(PVP2-US) Political Situation - Edit* No clan size restrictions - need more Diplo Info Please

[Sir Texas Sir]

16 minutes ago, van der Decken said:

It is not our fault rats just don't want to show to support their own ports....

What you don't get is that is it.....there are no other players other than a few little Mort Rats/Random guys.  The funny thing there was never 50 pirates killing ya'll. It was 15-20 guys which most of those aren't playing any more.  

[OneEyedSnake]

2 minutes ago, Teutonic said:

Both Axel and I play multiple different games and are on multiple different teamspeaks at the same time, we both sit in the afk channels waiting for pokes or pings for action or a port battle or whatever is going down. because otherwise there really isn't anything to do. so far how its worked was when I wasn't on TS, i didn't hear about anything happening. as I said before, the Paranoia is just outrageous for a game like this.

I won't defend axel on his anti nation chatter as he just does that all the time and it is silly.

id say explain that to a couple people. i did tell them that, i also told them you use your discord, but they still just are a bit uncomfortable, id say talk to them

 

[Axel]

"Oh I have Axel muted" "I want him here [at the port battle] I just dont want to hear his voice" -Seditious

 

Also what is wrong with sitting in the AFK channel? is that not allowed? Am i getting super secret info on you guys while im asleep/at school/at work ? Im there so in case something is going on I can be poked and informed of it. Even though that doesnt happen.

And me putting down the Dutch in global? The only time I ever say anything seriously about disagreeing with the Dutch politics is on here. The other night all I did was tell you and Sir Prize to stop fighting like little babies in global about if the pirates could bring ~25 to a port battle.

I set my pride aside and switched nations so i could fight with you, and I have fought with you plenty, and now every time im in teamspeak to get the rights to even move I have to have one of the admins on so they can give my tag back since it is taken away EVERY time. If you dont want me in the nation because you cant get over me sitting in a room in ts waiting for information to help then i will gladly change again.

[OneEyedSnake]

Just now, Axel said:

"Oh I have Axel muted" "I want him here [at the port battle] I just dont want to hear his voice" -Seditious

 

Also what is wrong with sitting in the AFK channel? is that not allowed? Am i getting super secret info on you guys while im asleep/at school/at work ? Im there so in case something is going on I can be poked and informed of it. Even though that doesnt happen.

And me putting down the Dutch in global? The only time I ever say anything seriously about disagreeing with the Dutch politics is on here. The other night all I did was tell you and Sir Prize to stop fighting like little babies in global about if the pirates could bring ~25 to a port battle.

I set my pride aside and switched nations so i could fight with you, and I have fought with you plenty, and now every time im in teamspeak to get the rights to even move I have to have one of the admins on so they can give my tag back since it is taken away EVERY time. If you dont want me in the nation because you cant get over me sitting in a room in ts waiting for information to help then i will gladly change again.

you have to understand its more that we have had experience with spies reporting numbers before. i personally dont have a problem with it, but understand where they are coming from too 

[Sir Texas Sir]

21 minutes ago, Teutonic said:

I'll leave Pirates out of it at the moment but as for the Nations, if you discounted the Brits, I'd say the 2 sides are fairly even.

if the Brits and US fought each other, I think they would enjoy the fights, I just think no one else would honor that fight and instead try to take advantage of them fighting by taking land.

The real crux is all you folks are way to bitter about each other to do anything. a player may take an action like capturing an enemy player from a different nation. Suddenly that player is hated by a whole faction for doing something ENTIRELY allowed in the game. Too many people are just too salty about everything on PvP2, and from my standpoint, that is why nothing is going to change until both sides cut the bullcrap out.

the Port Battle was fun, even though no one sank and only really some damage on a few ships, people logged in to have a good time. Why can't we just...idk... encourage that side of the Naval Action we want instead of being complete and utter pussies about everything.

 

I feel that US vs Brits would be a very good close match up.  I think Pirates and Dutch are pretty equal in numbers too.   The Danes are an odd one cause they only really play in one time zone and they really aren't aggressive unless you keep pocking them. I think they are fine with the Dane vs Brit exchange.   If you look at the port battles in the morning and eve, us still can fill more than pirates in both time zones. They are the largest nation, they shouldn't be aligned with other big nations, they should have a small nation under there wings.  To be honest if Brits, US and Dutch picked up a small nation it would balance the servers out a lot more.  Than there would be way better fights and balance.  You hit on the nail with the fact folks don't want to change and try to make the server better.  To be honest once Pirates is down to Mort, what is next.  Danes to one port, Swedes to one port or france?  Than who will fight who?  I bet you the care bears of the US/Brit/Dutch will keep there alliance and just not fight any one other than a few little struggles here and there cause they seem to be happy with that.

Pirates should be the thorn in folks side and yes if they get uppity and zerg (not just try to take a port or two back) than I see no problem with an alliance to stop that, but it's not happening and no one else really is fighting.  More and more players are getting bored and either stop playing or switch to the more powerful nation cause they are tired of getting grindined on by way out number odds.

[Sir Texas Sir]

7 minutes ago, OneEyedSnake said:

id say explain that to a couple people. i did tell them that, i also told them you use your discord, but they still just are a bit uncomfortable, id say talk to them

 

I'm not going to point fingers on this, but I hear a lot of folks that just seem very paranoid about things like zerg, pirates, spy's and such.  I mean I hear folks being accused of being spies all the time on Nationals chat and I laugh cause it's the guys that don't stir the pot or make you notice them that are prob the alts of players.

[Axel]

6 minutes ago, Axel said:

"Oh I have Axel muted" "I want him here [at the port battle] I just dont want to hear his voice" -Seditious

 

Also what is wrong with sitting in the AFK channel? is that not allowed? Am i getting super secret info on you guys while im asleep/at school/at work ? Im there so in case something is going on I can be poked and informed of it. Even though that doesnt happen.

And me putting down the Dutch in global? The only time I ever say anything seriously about disagreeing with the Dutch politics is on here. The other night all I did was tell you and Sir Prize to stop fighting like little babies in global about if the pirates could bring ~25 to a port battle.

I set my pride aside and switched nations so i could fight with you, and I have fought with you plenty, and now every time im in teamspeak to get the rights to even move I have to have one of the admins on so they can give my tag back since it is taken away EVERY time. If you dont want me in the nation because you cant get over me sitting in a room in ts waiting for information to help then i will gladly change again.

#Triggered

 

4 minutes ago, OneEyedSnake said:

you have to understand its more that we have had experience with spies reporting numbers before. i personally dont have a problem with it, but understand where they are coming from too 

Its almost been 2 weeks since I moved my character over and ive fought in or shown up for all but 1 of our port battles. Idk why you think I would help Benny or the Danes by telling them how many people are coming when either the Danes are going to be at the battle and will have a full 25 or they wont and we will be up against 6 swedes. Im not even sure how me telling them that would even help them. They cant just magically get 15 more people to hop on if we are bringing more players than them.

[Teutonic]

11 minutes ago, OneEyedSnake said:

you have to understand its more that we have had experience with spies reporting numbers before. i personally dont have a problem with it, but understand where they are coming from too 

There is something to be said that we should engage in conversation more and I agree. I know myself and Axel just want to enjoy the game in the end. Gone are the days of all our other friends who sailed with us in the past, it's hard to re-do that sort of commitment now.

Anyway, as long as there are Port Battles to join to sink some seafaring folks, I'll be there. I barely have any gold anymore, just some leftover ships.

Edited February 3, 2017 by Teutonic

[OneEyedSnake]

6 minutes ago, Axel said:

#Triggered

 

Its almost been 2 weeks since I moved my character over and ive fought in or shown up for all but 1 of our port battles. Idk why you think I would help Benny or the Danes by telling them how many people are coming when either the Danes are going to be at the battle and will have a full 25 or they wont and we will be up against 6 swedes. Im not even sure how me telling them that would even help them. They cant just magically get 15 more people to hop on if we are bringing more players than them.

"**** the dutch" ~Axel on Global chat. Thats what makes people really nervous you know? 

 

6 minutes ago, Teutonic said:

There is something to be said that we should engage in conversation more and I agree. I know myself and Axel just want to enjoy the game in the end. Gone are the days of all our other friends who sailed with us in the past, it's hard to re-do that sort of commitment now.

I understand that, and i think everyone does, the players come and go thats for sure. 

[van der Clam]

hello kitty the dutch!

[Axel]

4 minutes ago, OneEyedSnake said:

"**** the dutch" ~Axel on Global chat. Thats what makes people really nervous you know? 

 

I understand that, and i think everyone does, the players come and go thats for sure. 

 

21 minutes ago, Axel said:

"Oh I have Axel muted" "I want him here [at the port battle] I just dont want to hear his voice" -Seditious

 

And me putting down the Dutch in global? The only time I ever say anything seriously about disagreeing with the Dutch politics is on here. The other night all I did was tell you and Sir Prize to stop fighting like little babies in global about if the pirates could bring ~25 to a port battle.

 

^

And also its not a one way thing. People who have a problem with me and Teutonic doing whatever can stop sneaking around and can say something to us too. Messaging and talking goes both ways. Because honestly some of the shit is super hello kittying dumb like for no reason Seditious saying shit about not wanting to hear my voice when ive never to my knowledge done anything to him. To be honest it seems to me that the Australians just have a pact to hate me.

[Sir Texas Sir]

1 hour ago, van der Decken said:

hello kitty the dutch!

lol you got 'HELLO KITTY"  I got it the other day in a group PM and I normally try not to cuse but figured since it was a PM between a  few of us.   

 

but wait aren't you DUTCH?

[OneEyedSnake]

1 hour ago, Axel said:

 

^

And also its not a one way thing. People who have a problem with me and Teutonic doing whatever can stop sneaking around and can say something to us too. Messaging and talking goes both ways. Because honestly some of the shit is super hello kittying dumb like for no reason Seditious saying shit about not wanting to hear my voice when ive never to my knowledge done anything to him. To be honest it seems to me that the Australians just have a pact to hate me.

you are right, we should all have a little talk and get that sorted. i know no one hates you, like i said, they just dont trust you, at all.

[Sir Texas Sir]

Les Cayes 4th Rate Deep Water Port Battle:  19 Danes vs 16 Brits

Pretty good numbers and Pirates caught three ships out side that was on the Brits/US side that didn't make it in so it was close numbers.   The cap circles where exchanged hands with Brits controlling them the first half of the battle.  The battle was won by 1K points earned.   1 Dane sunk (my mortar brig) and 9 Brit/US sanked.   I was only able to destroy one tower so prevented from getting extra points by taking out the forts.  Screen shot by chailing (he was faster than me).

 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/159151765539994996/34666A939549D1CDD413E198273D6092501D2388/

[Norfolk nChance]

A very good PB indeed. We lacked maybe numbers yes but not really. Very tactical and we had a plan (my fault)and stuck with it. From the GB alliance side we sounded much better comms wise, Cover and cross support was really working well. High quality feedback back and forth. The Danes probably can fill in more details but I think we caused them more confusion and damage than they expected prior to main contact? Rolling round the main Dane strike force to keep the far right circle B populated. Just needed that break.

The Pirates capped outside three as Sir Texas states, we tried it also but need a bit more practice at that or luck, but one of the CKA guys nearly did it. This unfortunately came back to haunt GB as the Danes made them extra few numbers count as the battle wore on.

The mortar brig caused us no end of problems. Positioned far left or C circle and undefended. I sent the main ELITE force that way. Just after the start it had a direct hit I think on one of our towers costing us 50pts. Didn't seem much points wise but motivation wise it unsettled us a bit that it couldn't be taken out sooner. The CKA Pushed hard to get the Danes into the island shallows while keeping a defensive stance. Great work even with odds against them.

The Danes came with exactly what I expected. All guns blazing. Well done ChaiLang and Co.

We lost the PB, but boy we learned a hell of a lot... next time next time....

 

Norfolk nChance

 

 

 

[Sir Texas Sir]

2 hours ago, Norfolk nChance said:

A very good PB indeed. We lacked maybe numbers yes but not really. Very tactical and we had a plan (my fault)and stuck with it. From the GB alliance side we sounded much better comms wise, Cover and cross support was really working well. High quality feedback back and forth. The Danes probably can fill in more details but I think we caused them more confusion and damage than they expected prior to main contact? Rolling round the main Dane strike force to keep the far right circle B populated. Just needed that break.

The Pirates capped outside three as Sir Texas states, we tried it also but need a bit more practice at that or luck, but one of the CKA guys nearly did it. This unfortunately came back to haunt GB as the Danes made them extra few numbers count as the battle wore on.

The mortar brig caused us no end of problems. Positioned far left or C circle and undefended. I sent the main ELITE force that way. Just after the start it had a direct hit I think on one of our towers costing us 50pts. Didn't seem much points wise but motivation wise it unsettled us a bit that it couldn't be taken out sooner. The CKA Pushed hard to get the Danes into the island shallows while keeping a defensive stance. Great work even with odds against them.

The Danes came with exactly what I expected. All guns blazing. Well done ChaiLang and Co.

We lost the PB, but boy we learned a hell of a lot... next time next time....

 

Norfolk nChance

 

 

 

Since we tend to leave the main Danes to do what they do best I asked the Swedes for support before the fight on the East side. I knew with wind it would be a place you send a few ships to cap it.  I think if they had started on that side even if it was 1 or two ships with me it would of held ya'll off longer and I could of moved to the Forts.   Towers are 50 points a piece and there was two of them before I even got to the forts.  Though the second one was tucked way back into an enclave that I was going to just skip it and go for the forts which are worth 150 points.  I can take down a tower in about 16 hits, so if it's perfect that is only 4 volleys from the mortar brig.  In good hands they are very effective and I have a special build I use on them.   The Forts take about 60 hits to destroy so they take a bit longer to take down. I thought it was a pretty good match up on both sides and it was more the cause of experience and team work on the Danes side that won the match.  Ya'll keep it up that gape will close up more and more as ya'll fight more matches.  

I did get one hit on one of the ships, but forgot to check the report to see how much I did to him. I have taken out an l'Ocean before with the mortar brig.  So in the right hand they can be a big pain, but they are easy to take out if not escorted and protected.

[Norfolk nChance]

 

Since our last head to head which was  Cap Francis, then I was worried you'd use the Mortar Brig and a lot of GB Alliance would be trapped in the awkward harbor. If you recall I also purposely made two ELITE interdictor's in Connies to either catch the mortar or get round the larger SoLs to cause chaos and mayhem. This didn't work quite the way I wanted, we needed the fire power more of the larger ships in hindsight.. In the Port-au-Prince pre-plan I had the same idea... "Primary Sir Texas mortar brig" was known to front end CKA and ELITE interdictors. Similar layout and similar worry over congestion. My thoughts focused too much on what I believe to be the secondary battle post PB with SoL Danes and trapping 4th Rate Pirates quickly.

Going over Les Cayes time and again with PvE missions etc. The more sprawling layout or flat structure led me to think the Mortar would be useless because you'd have to be so accurate it would be in effective. Also yes and the wind that left hand side agreed. That tower strike  was like a punch in the gut.Tell me points wise, Two Towers a fort and the accuracy they could add significantly to the PB score card so why aren't they used more? Dumb question I know...

The ship you hit I think was my Battle Commander Flipper. He sank eventually but I don't think it was you alone. I'll pull his bullet log then we'll see just how much damage it dose...

The CKA and BSR teams are really clicking. The mid game push to get the Danes grounded back onto that island... my plan nearly got there... Raekur [CKA] was the guy in a fast Romnee nearly got Budgie or Hazty at the start. Maybe I should make him my Interdictor specialist. Rather than whos got what, he new what was needed to trap and tag. The CKA mortar brig specialist I need to work with him more so he can show me how they work and can be utilized...

anyway till next time o7

Norfolk nChance.

 

[chailang]

11 hours ago, Norfolk nChance said:

The Danes came with exactly what I expected. All guns blazing. Well done ChaiLang and Co.

I'm not a Danish combat Commander.

[Sir Texas Sir]

10 hours ago, Norfolk nChance said:

 

That tower strike  was like a punch in the gut.Tell me points wise, Two Towers a fort and the accuracy they could add significantly to the PB score card so why aren't they used more? Dumb question I know...

The ship you hit I think was my Battle Commander Flipper. He sank eventually but I don't think it was you alone. I'll pull his bullet log then we'll see just how much damage it dose...

The CKA and BSR teams are really clicking. The mid game push to get the Danes grounded back onto that island... my plan nearly got there... Raekur [CKA] was the guy in a fast Romnee nearly got Budgie or Hazty at the start. Maybe I should make him my Interdictor specialist. Rather than whos got what, he new what was needed to trap and tag. The CKA mortar brig specialist I need to work with him more so he can show me how they work and can be utilized...

anyway till next time o7

Norfolk nChance.

 

Mainly cause when out number you need the combat ships more than you need the mortar brig and if your in smaller ships they are hard to hit. I was suppose to bring one tonight to Savanna port battle but I was up all day moving stuff and fell a sleep before the port battle.  That and well a lot of folks just don't have the gold hand books (I have an extra one) and know what all to set up or how to use them.

bullet log?   Is there a way to go back and look after a battle?  I know you can control L to look at t log while in a fight.  

Danes have all ways held half of southern Haiti and with that being there Hull Strength region I don't think you will push them off.  They going to fight for that one for sure.  Remember they only have three regions So it's not like if they take a region or two it is going to hurt any one, just strength them a bit.   They prob will be happy with doing a trade over of Cayes for PB's back and forth.  Remember Pounce is the only source of Silver for the alliance over on that side so they will fight for that hard.   It might be good if ya'll let them have a few regions that aren't important.  We would of gave up San Juan eventually to them if we didn't take northern Haiti-.  We just need more regions before we can give up any regions to the small nations.  

2 hours ago, chailang said:

I'm not a Danish combat Commander.

Hell I don't even know who the combat leader is.  I only speak with a few of ya'll.   Your just the most well known name of the Danes lol

[chailang]

11 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

Hell I don't even know who the combat leader is.  I only speak with a few of ya'll.   Your just the most well known name of the Danes lol

Almost every veteran can command a battle ....So our video is very noisy, we almost do not command... 

[Axel]

3 minutes ago, chailang said:

Almost every veteran can command a battle ....So our video is very noisy, we almost do not command... 

Thats my kind of battle

[chailang]

Just now, Axel said:

Thats my kind of battle

This may not be the same as you think .... 

[Sir Texas Sir]

17 minutes ago, chailang said:

Almost every veteran can command a battle ....So our video is very noisy, we almost do not command... 

Sounds about how BLACK does it too.  We have folks think it's a bit confusing, but we are so use to that style of a fight.

 

Oh every one I'm having picture limit size and well this thread is so out dated so I"m starting a new one.  I'll start with a post for savanaa port battle but can use the info to update the first page.

 

[Norfolk nChance]

I need to study M-Brigs /o\ thanks...

 

Bullet Log .. if time read my STEAM guide "Penetration, Armor and Structure". Last paragraph it tells you how to extract it in a useful notepad. Its actually the screen dump of the CTRL+L function in Battle, but much easier to read. For me I read it after every battle win lose or draw....Its only for your last battle only....

A prime example... I was in a Common Connie outside La Torture and decided to take on Neverdead Ned and lonewolf both in Bucc's. I shouted at them, then to Flipper this is  bollocks and totally unfair. So he came out in a Green Connie also... I said Ned ya gonna need some more BLACK. At which point he boarded me then I think sank me then reversed back over me. Haven't seen Flipp since so Wolf must have eaten him...

Anyway I digress, I pulled my Bullet Log. And studying BLACK was amazed at his(Ned's) speed and I couldn't quite pull away from him. Yet you'd a thought Connie should be able to do it. The boarding dropped me in a round. The BulletLog allowed me to see his gun loadout and profile and how effect I was also... impacts received and delivered plus other stuff , but that's for you to research. Funny I shared this with Ned after,  he gave me some useful advice on  types and tips on Capping  Bucc's and Port Battle Bucc's and cocky GB Nation upstart Bucc's

But Yes BulletLogs are brilliant.

 

 

Will take yours and other Senior Players views on these matters with some serious consideration. Still a bit young for Politics... more scary than Ned or Lone any day of the week

 

 

 

ChaiLang,

When I come knocking, I will ask for the non-Danish combat Commander who ate Sun Tzu for breakfast.

 

see you soon

 

Norfolk

 

 

 

[Sir Texas Sir]

Good info, see even us old dogs can learn new things.  One thing you will find us Pirates are actually willing to help new players even if we are sinking them while doing so.  Cause in our book if we help you and you get better, that means we get better PvP later when you get more experienced. I'll have to check out that guide now. I been slacking on steam cause it tends to have little info on it that is up to date, but the reviews on it have been helpful.  Like the gun one made that is a little out dated.  Guys couldn't understand why I run say 24 meds and 18 longs on my 4th rates.  It cause they have the same reload, lower crew on the mediums, and close to the same pin and meds do more damage so if you brawl up close that is going to put me with more DPS over some one doing all longs on the same Aggy (said connie before but I run the 24/42's with the connie).  Y Plus the less crew on the guns means I can manage my sails and guns more, which is  very important with crew lost. On other ships I run smaller guns if I'm board fit for the same reason.  I make my ships so they aren't combat ineffective even if board fit.

Edited February 4, 2017 by Sir Texas Sir