Politics and PBs (Patch 11/12 - "Clan Wars")

[Hethwill]

8 minutes ago, Norfolk nChance said:

ATTACKER failing to turn up should be fined 4mil gold on the NEXT server downtime like the Town Management system

 

+1

( should not be 4mil but something dynamic comparable to the target BR )

[Norfolk nChance]

14 minutes ago, The Red Duke said:

+1

( should not be 4mil but something dynamic comparable to the target BR )

Nope 4mil fixed. Its in relation to Total GOLD received in the HOSTILITY Grind to pop a basic port at worst it will be 4mil 

[Hethwill]

Just now, Norfolk nChance said:

Nope 4mil fixed. Its in relation to Total GOLD received in the HOSTILITY Grind to pop a basic port at worst it will be 4mil 

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarification how the 4mil came to be. Makes sense now.

[IndianaGeoff]

11 hours ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

Normally I wouldn't post empty port battles but the interesting thing is these new BR's going to mess things up so much. They should of just did a few ports as test not all and some of the old ports that where big battles is going to be so limited on how many can get in.

If they won't defend, then roll them up.

[IndianaGeoff]

1 hour ago, Norfolk nChance said:

ATTACKER failing to turn up should be fined 4mil gold on the NEXT server downtime like the Town Management system

 

Or maybe undefended PBs will lower the hostility bar for the rest.

But then you would get token, throw away defenses.  Plus every now and then you toss ports you don't care about.

Edited November 3, 2017 by IndianaGeoff

[Norfolk nChance]

48 minutes ago, IndianaGeoff said:

Or maybe undefended PBs will lower the hostility bar for the rest.

But then you would get token, throw away defenses.  Plus every now and then you toss ports you don't care about.

thinking of keeping it simple. Aggressor Pays. The defender doesn't need the penalty. Think about attacking to ports at the same time on a small clan. Could bankrupt them.

 

Just a thought though all the same...

 

[Vizzini]

2 hours ago, Norfolk nChance said:

Nope 4mil fixed. Its in relation to Total GOLD received in the HOSTILITY Grind to pop a basic port at worst it will be 4mil 

Double it up.  Needs to penalize. Right now 4 mill would be like sticking your fingers up at those who turn up to defend

 

[Norfolk nChance]

Port Battle: La Navasse

Friday 3^rd November

 

Attackers:        GB Nation 6x [CKA] [GA] [ARMED] and [ELITE]

Defenders:       Pirates 7x [BLACK] [REV] and [VSCO]

BR Limit 2,400

Defenders won taking two circles for the Points victory.

We the attackers tried to “spoof” the pirates into thinking it was just me in a one man show. The previous GB attack was a no show on La Nav…. The Wind predicted would be going West to East. Dropped in on the EAST side near circle C. With the ENDY I tried to pull the pirates out of position against the wind or even make one or two leave early with just one opponent.

To the pirate’s credit @koiz [REV] kept them from the distraction and they held firm. JDs Santi and Koiz Buc remained in A while the rest spread out EAST ward.

The main GB forced entered perfectly far WEST and took B without resistance. They then moved onto A. I was supported by F4ppinFr3nzy [GA] later from behind the island pushing into C. He in a WASA and me in an ENDY came in for some good blocking work from Socialism and Govern both [VSCO] and follow up Pirate support.

The melee in A continued we had a guy drop out from IT problems, but even so it was a real scrap with GB losing a Bucc they lost a Renomee.

All in all, it was a good fight that didn’t start out that way. Hats off to the Pirates and a GF, we’ll get you next time…

 https://imgur.com/a/TkJ11

Norfolk nChance [ELITE]

 

Edited September 26, 2018 by Norfolk nChance

[Simon Cadete]

Man these new port battles look pathetic! As long as it works on pvp 1 is all that matters  anyway, right?!

[Hodo]

40 minutes ago, Simon Cadete said:

Man these new port battles look pathetic! As long as it works on pvp 1 is all that matters  anyway, right?!

They appear meager, but they are better for flexibility of the fleets.  And yeah as long as the Euros are happy screw everyone else.

[Kawazz]

2 hours ago, Simon Cadete said:

Man these new port battles look pathetic! As long as it works on pvp 1 is all that matters  anyway, right?!

Its actually better, the days of people kiting in battles is over. If you are in the battle you must fight be part of the team.

This was a lower BR battle so it was smaller. 2400 BR max for this one but for the larger ones you'll see more action.

 

[IndianaGeoff]

Koiz is right.  It is early in the BRPB era.  New tactics will be tried and learned from.  I am sure new levels and limits will be tried.  And it might prove to be a pile of crap that is dropped.

[Christendom]

Actually the days of kiting are back.  with a vengeance.  We successfully split and kited the GA 1st rates throughout Georgetown.  

Astonishingly easy victory.  We went in there with alts and bullshit ships.  

[Teutonic]

Looks as though you could have wrecked them too though with all those Wasas.

Simply put you had the better fleet in that pb anyway in my opinion.

 

[IndianaGeoff]

Yea, looks like 1st rates are heading to the boneyard.

[Custard]

We will only learn by trying.

The assessment by Chris is wrong, shooting at sails had nothing to do with it, we lost because we accumulated zero points because we didn't sink anything or get into the circles we didn't make it easy for our battle commander at all, personally I was shockingly bad. It was my idea to split the Vics and go after the Santi my bad I will try and keep my mouth shut next time.

Still was fun let's do it again  (if my lot let me)

 

[Christendom]

7 hours ago, Custard said:

We will only learn by trying.

The assessment by Chris is wrong, shooting at sails had nothing to do with it, we lost because we accumulated zero points because we didn't sink anything or get into the circles we didn't make it easy for our battle commander at all, personally I was shockingly bad. It was my idea to split the Vics and go after the Santi my bad I will try and keep my mouth shut next time.

Still was fun let's do it again  (if my lot let me)

 

While you guys might of snagged a vic of ours on the way over, it was a stupid mistake to reveal exactly what you were bringing to the PB.  You brought the beef to try and win the brawl.  We brought ships to maneuver around you.  My only regret is not letting you guys cap the bottom circle quick enough, we should have had another vic off you in there.  

The problem with the BR pbs, and I touched on this in the patch thread, is that there is zero incentive for the defender to want to engage in the brawl.  All we had to do was simply bring more ships and kite around while you racked up points.  In a port like Georgetown in 1st rates, the time it took for you to enter and sail down to the bottom circle or even the far right one was about as long as we needed to win on points.  It was almost a no win scenario for you.  The new changes make it too hard for the attacker to win I think, we'll see after the results from a busy sat on the EU and the FR VS BLACK PB tonight.

[Teutonic]

Port - port de paix (France vs. Pirates)

Br limit - 7,200

Outcome - pirates successfully defend

I heard from folks that it was an enjoyable battle. Relative even numbers with the pirates having slightly more BR. Hope to see more conflict and maybe the US and Brits will find their footing as well.

I was not at the battle so if someone from the battle wants to give a more detailed report, please do so.

Edited November 5, 2017 by Teutonic

[Raekur]

Also the thing that helped you Chris and shows that now the defender has the advantage is that you waited until the GB forces entered while you kept a few ships out of the battle and switched to larger ships then sent them in. This is going to be something that will be in favor of the defender now as sides try to deploy as many points as possible while trying to maintain an advantage of some sort. Should be interesting from here on out. I think new tactics will emerge as the battles are waged.

[Christendom]

Devastating night for the US.  

Pirates won the Islamabad PB.  Pretty good brawl.  US ignored the circles and went right for the sink.  We kited around to group up our guys, focused fired and won fairly easily.  Good fight though US.

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Then the real holocaust happened after the fight where the remnants of the shattered US Ocean fleet was trying to get back home.

They didn't make it. 

I'm also told a brit screening fleet was lost before the battle, don't know the details.  

Good fights to the US and Brits today, we managed to slam in a shit load of action for a smaller server.

Edited November 6, 2017 by Christendom

[Teutonic]

Updated Diplomacy to represent more closely what has been happening between nations in the past week or 2.

- Pirate Aggression seems to be on a downward trend in taking ports. OW PvP and PB defenses they are still going strong and showing they mean business

- US/Brit - Seem to continue the trend of taking ports that are neutral to expand their influence. some question if it's needed. They are also initiating port battles against the pirates more recently. Maybe PvP morale is rising?

- Dutch continue to take more ports, the aggressive act from Denmark seem to have subsided but who knows if the dutch have something planned to evict the vikings out.

- France is expanding influencing around New Orleans as well as attempting to take back Haiti. Reports from France states that Haiti is considered a core region and must be taken back against any who hold territory there.

- Denmark/Sweden are continuing their "slumber expansion" preferring to stay away from territory already claimed

-Prussia/Russia/Poland -- Reports say Prussia is content with the land they own, Russia has yet to send their navy to the Caribbean, and Poland is attempting to get to the Caribbean faster than Russia

[Teutonic]

Port De Paix - French vs Pirates

BR - 7,200

Outcome - Pirates successfully defend

AAR - France decided to form a line and try to stick with the line. Our plan was to focus on a couple enemy ships and then have Our Bucs finish them off. Being a weekday night not many people could make it with work tomorrow, but nonetheless it was enjoyable to have everyone show up. The pirates were able to capture and hold all 3 circles while France got hold up engaging the main pirate force, we were unable to maneuver in the channel and so had to give up on the circles which ultimately was part of our demise. In the grand scheme of things the outcome was realized after the first line "crash."

Battle ended with 2 French ships sunk and if it had lasted any longer it would have likely been 1-2 more.

Hope to have more in the near future.

Edited November 9, 2017 by Teutonic

[Teutonic]

Recent player changes in nations have caused a commotion. Will update the diplomacy on sunday

[Atreides]

George Town (In the Caymans)  GB attacking, Pirates defending  GB took the port

 

GB came into the port with primarily a Buc fleet, while the Pirates chose to defend with mostly Wasas.

Early in the battle the pirates found themselves with poor wind, while the bulk of GB waited until the closest fort could be taken while a small contingent went to take C.  The pirates sent a small force to contest C while the main forces looked at each other through their spyglasses and took sniping shots.  A n additional pirate Victory spawned in about the 20 minute mark and with A in firm pirate control the bulk of the defending fleet set out to smash the small British forces in C.  The British commander decided to split our forces to help our hearty mates in C, whilst with the forts being dealt with by our mortar brig expert enabled the rest of the British fleet to capture A.  A few pirates took the opportunity of a favourable wind shift to contest B from the small force left to hold it, so a few Bucs reversed course and sailed to buttress the defense of B.  Circle C found the Brits outgunned and they made a retreat from C with the loss of one Brit captain in a pirate frigate.  Over the next 20 minutes a few Pirate captains found themselves on the wrong end of relentless broadsides.  Some with their ships on fire they attempted to fireship a Brit but were unsuccessful, other bravely kept shooting till they joined the crew of ole Davy Jones. 

One of the Pirate Victorys decided to escape mid battle, possibly deciding to spare his crew as he waved to his brothers.  The game was deciding with points, overall the Pirates lost 4 Wasas, while the Brits lost one Pirate Frigate.  Great fight to all in the battle, tip of the hat to both the winners and losers.

 

[Teutonic]

Update:

not much has changed with Diplomacy although a few things

1. some Privateers seem to have been hired by the a French Lord who is unhappy with the current state of affairs in the Caribbean. Many French in the Caribbean Navy are unhappy that these new "hooligans" do not follow the code of conduct that is expected of all French sailors. It seems not being hired directly from the Navy creates issues when a private endeavor goes against the "norm."

2. British and US forces have been able to take back some land from the pirates, one wonders who these 2 nations will fight once a common enemy is gone.

3. the Antilles is now lighting up with a lot of groups who were previously docked have now sailed into action.

----Roleplay Off----

Whether the players who joined France were previously Pirates or not and I know we know some were pirates, I think getting salty over it is dumb. Why not enjoy the content? exploits are bannable, abusing mechanics is shitty. How about those who acuse the pirates of always exploiting and abusing not do it themselves? usually you don't fight "fire with fire" because it never ends well.

Edited November 13, 2017 by Teutonic