Captain Comery Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I know that many people wonder what would be the perfect vessel for sailing in the open world and can hold its own in a sticky situation. If you want to be able to get out of a situation fast but with lots of firepower I can recommend a constitution. It has the perfect balance between speed and firepower and that can help if something as simple as catching a trade vessel turns into a mini trafalgar. However some may consider a Pavel because it has got a decent speed and is very close to a first rate. Anything attacks you in a Pavel you can bet that it's strong armour will help in the worst situation. (The Pavel can sink a victory or sanitisima with the right method. Trust me from my personal experience.) Do not go for the 1st rates because they turn like a brick with even the gold turning modules and they are no good if you want to run from a fight. The constitution and the Pavel are the best fighting vessels and I have learned from experience. He this is helpful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anto Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I Prefer the Bellona to the Pavel, thats the best all around vessel, in my opinion, of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Comery Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 Your input is appreciated. I personally find the Bellona to be a bit slow and hard to turn. Plus the Pavel has more guns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavalicious Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I loved my pavel. I also enjoy the fast firing rate of the 9s to help keep up a steady barrage. With a speed twinked pavel i was showing a docked speed of almost 17 (not max twinked) Though overall i would say a speed focused trinco/frigate is overall best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) The Pavel is a very nice ship indeed i also very much enjoy at range when the enemy mistakes you for a connie or a trinco until it is too late  mind you that happens only rarely and with very new players but when it does priceless Edited August 24, 2015 by Young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavalicious Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Vic is a boat compared the pavel, your not allowed an opinion Arch because you never sailed the pavel. Â You went Vic/Santi at post captain. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prater Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 The Pavel is a swiss army knife compared to the Vic. Vic is slow and cumbersome and slow to maneuver. The Pavel has more firepower than a frigate and better maneuverability than the Vic. That means it can take them. I've killed 2 vics now in it, haven't lost yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Masterviolin Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Well, I've had some pretty good runs in my BellePoule. I had this amazing last stand against a Spanish Bellona, and I nearly sank her. However, the Pavel (currently testing her out with the 1,000,000 gold redeemable) has definitely proven herself as a very good ship- I have yet to face any Vics or Santis, yet her maneuverability's quite surprising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Masterviolin Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Guilty. Used a Pavel to sink a contraband trade lynx. I feel ashamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Latham Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 The Pavel is a swiss army knife compared to the Vic. Vic is slow and cumbersome and slow to maneuver. The Pavel has more firepower than a frigate and better maneuverability than the Vic. That means it can take them. I've killed 2 vics now in it, haven't lost yet. I watched you stern camp a vic yesterday. Clearly the Pavel is the superior ship in a 1v1 dogfight. How does she pan out in a Trafalger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 She's no better than the Bellona in Traf which means she's useless (and in need of a buff). All the speed in the world but no bow chasers is a massive drawback unless you intend to run or run a boarding outfit against targets unable to sail away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavalicious Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Lack of chasers in the front is annoying...probably my only complaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavalicious Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 eh I tried the Pavel...got blown out of the water before I could get close enough to board and decided I prefer vics lol Faiiiilll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prater Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 She's no better than the Bellona in Traf which means she's useless (and in need of a buff). All the speed in the world but no bow chasers is a massive drawback unless you intend to run or run a boarding outfit against targets unable to sail away. I disagree. In this Trafalgar I got more xp and damage than several of our vics reported: However, in a 1st rate fight, you want 1st rates, correct. But in a perfect game not everyone will be able to sail 1st rates, and so I would choose the Pavel over the Bellona, but that is personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prater Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 would you really choose the pavel tho...when we get other 2nd/3rd/4th/5th/6th and proper 1st/1stSH's  dont get me wrong for being a raker/demaster she works...but if you do get smacked by a santi/victory its pretty nasty particularly as your sides are not great at generating bounces and the bow is just candy  I mean aside from the Victory...I kinda wanna sail a Glatton (4th) and/or Rainbow (5th) cause Honour to Trollope's legacy lol and definately an Arrogant class 74 as I found an amusing historical/familial note on it lol   Yes, my line up out of the current ships is Santi, Pavel, Coni, Frigate, Pickle, Yacht, Lynx. Out of over a thousand hours and around 1000 battles in Sea Trials alone before OW, these are my preferred ships.  In the Trafalgar I posted above, I could have taken a 1st rate, but took a 3rd rate instead (Pavel is actually a 3rd rate, not a 2nd rate like it is listed in game).  If while in a 3rd rate and you are fighting a 1st rate, and your sides are disappearing, you are without a doubt fighting wrong. In the 2 battles I've used my Pavel against lone vics, both surrendered and went through 3 repairs before I used 1 (in both battles, I repaired my armor after they had surrendered). It is the same if you are in a Coni trying to solo a Bell or a Yacht trying to solo a Surprise or Trinc. If you are in a lesser ship while fighting a more powerful ship, and you are fighting fairly, you are always fighting wrong and will always lose unless they are no good at all.  As for bounces, half of the victory's broadsides were bouncing off yesterday. You just have to position right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodgi Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I guess it depends on how they end up balancing the economy. I have a feeling they won't set it up for us to use big ships all the time. The big ships could end up as end-game gold sinks and the profitability cutoff may be set at the Mercury or the first frigates... We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Â (Pavel is actually a 3rd rate, not a 2nd rate like it is listed in game). Pavel is essentially a 2nd Rate because she is an 80-gun ship whose 24-pounders give her greater broadside weight of metal than a British 98-gun three decker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prater Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Pavel is essentially a 2nd Rate because she is an 80-gun ship whose 24-pounders give her greater broadside weight of metal than a British 98-gun three decker. In game she has a very slight edge on the 74 gun Bellona though, which has 24-pounders as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souvenir Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I read and I find it funny. Guys who you catch up on their turtles in the sea will be able to? I rode on a frigate. 2 module speed. In the sea 24-29 knots in the fight against -17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 In game she has a very slight edge on the 74 gun Bellona though, which has 24-pounders as well. I thought Bellona recently lost her 24-pounders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prater Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I thought Bellona recently lost her 24-pounders? Â I haven't sailed one recently so I guess I wouldn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Connor Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Old Bellonas still have the 24-pdrs, new ones are stuck with 18s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Bellona/Pavel/Constitution is the sweet spot in the lineup for all around performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodgi Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 The Bellona is speed fitted as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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