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I would like to report Pina Colada from Thorn clan for kitting.  He tagged me and just stayed at a distance on his prince tagging my sails making me waste my time without engaging even though I gave him the option to fight or leave.

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3 minutes ago, TheLoneWolf said:

I would like to report Pina Colada from Thorn clan for kitting.  He tagged me and just stayed at a distance on his prince tagging my sails making me waste my time without engaging even though I gave him the option to fight or leave.

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lol :blink::D

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I hate what he is doing but when someone does this to me I wonder what the difference between griefing and screening? 

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Always two sides of a story it seems, if you are the one who was hunting Pina Colada and he tagged you it's different story.

I was under the impression he was hunting and attacking you...

 

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He attacked and tagged me.   I have no problem in fighting but enduring 40 minutes of at a distance sniping sails is problematic.  He never fired at my hull and I gave him the opportunity to run or fight.  I did not pursue him when he shot sails.   He would move away at a distance and keep shooting sails.  The sniping and time waste is the  issue with what he did. 

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you are in a rattlesnake have you tried to sail 180° or 175°?

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I only kite to repair, or if I am tying up an enemy as a distraction to allow someone to go by the battle.  Perhaps he was doing the 2nd?

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What i dont get is how could he keep you tagged for 40mins.  When will people stop to run at 135°? ofc its the best point of sail but not if you compare it to the other ship. image.png.f65e2c146466dd83def8489498119eb1.png

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I had a live oak white oak bridgetown heavy rattle. He was probably fir or bermuda.  So he had speed advantage.  Also, he only shot sails and repeated it after I repaired sails so my sails were not at 100%.  Also hrattle does not have stern chasers so he just keeps shooting sails from a distance.  Just to be clear, I was not trying to run and sailed towards him to engage. After 20 minutes of distance kitting I got fed up and sailed away just to have him repeat the distance kitting.  He sailed away after 40 minutes without even having fired at my hull.  Just endless hitting of sails from a far distance.   

The point is that players should not be permitted to kite your sails for 40 minutes just to be annoying.  If you want to fight, then fight, if you want to run then run.  But staying at a far distance and only shooting sails for 40 minutes is an issue.

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Kind of hard to actually set a rule for that though. Where do you draw the line between kiting to waste time and kiting as  a strategic part of the battle?.

 

 

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Pina Colada is a known griefer, he chains to death in every battle and never fights. He likes tagging you many times after battle and following. As experienced player I know how to get away from him, but it's annoying and time wasting. @Wyy @EliteDelta and many other players to mark in this topic to share their experience with Pina Colada.

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Just now, Liang Dao Ming said:

Ganking/griefing.. same shit.

 

Part of game.

 

Get over it.

Ganking is one issue, griefing is another and it's not same shit. If I want to, I can keep you in a fight for 10h and you can't do shit to me. Do you want this? I will do it to you next time I see you.

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Personally I don't have an issue with the tactic - he tagged me yesterday, we had a nice little tactical battle at range and then both left with a gg. Either use the next battle as practice for hiding your sails, don't sail a slow ship solo or just surrender next time - you always have an option to leave the battle.

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5 minutes ago, Liang Dao Ming said:

No you can't.

 

As always you are full of shit Banished, and such a carebear.

 

Wipe those salty tears and get over it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

If he has a faster ship that you cannot catch. He can keep you in battle till the end. This shit has happened to me and it is unbelievably annoying. Regardless of your personal issues with Banished he is right.

 

42 minutes ago, Liang Dao Ming said:

Kind of hard to actually set a rule for that though. Where do you draw the line between kiting to waste time and kiting as  a strategic part of the battle?.

 

 

When he keeps you in battle with no intention of killing you and then re tags you after the battle time has expired to do it all again. He is griefing.

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Yes sometimes I use fir-fir garbage, when I sail alone. You should try sailing alone in tanked out ships see how far you will get.

You changed ship to one good for chasing cowards?, you're not even the one who caught me.

 

I said good luck, and luck was with you as i went into shallows. Had nothing to do with you.

 

I know you consider yourself the ultimate badass of naval action, and maybe you are. 

 

But you are also a very salty badass.

 

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1 minute ago, RedNeckMilkMan said:

If he has a faster ship that you cannot catch. He can keep you in battle till the end. This shit has happened to me and it is unbelievably annoying. Regardless of your personal issues with Banished he is right.

 

When he keeps you in battle with no intention of killing you and then re tags you after the battle time has expired to do it all again. He is griefing.

Not for 10 hours.

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5 minutes ago, Fellvred said:

Personally I don't have an issue with the tactic - he tagged me yesterday, we had a nice little tactical battle at range and then both left with a gg. Either use the next battle as practice for hiding your sails, don't sail a slow ship solo or just surrender next time - you always have an option to leave the battle.

So your solution to griefing is to reward them?

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1 minute ago, Liang Dao Ming said:

Not for 10 hours.

hy·per·bo·le
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  1. exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
     
    Though, if no help came for you, it would be possible to pull numerous tags against a lone ship and keep them tagged for the duration of the fight. Rinse repeat.
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1 minute ago, RedNeckMilkMan said:

So your solution to griefing is to reward them?

Reward them?.

 

Yes, give them 100 pvp marks and 10 mill.

 

I think that's what I am on about here...

 

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1 minute ago, Liang Dao Ming said:

Yes sometimes I use fir-fir garbage, when I sail alone. You should try sailing alone in tanked out ships see how far you will get.

You changed ship to one good for chasing cowards?, you're not even the one who caught me.

 

I said good luck, and luck was with you as i went into shallows. Had nothing to do with you.

 

I know you consider yourself the ultimate badass of naval action, and maybe you are. 

 

But you are also a very salty badass.

 

Salty about what? I don't consider myself a badass, I sink many times every week. I used both super tanky slow and super fast ships for solo hunting, different play styles and both can work just fine, ask Pipalanoix, Reverse or Ram Dinark. My rattlesnake got to you in battle, that was the goal. OW tag was irrelevant. It's your fault you got "ganked", you had a chance for a fair battle, you didn't take it.

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3 minutes ago, Liang Dao Ming said:

Now stop picking on Pina Colada, grief or not not reason to "round" up a mob on forum to attack.

Grow the hello kitty up. 

 

 

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Just for the reckoning about the "10h kiting", I remember revenge fleets chasing me and my friends for 3h-4h. That's still not close to 10h, but just to give an example that similar kind of griefing has happened already and it's hard to avoid it. One of them was SORRY around Mortimer, other were some Spanish in Mexico Gulf and many other places around the map overall. It's not just capitals where it happened to make it clear for everyone.

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