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AHOY EVERYONE! Ardent fan of the game, as well as ardent critic (which is what I imagine brings many of us to a place like this) Found this place a few days ago after talking to friends on the Drachinfel Discord, and had to immediately join up! :3 I want to start by saying, I am not a modder, sadly I wish I was one, but such skills have never been in my grasp. That said, I love the game, but more specifically, I love the age of the pre-dreadnoughts, when wacky designs were thick and plentiful, and battles were often close range brawls. When Battleships looked more like porcupines encrusted with guns pointing in every direction! Sadly.. the tie of the Pre-dread passes quickly.... and even with upgrades, Hulls go obsolete and fade from time... so..... I thought.. What if we changed this? BEHOLD! MY IDEA FOR AN ERA OF ETERNAL PRE-DREADS!!! 1: HULLS NEVER GO OBSOLETE Simple enough, old hulls never go away, and a design from 1890 can be built "brand new" in 1940 2: NO NEW HULLS PAST DREADNOUGHT-2 Naturally to preserve the very idea of "eternal Pre-dreads" the restriction of modern classes is required. The Dread-1 and Dread-2 would be the "Super Cap Ship" of this mod. late game it can take over two years to build a 'modern battleship'. Most pre-dreads can be built in 12 months or less depending on tech. 3: NO BATTLECRUISERS PERIORD Since BC's tend to start fairly large, and very quickly pass the size of early Dreads, their elimination would further cement the 'Eternal Pre-Dread' setting. 4: NO GUNS PAST MK-2 Once guns upgrade into Mk-3 or Mk-4, they tend to change into a 'modern' appearance. the square boxy shapes often make them incompatible with most pre-dread mounts, especially those on French and Russian warships. Ideally this would be for guns from 5 inches on up, as smaller guns get the condensed 3 and 4 barrel upgrades. 5: TORP RANGES DRASTICALLY REDUCED Clearly to prevent the AI from going hard Torp Spam, and keeping your ships destroyed by Torps from they can't even See.... Top Ranges would be deeply nerfed. 6: POSSIBLE SUPER VERSION OF PRE-DREAD SHIPS A friend of mine who IS a modder, and loves doing silly stuff, made a couple "super" versions of some French pre-dreads. An idea for still offering much large Hull designs for 1920, 30 and 40, would be modified hulls from the Pre-Dreads.

P.O.T.B.S. EST 2002 Naval Action EST 2016 SL.RN. G o d S a v e t h e K i n g ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to the forum page of the Sea Lords Royal Navy [SLRN] and thank you for your interest in our illustrious group. We are the Oldest Serving Clan Fighting for Great Britain in Naval Action. Our roots are Embedded in the British Nation and are unfaltering in our dedication to His Majesties Royal Navy. We are a rapidly growing band of like minded individuals of varying experience and expertise, (age and in-game) who like to indulge in a little light role playing in a friendly, disciplined and co-operative environment and blowing the enemy to hell and back! A lack of experience is no barrier to joining! We are happy to assist you to become one of the many finest Captains on the Great and Narrow seas! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How to Take up the KINGS Shilling? Sail with us, and conduct yourself with Civility, Honour and Grace. Upon approval of a Sponsor, you will click the HERE and fill out an application! (Full recruitment guide is HERE) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Royal British OAK that Sail Under't;

When i happened upon Naval Action, I was ecstatic, I love age of sail games and all of the fun from bringing a full broadside of guns to bear to going toe to toe on deck of boarding to hammering/getting hammered by a city port or fort, when i joined i loved all of it, the beauty, the semi realism, the semi true sailing, and all that. now that being said the pvp is a little over kill, its great and all but really annoying when people just camp outside the capital for new players just to get their pvp marks and getting those marks gives them an almost unbreakable edge over anyone without. so here are some suggestions that might make all happy and would be willing to actually discuss things in farther if warranted. 1. first off to the pvp thing, make it so if you are in the capital port (Charleston for US) that you get capital class ships to protect you (I.E. 3 - 1 st rates depending on strength of enemy). everywhere else, unless you are tagged by a capital ship you only get up to a 4th rate and it matches the strength of the attacking ship. 2. now adding to the historical aspect that would really put a fun twist to the game and give you a little more national pride. Players can only CRAFT ships of their country (US gets the Connie and other US based ships) and ai fleets will only spawn with their nations ships (spain wouldn't spawn with a connie) and by ships of their country i mean the country that originally built the ship. - note give ALL nations a baseline ships for example: 7th rate - Cutter, sloops 6th rate - brig, schooner 5th rate - frigate 4th rate through 1st rate - ships of the line now the 4th rate would have about 50 guns with a crew of about 400(max) 3rd rate would have around 74 guns or less with a crew around 650(max) 2nd rate would have around 80 - 90 guns with crew around 800(max) 1st rate would have about 100 guns with crew of around 1000(max) from there you add in your l'oceans, essexs, and all the other ships/ ship types would be nation dependent. 3. PVP marks, #2 would factor heavily into this category, your pvp marks instead of giving game breaking upgrades instead, give out notes for ships of different nations but instead of making it 15 marks make it harder to get certain ships for example: 7th rate - 10 marks 6th rate - 15 - 20 marks 5th rate - 40 - 50 marks 4th - 50 - 75 marks 3rd - 75 - 100 marks 2nd - 100 - 125 marks 1st - 150 marks but on the side note make it so these notes could not be used to craft one out White oak, teak, or live oak. 4. Both of those now would make this possible and give the ability to capture 4 - 1st rates again because you would have to try to capture other nations ships from AI but make the AI fleets to spawn in out of really crappy material so that capturing them isnt necessarily a big win. Overall I feel this would help greatly in bringing your game population back up, adding new players because there isn't so much seal clubbing but you can get respectable pvp action outside of the capital harbours. it would also give a new feel to the game because Port battles would have to be won by the skill of the nation using their ships or stolen ships and you would have to plan around your nations strengths. now it would be easy to navigate around this feat simply by having multiple alts in different nations, but to counter it and make it a little more challenging and rare to see a quality 1st rate or 2nd rate (instead of 50 WO/LO or similar in a port battle) make them a little more difficult to craft something of that caliber like i said this is observations that i have seen while playing and i feel that all the player base would enjoy these updates and would bring your population up greatly as well, and like i said if you would like to discuss this more, i would be happy to in teamspeak or discord or just through email, and anything i could do to help this i would

Dear Devs, PLEASE change the running system of inter-dependent ship XP gaining, because of the following reasons (anybody else who thinks the same please add other reasons you have): 1. For me it's a massive "fun-killer" in this game to grind XP on lots of ships i don't want to sail, just to get the upgrade slots to the maximum on vessels i would really like to sail! 2. For me it's a massive "time-killer" too - Naval Action takes time, yes, but on the contrary to trading and so on, this grinding for XP feels useless and boring to me. 3. If you play Naval Action - for a certain amount of time - you have to sail in smaller ships or ships you propably won't use again later on. Everyone has (had) these time, that's ok. But the current inter-dependent XP system prolongs this period artificially in such an extreme way that it feels everything else but ok. 4. The grindig in it's current state can't be supported by historical data: Back in the days, to become captain of a ship of the frigate-class for example, noone would have had to sail every differnt kind of lower classified vessel. AND if someone has already been captain of a certain frigate he wouldn't have to sail a lower classified ship again just to be able to get the command of a frigate different to the one he sailed at his last command. Because of these reasons please abolish or at least change that system! You could change it like this for example: A. Make it easyser, better fitting to historical data and much less a grind, if you change it, so that everybody needs just to sail a random ship of one tier to be able to get every ship of the next tier to maximum upgrad slots. For example: If one sails a cutter, lynx or other 7th rate to the maximum amount of freed upgrade slots, he / she would be able to do so with every 6th rate and so on. B. If you want people to sail small ships open areas where they just could sail 7th rates because of extreme shallow waters (someone else has already mentioned this idea in the forums i think) and abolish that whole system of inter-dependent ship XP. I really like Naval Action but in this particular case i beg you: Please take ACTION to make it a LOT better!

Well, is sad to see that you are adding russians ships to this game but we have only one spanish ship. I like St.Pavel and The new 3rd rate (dont remember the name) but come on guys. This game is set in the carribean between 1775 and 1815 and we only have one spanish ship. Spain was a huge naval force in the 18 century (and i don´t speak about 17th) and we have only 1 ship, we have 2-3 british ships 3 french ships and 3 USA ships and 3 russian ships, i think that russian ships dont make sense. Spanish, british, Dutch and french ships should be the priority in development not for my personal idea, just for some historical issue. I add some sugestions Santa Ana 1st rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_Santa_Ana_(1784) Rayo or Fenix 2nd rate https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayo_(1751) https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_F%C3%A9nix Bahama 3rd Rate. https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahama Glorioso 3rd rate. Read his Story https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_the_Glorioso I don´t add smal ships because you have some posts in forum so, youn know them. Another suggestion I think that for long time development each faction should have one ship of each class and be only able to craft by the faction members. But, for instance if a british or french or dutch player captures a Santissima and destroy it in harbour, will get the BP . In that way we all can sail all the ships but it will give the game more histórical inmersion. For Factions that dont have 1rst or 2nd rates you can add a Russian Generic one. For pirates, is anti-historical have ships of the line and even being a country but maybe their crews should have exceptional marines and boarding axes without upgrades, added as Extra crew, that don´t affect the gunnery, so pirates can capture ships and get BP too. of course this marines bonus is just until rank 5 or 4. (more will be OP) So guys please tell me your point of view and please made a list like mine of brits, french, dutch... ships

Hi, I am very interested in the development of the shape of a ship hull between 1600-1800. I have been searching the internet but cant seem to find what i want. I will sum up some question and i hope someone can help me. Wouldnt it be interesting to discuss this topic? 1. How did the shape of the bow, hull and stern develop in this period? 2. What are the most common design for ships in that period? and not just for ship of the line or frigates but for all open water vessels. 3. What does i certain shape mean for the perfomance? What are the advantages and disadvantage of certain designs? I hope this will start a discussion, because i cant be the only one interested in this.

Gentlemen, Our ships are overgunned compared to the historical loadouts the captains of the time used. Currently, the game uses the “if it fits, it sits” mentality in regards to armaments. However, the captains of time certainly did not. Take captain Hull for example. First thing he did was to get rid of long 18-pounder battery on USS Constitution as soon as there was a lighter carronade replacement available. Why did he and other captains of the time generally used lighter armaments that were technically possible on their ships? Answers I found could be summarized as follows: Less crew – On a smaller sized ship (think frigate), it actually got logistically quite difficult to carry complement that would be able to man all the guns, if all the guns were long guns Performance – The ships speed, heel and manoeuvrability was heavily influenced by the armament as the carronades were third or a quarter of the weight of the long cannon of the same ball weight. Damage to the ship itself – As evidenced by the French ships (which tended to use the “if it fits it sits” mentality at some points) that were captured by the Brits and underwent their general repairs, they were in considerably worse shape than their not overgunned counterparts. If you compare the forces that are applied on the ship when firing 12 pounder and 18 pounder, the increase is exponential. You fire heavier shell, which is going faster from a heavier gun. How to address this in the game and thus impose realistic armaments while keeping in the ability to choose the loadout? Here are my proposals: 1. Crew capacity is based on the hull, but the requirement is based on the guns. I.e. USS Constitution can carry 450 men, while each 24 pounder requires 12 men, 18 pounder requires 10 men, while 32 pound carronade requires 5 men. Therefore 30 * 24 lbs + 24 * 18lbs = 600 men, therefore the ships is crewed only as 75% and suffers those penalties. However 30*24lbs + 24*32lbscar= 480 men, therefore she is crewed as 93.75% and suffers less penalties. 2. Make the speed, heel and turn more dependent on the gun and where are they placed. This means get rid of speed mods and present large difference based on the built wood type. The subtle gun type effect gets overshadowed quite heavily by the +5% speed overall, so either get rid of that, or get rid of that and make gun, ballast distribution, trimming and fiddling with ship part of the game :-). 3. Firing heavier guns than was historically correct for the vessel will damage the ship overtime as a random leak (not an armour decrease), with each shot fired, compounded by the built wood type. I.e.: Oak Belle Poule with 12 lbs (as she was built) has a chance of 0.1% for a random leak. Fir Belle Poule 12lbs has a 1% random leak chance. Oak Belle Poule with 18lbs has a 3% random leak chance. Fir Belle Poule with 18lbs has a 30% random leak chance. (The numbers should of course be adjusted, however the idea that overgunned ship built from low quality wood should be almost guaranteed to have random leaks during engagement should be preserved.)

I came across this website while making some general searching and thought it was well worth posting here, Amongst others you can find data on National Strength lists Cannon Range 32 & 18 pdr Order of Battles, Trafalgar Nile etc An awful lot more useful and interesting information too. Well worth a read for the discerning historian and enthusiast http://www.napoleonguide.com/navyind.htm Enjoy.