said we don't want to flip ports for empty battles...thats why they are on weekends. were trying to not be cunts.

lol you caused it silly. now you have 2 fronts and no clues.

declaration posts inn channel GB status US - war danes - NAP Pirates - hostile Sweden - NAP - its the danes France - WAR Dutch - NAP

Contact INK via PM, he is the only guy that seems to be able to work with the database.

no it's not for security reasons....officers and clan leader have same abilities excepting rank changes. you speak rubbish.

fixed. trying to get a base template figured out hehe

With the transfer of ownership of Les Cayes the British and Danish nations have formed a Non-Aggression Pact. British will avoid sailing in Danish waters. Danish will also avoid sailing in British waters. La Mona Pass is understood to be a drive-through area only for traders. No Military ships will be allowed and will be engaged in combat. A 3 day grace period will be honored on cancellation of this agreement on both sides. Honorable clans CCCP and Ausez have negotiated on behalf of their nations with all major clans in support. In the name of His Britannic Majesty, The following clans hereby declare PEACE with the DANISH Nation: WAR LOVE GA TF VCO AUSEZ ARMED CKA ELITE SLRN AHOY DOGZ OAKS (Feel free to comment below if your clan was left out) --------

we were there, you couldn't handle us thats why you have shitty timer locks and massive spikes in population for like 4 hours.

think of the trees. trees are people too!!

not true, GB needs to be on war footings with most nations as the largest population. at some point they become the defenders and nations attack and we defend. the nature of things is that the large become attacked by many small over times and lose some ground and then it goes back the other way. doing nothing ruins the game as does attempting to one port people. Some of the best times in this game on PVP1 the main server were between the US & GB and the GB vs Spain. most of the worst where when you had blocks of countries working together......so now we manage that a bit differently to not fall in same traps.

no theres a large list of names up there and AUSEZ were on the books as always being at war with the US. see discord chats from weeks ago in public channels

so if you have less than a 3 hour window don't log in yeah.

so having seen the warsupplies in play of late they either need heavy changes or removal. 1 they encourage Alts. the whole idea that the warsupplies are the same fro every country is bad. you can just make a character goto the port sail in trade marks make warsupplies as the alt then trade back and use and not have to ship them which is basically broken. Additionally since PVE marks are farmable as per the solomissions giving PVE marks to everyone. you can generate warsupplies easily. Warsupplies should only affect the first 50%. warsupplies should not allow defending towns to just click every now and then to remove the hostility from attackers. if they grind past50% then warsupplies for both sides should be unusable. warsupplies should not be able to be made in a port that has any hostility may work. I beleive the idea was to be able to sent reinforcements not just use currency to reduce. current warsupply meta ruins PVP potentials.

11 UTC onwards is fine for port battles. that's over an hour after the server normally comes up. and would be a reasonable time for a PB after the server up. It should be a 3 hour lockout ... HOWEVER why is it not placed in the EU timeslot since were the ones not playing that timeslot. if your EU play the EU server if not play here etc etc...just saying that your impacting Aussie playtime which is actually the people you didn't want on the EU server...