JaM Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Panzergraf said: Task force sizes are limited by total crew numbers, so you won't get 43 BB's in one battle. But I had it happen back in 1.08 or something, before task force sizes were limited. Lots of fun. I only had battle against 120 TBs.. and i dont describe it as fun... it was a stutter mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Thomadis Posted June 16, 2023 Author Share Posted June 16, 2023 Hello Admirals, Here is another update for you.. Please read: v1.3.9 Updatehttps://steamcommunity.com/games/1069660/announcements/detail/5730315123630573630 Please restart Steam to download the update fast. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madham82 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Nick Thomadis said: Hello Admirals, Here is another update for you.. Please read: v1.3.9 Updatehttps://steamcommunity.com/games/1069660/announcements/detail/5730315123630573630 Please restart Steam to download the update fast. Aiming progress changes: The aiming mechanics got fixes and adjustments in their logic, so that they work overall better and more realistic. You will notice that when you hit a target then subsequent hits will happen more consistently unless the target maneuvers. Maneuvers will also affect the overall aiming progress more against a target, making fast ships have more chances on avoiding incoming shells (The UI is set to update slower for performance reasons, so the accuracy changes when you hover on target will be displayed not fully synced). Suggestion to change Fast to Agile, as I am sure that is the intent since you mention maneuvers. A ship's speed has no bearing on firing solution accuracy as long as it is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urst Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I am once again requesting þe ability to build obsolete hulls. I don't care if you delete þem from þe list of options when designing a new ship, but don't prevent me from building from designs I haven't deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o Barão Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 With all due respect, but the boost to the range finder needs to go, or at least give the option by editing the game files. If it is already possible, please tell me how. This is from the newest update, in a custom battle, with my mod. This being said, the guns in my work are more inaccurate in comparison to stock game, the accuracy modifiers from the "params" file are for the most part the same in stock game. The exception is target size modifier, which is not relevant in this situation. BB, with the best tech possible, veteran crews, targeting an enemy BB at 28 km away. Accuracy is around 7%. Reasonable values for me taking into consideration historical data. Then suddenly, the range found boost kicks in. Accuracy jumps to almost 70% at 24 km away!!!! With a 1482% range found boost!! I am afraid this is not the limit, since I noticed a few times values around, 2900%. However, I can't explain how these values are calculated. The battle experience was ruined, with me murdering the AI ship in a few salvos. As a reference, I will post the Iowa guns targeting data gather in training sessions against a similar target size. 2.7% hit chance at 27km away! And I am doing almost 70% at similar ranges. This range boost is ruining the simulation experience. I am basically playing at this moment WOWS every time the range found boost kicks in. Please, reconsider to remove this range boost from the game or give us the option. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzergraf Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I get that insane range found bonus from time to time too. I believe it's a bug because of how it jumps from a reasonable 200-something% to at least 1500% and some times close to 3000%, with accuracy some times jumping up to almost 90%, and then after a few salvos it's back down to the regular 2-300% and accuracy around 10% as you would expect. The range found bonus is fine when working as intended, it's just when it jumps to 10x what it should be that it becomes a bit silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangoriously Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, o Barão said: With all due respect, but the boost to the range finder needs to go, or at least give the option by editing the game files. If it is already possible, please tell me how. This is from the newest update, in a custom battle, with my mod. This being said, the guns in my work are more inaccurate in comparison to stock game, the accuracy modifiers from the "params" file are for the most part the same in stock game. The exception is target size modifier, which is not relevant in this situation. BB, with the best tech possible, veteran crews, targeting an enemy BB at 28 km away. Accuracy is around 7%. Reasonable values for me taking into consideration historical data. Then suddenly, the range found boost kicks in. Accuracy jumps to almost 70% at 24 km away!!!! With a 1482% range found boost!! I am afraid this is not the limit, since I noticed a few times values around, 2900%. However, I can't explain how these values are calculated. The battle experience was ruined, with me murdering the AI ship in a few salvos. As a reference, I will post the Iowa guns targeting data gather in training sessions against a similar target size. 2.7% hit chance at 27km away! And I am doing almost 70% at similar ranges. This range boost is ruining the simulation experience. I am basically playing at this moment WOWS every time the range found boost kicks in. Please, reconsider to remove this range boost from the game or give us the option. The bonus seems to scale off crew experience, if you can find a file associated with crew modifiers, you may find this range found multiplier there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o Barão Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 57 minutes ago, Fangoriously said: The bonus seems to scale off crew experience, if you can find a file associated with crew modifiers, you may find this range found multiplier there. Is not there. This range modifier is coming from another place. Probably from the "params" file accuracy modifiers. But until now I failed to find exactly the source. The crew modifiers are this, if interested to see. id,accuracy modifier (percent),,, @name,Accuracy,Aiming,Reload,DamageControl default,1,1,1,1 Cadets,0.85,0.8,1.15,0.65 Green,0.925,0.9,1.1,0.825 Trained,1,1,1,1 Regular,1.1,1.2,0.9,1.2 Seasoned,1.2,1.35,0.85,1.4 Veterans,1.3,1.5,0.8,1.6 But to nerf the accuracy modifiers here could help improve the situation. Not a perfect solution, but something to consider. Veterans being "1" and the others a negative value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaM Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Impossible to shift power projection in South Philippine Sea. No matter what fleet i send there, power projection wont get shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Hipster Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I'm noticing a VP problem. When I sink enemy transport ships I don't gain any VP, but when the AI sinks my transports it gains VP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Donuts Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Admiral Hipster said: I'm noticing a VP problem. When I sink enemy transport ships I don't gain any VP, but when the AI sinks my transports it gains VP In 2 full campaigns, I have not yet had a hunt convoys mission. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuikaku Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, Admiral Donuts said: In 2 full campaigns, I have not yet had a hunt convoys mission. I only got loads of convoy defense missions. Thought thait it was because as a Spain I was really outnumbered and hard pressed by England. But it was strange. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinrellren Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 On 6/16/2023 at 8:57 PM, JaM said: Did UK ever fielded 43 BBs??? and i dont mean ships of the line... And more importantly, is game even capable handling such huge number of ships... i had battles with 120 TBs before... You will never believe how much ships AI can posses. They have less effect of upkeep cost compared to us player, resulting in AI wielding unbelievable amount of ships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuikaku Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Submarines do not cause any transport lossess. As a Spain sent 12 coastal submarines into the irish sea. England got no shps there, 0 power projection and in 10 months not a single transport was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applegrcoug Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I think I have an observation that maybe someone else can verify... When the accuracy got adjusted on the latest update, it seems like radar got nerfed as well. Last night I had a CA with gen3 radar that lost contact at about 25km, where before it was much further than that. Also, I got into a major battle in an electrical storm. I was sailing ahead to engage the enemy fleet and then all of a sudden at 9km, all their DDs appeared along with already launched torpedoes. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Donuts Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Why does this still exist after all this time? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Donuts Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Game seized up at Prepare for Battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Donuts Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) In the initial setup for war, I placed 3 ports on Defend stance so that they wouldn't sail, instead lay mines. They sailed anyway for 1 Battle, 1 Convoy defense, and 1 Convoy attack (for the first time in 2 campaigns). Though I am grateful for the opportunity, and given that those light cruisers and destroyers bagged enough Chinese that they are already begging for peace, I think you see the problem. After the battle, 1 of my destroyers headed to a different port much further away. 2 CLs and 2 DDs moved to a different port to repair. Edited June 17, 2023 by Admiral Donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDHansen Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Admiral Donuts said: Why does this still exist after all this time? because tech isnt nation spesific. everyone gets it, but only some nations get hulls on certain techs. Fairly certain this can't be "fixed" unless done from the core files Edited June 17, 2023 by MDHansen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HistoricalAccuracyMan Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Don't know if it anyone else has experienced this, but after this latest update, (playing as Japan) my US and British friends like to repair their ships in my ports and then leave them there. I have several ports that are either at capacity or over capacity, but don't have a single ship of mine in them (in Port Arthur's case...it is over double the capacity and I've only got a single 10000 ton CL there). I realize they were my allies and at the time, my ports were the closest in the war so that's where they went for repairs. 10 months later, all their ships are fully repaired, but haven't sailed back home or to a port their nation actually controls. Has anyone else noticed this? Something to note: this campaign was started about a week before the latest update, and I didn't delete it after the update. Idk if it something caused by not deleting/starting a new campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDHansen Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just found 3 of my dissapeared BBs in Porto, 6200km from where they had a fight and their port of origin 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaM Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Weakest part of this game is definitely UI ( i have no idea what the enemy force is... because power projection window shows over it) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuikaku Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Sending ships to random ports after the battle makes playing campaign extremely painfull. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw62 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 14 hours ago, Admiral Donuts said: Game seized up at Prepare for Battle. Happened to me twice last night 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw62 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Zuikaku said: Sending ships to random ports after the battle makes playing campaign extremely painfull. My ships are scattered all over Asia and Europe. They rotate around, they take off for a few turns and then will be back in port, only to disappear again. ships are pulled from the canary islands and left in Amsterdam, ships from Corsica get stuck in greek ports. My fleet at Davao was scattered over Indonesia. I've tried building the ships to their ports, they don't stay. I refuse allied missions, the ships still move, but not as much. The only thing I've has success with is building harbor defense boats with minimum fuel and left on Defend, although I swear a few ports I had stocked lost theirs, but for the most part, all my harbors are defended by minefields. Except for my harbor defense boats all my ships have 30000km + range and I'm wondering if that has something to do with it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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