What's coming next (v1.06) *UPDATE 28/5/2022*

[Shiki]

23 minutes ago, Skeksis said:

If you’re so unhappy with 58 new hulls, why do you even bother posting, is it to troll?

But it's not "58 new hulls", nor is it particularly time-intensive. It's changing numbers on a datasheet - or copy-pasting them from another hull - and putting new attachment points on. It's tedium, nothing more. It's 58 copy-pasted hulls of varying sizes that use copy-pasted statistics. I fail to see why I should shill for this team, as you do, when they have done very little worth shilling for.

[Danz_Von_Luck]

1 hour ago, Shiki said:

But it's not "58 new hulls", nor is it particularly time-intensive. It's changing numbers on a datasheet - or copy-pasting them from another hull - and putting new attachment points on. It's tedium, nothing more. It's 58 copy-pasted hulls of varying sizes that use copy-pasted statistics. I fail to see why I should shill for this team, as you do, when they have done very little worth shilling for.

Well if its that easy why don't you make your own game and then you have nothing to complain about

[Shiki]

8 minutes ago, Danz_Von_Luck said:

Well if its that easy why don't you make your own game and then you have nothing to complain about

It's funny you should mention that, because I and a few others got so fed up with UA:D that we... are...

[Werwaz]

On 5/13/2022 at 1:53 PM, Nick Thomadis said:

Hello guys,
We need more time to finish the first beta. The main features are mostly complete. The campaign still needs some time, but for a beta we can surely offer it next week, as it seems. A changelog will be offered tomorrow.
 

Has been almost two weeks...

Is the beta still coming anytime soon?

Or are there still major bugs that need ironing out?

Either way, it'd be nice to have some more communication, especially if promised delivery dates are missed.

[Danz_Von_Luck]

1 hour ago, Shiki said:

It's funny you should mention that, because I and a few others got so fed up with UA:D that we... are...

Well if that's the case then I genuinely offer you all the best for that

[Käptn_Flitschauge]

Need....update....

*Slowly dies from accute withdrawal*

[Nagato]

7 hours ago, Werwaz said:

Has been almost two weeks...

Is the beta still coming anytime soon?

Or are there still major bugs that need ironing out?

Either way, it'd be nice to have some more communication, especially if promised delivery dates are missed.

Indeed, and so far no any kind of news from devs. As you say it would be good if they communicate with us little bit more so that we know what is the status of the 1.06.

[Zuikaku]

Well, there is war going on where the devs are. Maybe there is no power there. Just hope they are not drafted and are all safe.

[Nagato]

26 minutes ago, Zuikaku said:

Well, there is war going on where the devs are. Maybe there is no power there. Just hope they are not drafted and are all safe.

Yes, we are very aware of war in Ukraine. They were based in Kyiv and Kyiv is safe for now at least. Still that there is no news in two weeks? It's a bit odd.

[kineuhansen]

hope we get some news soon its was update a few days ago cant waith to play the long campaign

[LoSboccacc]

10 minutes ago, kineuhansen said:

hope we get some news soon its was update a few days ago cant waith to play the long campaign

and the new citadel/armor mechanics, they will make a lot of historical "tradeoff" design handle better in game. if we could get treaties for 1.07 it'd be perfect, but 1.06 as described would already surpass my expectations from when I backed this game, can't wait to get it

[Nick Thomadis]

Hello all,
This week we have been fixing many bugs so that we can provide the first beta in a playable state for you. The campaign state should be fixed tomorrow, we will try to repair its current issues, so you can start playing it, and we will fix the rest during the beta process. Tomorrow we will inform you what will be possible. Thank you very much for your patience.

[Toby]

8 minutes ago, Nick Thomadis said:

Hello all,
This week we have been fixing many bugs so that we can provide the first beta in a playable state for you. The campaign state should be fixed tomorrow, we will try to repair its current issues, so you can start playing it, and we will fix the rest during the beta process. Tomorrow we will inform you what will be possible. Thank you very much for your patience.

thank you nick for the update. we expect you would use the beta period to fix issues and bugs hence its a beta update. i hope the team and yourself are safe and that your families as far aas possible are safe?

[o Barão]

48 minutes ago, Nick Thomadis said:

Hello all,
This week we have been fixing many bugs so that we can provide the first beta in a playable state for you. The campaign state should be fixed tomorrow, we will try to repair its current issues, so you can start playing it, and we will fix the rest during the beta process. Tomorrow we will inform you what will be possible. Thank you very much for your patience.

Thank you, Nick, for the update.😉✌️

[baltic1284]

2 hours ago, Nick Thomadis said:

Hello all,
This week we have been fixing many bugs so that we can provide the first beta in a playable state for you. The campaign state should be fixed tomorrow, we will try to repair its current issues, so you can start playing it, and we will fix the rest during the beta process. Tomorrow we will inform you what will be possible. Thank you very much for your patience.

Lets get this test going also what new hulls will be added other than the French BB you already stated

[Nagato]

7 hours ago, Nick Thomadis said:

Hello all,
This week we have been fixing many bugs so that we can provide the first beta in a playable state for you. The campaign state should be fixed tomorrow, we will try to repair its current issues, so you can start playing it, and we will fix the rest during the beta process. Tomorrow we will inform you what will be possible. Thank you very much for your patience.

Thank you Nick for update. Hope you and rest of team and families are safe.

[kineuhansen]

any idea of when the first beta should release

[Littorio]

On 5/23/2022 at 5:51 PM, Shiki said:

I would like to hold this up with a "but": Japanese cruiser- and battleship-launched floatplanes regularly undertook ASW missions and bombing missions, and were equipped to do so as part of their role. Artillery spotting and scouting are the cream of the job but it's important to note that these things did happen, and happened relatively often- particularly when carriers weren't available or otherwise occupied, and land-based aircraft were out of reach.

Do you have any good sources on IJN floatplane use? I know they used them more frequently than other navies in general, but not specifically for ASW work. This strikes me as odd because USN sub doctrine was to primarily target Japanese merchants, the exact opposite of IJN submarines which focused on warships. USN subs shouldn't have been near large fleet units too often, with notable exceptions like Midway, etc. It just seems odd that ship-launched floatplanes could be expected to have many operational uses as ASW assets. I know they used coastal flying boats like the H6K and H8K far more often as they had very long range and endurance, and could carry a proper ASW loadout, providing cover for the battle fleet.

Edited May 27, 2022 by Littorio

[o Barão]

3 hours ago, Littorio said:

but not specifically for ASW work.

"One 250kg (551 lb) bomb, four 60kg (132lb) bombs, or depth charges"

" It also was sometimes equipped with Type 6 radar or with the Jikitanchiki magnetic anomaly detector for use against submarines. The Jikitanchiki was not very sensitive, requiring the plane to fly no more than 40 feet above the surface."

http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/E/1/E13A_Jake.htm

They could be used for the ASW role. How good they were doing this, I have no idea. I am using the Jake here as reference since it is the most famous japanese floatplane from WWII, however others floatplanes, also had the option to carry depth charges.

Edited May 27, 2022 by o Barão

[Jans]

What do I have to do to play the next beta? I bought the game years ago out of steam but it was said lately that any further update will be published on stean only...

[Shiki]

2 hours ago, Littorio said:

Do you have any good sources on IJN floatplane use? I know they used them more frequently than other navies in general, but not specifically for ASW work. This strikes me as odd because USN sub doctrine was to primarily target Japanese merchants, the exact opposite of IJN submarines which focused on warships. USN subs shouldn't have been near large fleet units too often, with notable exceptions like Midway, etc. It just seems odd that ship-launched floatplanes could be expected to have many operational uses as ASW assets. I know they used coastal flying boats like the H6K and H8K far more often as they had very long range and endurance, and could carry a proper ASW loadout, providing cover for the battle fleet.

Both Japanese Cruisers of the Pacific War and the tabular records of movement of the Imperial Japanese Navy's fleet assets mention it, the former with doctrine/usage and the latter with actual deployment. The focus with the floatplanes was on scouting: the carriers didn't carry any scout aircraft or dual-purpose scout/attack units, so the accompanying cruisers were given that role. However, Japanese cruisers consistently ran ASW patrols with their floatplanes when assigned to area fleets and the former book also includes a specific reference to Takao and Maya assisting the airstrikes on the Aleutians during the MI operation (invasion of Midway & a diversionary attack on Kiska) with their floatplanes acting as light bombers, specifically the two-seater Type 95s.

[baltic1284]

4 hours ago, Littorio said:

Do you have any good sources on IJN floatplane use? I know they used them more frequently than other navies in general, but not specifically for ASW work. This strikes me as odd because USN sub doctrine was to primarily target Japanese merchants, the exact opposite of IJN submarines which focused on warships. USN subs shouldn't have been near large fleet units too often, with notable exceptions like Midway, etc. It just seems odd that ship-launched floatplanes could be expected to have many operational uses as ASW assets. I know they used coastal flying boats like the H6K and H8K far more often as they had very long range and endurance, and could carry a proper ASW loadout, providing cover for the battle fleet.

Even the US used Float planes for ASW work during the second world war the Curtiss SC Seahawk could carry 2 325lb bombs on the SC-1 when it was improved to the SC-2 it could carry then two aerial depth charges and could fly at night for its time with limitations of that time. The Vought OS2U Kingfisher was in much the same realm except the load weight, and it couldn't fly at night with any of her models and improvements and could carry a single 650lb bomb or aerial depth charge, so yes floatplanes were used for ASW in the US Navy. As for the Japanese Navy was much the same but fewer models mainly the N1K1 Rex float plane built off the Shinden fighter was used for it as it could carry 2 550ib bombs or equal weight depth charge, the M6A was also another float plane that could carry either a single Type 91 torpedo or again 2 550 pound bomb and depth charges or the Eichi E16A could carry a single 550lb pound or depth charge and the Eichi E13A could carry the same as the E16A. 

Although Japan didn't really use float planes too much for ASW use the floatplanes themselves where capable of doing it you have to take into account that in the Japanese military at that time submarines were used for scout missions and anti-warship use, it was also in the Japanese military training that a Destroyer Escort was best used for ASW use even though Japan didn't have many classes of DEs at that time. But even early on Japan was one of the few nations at that time to include England that used Floatplanes for ASW and saw its potential but other factors played into the down play of it more due to who was in charge of the nations military which at that time was the Japanese Army.

[Danz_Von_Luck]

British warships certainly battleships often carried a mix of reconnaissance (mainly the Supermarine Walrus) and attack floatplanes (mainly the Fairey Swordfish) and in fact HMS Warspite's Swordfish floatplane during the battles around Norway sank U-64 - it was actually the first aircraft in the war to sink a U-Boat. So ASW was unquestionably a role the floatplanes were used for

[Himbeereule]

Is there any chance we'll get individual ship renaming in one of the next updates? It would be a simple yet very effective QoL improvement

[Danz_Von_Luck]

57 minutes ago, Terka1917 said:

Is there any chance we'll get individual ship renaming in one of the next updates? It would be a simple yet very effective QoL improvement

You can already rename ships, only instance where I don't think you can is if u make more than 1 of a class in quick battles you can name the leader only I think in campaign you can name all ships