jodgi Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Update Patch 27 - Port Interface, New missions, Streamlined economy, Insurance, New currencies.: Alternatively use the sheet as explained here. _______________________________________________________________________ This game is no different than other games with moving and shooting pixels: Speed is life. I set out to document each ship's speed characteristics in detail in order to enable you players to make the most out of your given fighting vessel. Ships can have wildly varying speeds all depending on wood type and upgrades. The ships in this thread are made of oak or teak with no upgrades that affect speed, that means they represent the base speeds, with guns, of the ships we have in game. Things will change to most, if not all, ships still, so this is a work in progress. Not all ships are in yet but that will happen. The comparisons linked under each section are dynamically updated and you can highlight an individual profile by clicking on an item in the right hand list. If you wish to discuss the topic of speeds, it's best we continue the discussion here Thanks to: maturin for his work to make the speeds what they are today, balticsailor for his ships and work on some profiles and manuva, generaljake and Schutzengel for ships. Give it up for Game Labs who have made this ridiculously good game and made it available to us! Small ships Lynx: Cutter: Comparison of small ships. Medium ships Brig: NavyBrig: Snow: Mercury: Comparison of medium ships. Frigates Surprise: Le Gros Ventre: Renommee: Frigate: Belle Poule Trincomalee: Constitution: Comparison of frigates. Ships of the Line (SOL) Bellona: Victory: Santisima: Comparison of SOLs. Edited October 31, 2018 by jodgi Updated Revision: 44706.CleanOWProd.x64 37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodgi Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 Reserved for wood types. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodgi Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 Reserved for upgrades. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamz Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Very nice. Hope to see more of this sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodgi Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 yup, once I've managed to crawl out of the grinding pit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taranis Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Very cool information. Is it me or are some of these (the big rigs) a bit buffed up in terms of their actual historical speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry d'Esterre Darby Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 They're a bit buffed to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsnapper77 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 i leave a thumb for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryaz Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Thank you! This is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Very cool information. Is it me or are some of these (the big rigs) a bit buffed up in terms of their actual historical speeds. The big rigs? Did you mean to say brig rigs? Because the smaller vessels have their speeds buffed pretty much across the board. It's the SoLs that are robbed (Santissima excluded), at least so far as top speeds go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkelephant Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Thanks! Very usefull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Did Cerberus get lost somewhere? The information about her best point of sail saved my life twice last night! Well, that and dodgy counter-tagging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodgi Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Yep, and I'm so sorry. Cerb was not prioritized in the mad pre-wipe rush. And now I'm struggling to keep abreast of xp grind and the utterly horrible, horrible fight for resources the eco dudes loves so much. Not gonna promise anything yet, I'm not out of the hole yet. But cerb and Niagara are eating at my conscience. All I want is to fight other players and, seriously, maintain up to date speed profiles. But since the only way to get the good stuff is through crafting yourself and the only viable way of collecting xp is bullying bots I've taken on both these grinds simultaneously. Far too much for a fun loving guy like me. It will get better, just bear with me as I suffer my way through the eco dudes' hell of time (and gold) consuming boredom they call heaven. I will allow you to pull the cat out of the bag on me, maturin, it would only be just... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoklar Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Jodgi, I have been plotting some of these in polar coordinates in my spare time in the hope of creating a useful tool for players. If you would like, I can complete the ships and update whenever you post new numbers. Low resolution samples below: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodgi Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 Cool, Shoklar! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prater Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Jodgi, I have been plotting some of these in polar coordinates in my spare time in the hope of creating a useful tool for players. If you would like, I can complete the ships and update whenever you post new numbers. Low resolution samples below: Well, at least since the devs changed ship polars the shapes have changed from what they used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Rooke Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Thank-you for the helpful information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodgi Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 I fully endorse thewuif's presentation of the speeds on navalactioncraft.... Who am I kidding? I practically begged him and he delivered, oh, boy! Did he deliver... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Well done! Very interesting to see the information represented this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghroznak Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Nice comparisons.. I don't see Cerberus though Still being tested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodgi Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Nice comparisons.. I don't see Cerberus though Still being tested? Yep, and I'm so sorry. Cerb was not prioritized in the mad pre-wipe rush. And now I'm struggling to keep abreast of xp grind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoklar Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 New format for polars based on Jodgi's suggestions. I'm trying to get these as user friendly as possible before I work through the list of ships, so feel free to PM me suggestions if anyone has any additional improvements that they would like to see. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Players will need to see the actual numbers, since it's relative advantage that matters, and not the best point of sail. A Cerb on its best point gets caught by just about everything, for instance, but outruns lots of ships at 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodgi Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) True maturin. But shoklar's thing could be a more intuitive presentation of a ship's performance as an alternative to the oldschool X/Y graphs. It reminds me of the flight manual performance envelopes made for almost all military and civilian aircraft, I think it's cool. Also, later on we might be able to make an overlay presentation of these, where you can look at several profiles superimposed over eachother. Then you will be able to quickly see the cerb thing from your post above. Edited February 22, 2016 by jodgi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Rice Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Awesome stuff. very informative.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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