Sir William Hargood Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) A more traditional Royal Navy paint scheme before the adoption of the Nelson Chequer: Edited October 27, 2017 by Sir William Hargood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) This ship : (Rattle) with this paint scheme : (L'Hermione) (with blue azure as on L'Hermione or instead plain black on the tafferel) to end with something like that : Edited December 31, 2018 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 "Rouge Noir" for Le Requin, please. Maybe more gold, red and black than in the picture even. @admin My wallet is ready, almighty sea god. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) Le Requin = Paint schème of the historical ship model of Le Requin (or L'Indiscret, her sister ship) that was made at the same time as both ships (1750). Colors : black, brown, red ochre, gold (sculpture) Model displayed at the Naval Museum with several pics (details) here. The sails could be all white (as above) or even better, two white and one red ochre as below : PS : differences in the colors (ocre, white...) of the sails was a way to recognize a known ship at sea. Edited March 23, 2019 by LeBoiteux 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptiste Gallouédec Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) Now that the dlc painter have been released, here is the list of ships with no paint options: -cutter - privateer - trader lynx/lynx - trader brig/brig - snow/t-snow -Surprise - frigate /p-frigate - hercules - le requin - Endymion - Indefatigable - Hermione - (Cerberus would benefit better ones too) - Indiaman - Le gros ventre -Aggamemnon - 3rd rate - Ocean All those ships would benefit from having at least 3 choices: black with white stripe, black with wood stripe, black with red stripe. Then maybe we can talk about original ones like pink stripes, the red & black wih thin white stripe (ala Santa Cecilia my favorite) , white + grey + thin red stripe ala Wasa, Swede blue & wood, French (hermione scheme), Brest harbour, Black with thin white stripe & thin red line (ala lgv refit) & other black&wood variants. I've bought the dlc for support, but now that most of the ships benefiting from paints dlc are behind rng permits, i think including the non-permits ones should be a priority. Edited March 25, 2019 by Baptiste Gallouédec 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 @Baptiste Gallouédec Hoping these ships will get something too. I guess it takes time and work... Not sure every ship will get an additional paint. I don't know whether or not you read this additional hint : On 3/21/2019 at 12:56 PM, admin said: there are 49 approved paints (they are in paint chest - that drops from the treasure fleet event). In total there is currently around 100+ additional unapproved paints. almost all or all will get to DLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) For Le Requin Paint scheme of the Corsican Xebec 'La Galeotta' Xebec of the Corsican navy sailed by Captain Peri, offered by the Order of Malta in 1754 (during the Revolution for independence from Genoa).Then Corsica was handed over to France in 1768. source Edited March 28, 2019 by LeBoiteux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuckle the 3rd Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 would love to see that paint for the wapen von hamburg in the game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus MacDuff Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Shuckle the 3rd said: would love to see that paint for the wapen von hamburg in the game Why you wanna dress up that old tart?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuckle the 3rd Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said: Why you wanna dress up that old tart?? because she deserves it :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) For La Renommée Paint scheme of a French Corvette/light frigate of the 18th century Painting of the quays at Bordeaux (France). (Thus the 'Bordeaux paint scheme' ?) = a kind of faded, washed-out version of the Vanilla paint scheme of in-game La Renommée, but with : a French arming cloth (pavois) : blue canvas studded with yellow fleurs de lys and framed with stripes that look yellow but might be white (according to a law of 1670) a brighter red-ochre colour on the desks red-ochre on the masts window frames in yellow/gold : Edited April 2, 2019 by LeBoiteux with info found in various posts below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Pretty sure that the blue stripe with the fleur de lis is painted canvas, I think the English name is arming cloth (the british version was red with a thin white stripe). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 9 hours ago, Malachi said: Pretty sure that the blue stripe with the fleur de lis is painted canvas, I think the English name is arming cloth (the british version was red with a thin white stripe). Do you really mean by "painted canvas" that it was painted on a long canvas by a painter then fixed all around the ship ? Or was it an embroidered cloth ? By 'arming cloth" , you mean a cloth (?) depicting the Arms of a nation (fleur de lys for France on blue, red and white stripes for UK), right ? When was the ship 'dressed with this 'cloth' ? Only on occasions, right ? One can see on this very painting that this ship carries : une flamme de guerre : le grand pavillon de poupe : As a consequence, under this cloth, the topsides were certainly black (or say grey if one wants them a bit more faded), right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuckle the 3rd Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) somethinlike that would be awesome for vic or probably some 2nd rates too just wood, some black paint and a ton of gold ;D Edited March 29, 2019 by Shuckle the 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) On 3/29/2019 at 8:02 AM, LeBoiteux said: Do you really mean by "painted canvas" that it was painted on a long canvas by a painter then fixed all around the ship ? Canvas = same material the sails are made of These arming cloths (or 'fights') were the precursor of the hammock netting, in use until the middle of the 18th century. The pic you posted is the only one I know where french arming cloths are depicted. Here is the british version, red with a thin white border: Boscawen (ex-La Medée), 1752 'Resolution in a Gale', Van de Velde, ca. 1678 Edited April 5, 2019 by Malachi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagram Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Malachi said: The pic you posted is the only one I know where french arming cloths are depicted. Keep searching, you'll find more, e.g. here... La Ville de Paris (along quarter deck only): Le Terrible (Fleurs de lys painted over - like the flags - during the Revolution): https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b550024054/f1.item.r=le%20terrible%20vaisseau.zoom Originally, it looked like that (bad quality picture only, sorry): https://www.google.ch/search?q=le+terrible+vaisseau+110&tbm=isch&source=hp&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiVw7-Yg6jhAhUHsaQKHeALDiEQsAR6BAgIEAE&biw=1178&bih=622#imgrc=I_QoNAWTzjTBZM: Edited March 29, 2019 by Wagram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Thanks, Wagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Found another one with french arming cloths. Sexeeey: Battle of St. Kitts Another pretty nice paint scheme: White Quarterdeck barricades. Looks good on the Royal Sovereign 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) So, about the blue painting on the upper parts of the topsides of L'Hermione I framed in red : Is it a kind of modern mistake, a painted representation of what was in fact at that time a French arming cloth ? or was this very paint really used there at that time, maybe to look like/replace/fake an arming cloth ? Edited March 30, 2019 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) Drawing made in 1673 of a French ship with the same decoration of Fleur-de-lys on upper-works as on the 18th century light frigate above : source : here Edited March 30, 2019 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagram Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, LeBoiteux said: So, about the blue painting on the upper parts of the topsides of L'Hermione I framed in red : Is it a kind of modern mistake, a painted representation of what was in fact at that time a French arming cloth ? or was this very paint really used there at that time, maybe to look like/replace/fake an arming cloth ? Hardly a mistake, in my opinion, as it was quite the habit to paint the upper parts of the hull wall in a different/emblematic colour, and certainly not intended to fake or replace arming cloths. As far as I can see arming cloths - of both decorative and, to some extent, protective value -were mainly used to cover open railings, apparently often repeating the paint scheme of the upper walls. Lavish extra decoration of the upper wall with fleurs de lys was no longer the fashion in the later 18th century (and probably deemed too costly as well), so they usually were omitted on the ship's wall but, evidently, not (always) on the arming cloths which, after all, were moveable items, easily stowed and reusable on any vessel. Edited March 31, 2019 by Wagram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) @Wagram Thx very much for this convincing and meticulous explanation (as always). 🙂 (edit) Arming cloth that could be with or without fleur de lys, depending on the political regime (monarchy, revolution-empire, restoration), I guess ? What is the French word(s) for "arming cloth' ? Edited March 31, 2019 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagram Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, LeBoiteux said: What is the French word(s) for "arming cloth' ? Pavois https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavois_(marine) An 18th century source (p.102, s.v. pavois and pavoiser): https://books.google.ch/books?id=lKoWAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=aune+de+pavois&source=bl&ots=wOUOtSV1UN&sig=ACfU3U0On77gFQo_JTwqZbkRTeKmdEc3_g&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwix5bCKwqzhAhVLvxoKHSXmBX0Q6AEwAHoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=pavois&f=false Edited March 31, 2019 by Wagram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagram Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 More French ships with "pavois fleurdelisés": https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Naval_manoeuvres_toulon_1777_img_9379.jpg https://troisponts.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/commerce-de-marseille-2.jpg and, again: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Vaisseau_de_guerre_fran%C3%A7ais_de_80_canons_pavois%C3%A9_en_1814.jpg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomasso il Fortunato Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Those could be nice paints for Ocean . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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