The Comedian Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) now I have just returned to the game after a long time off but WTF is the purpose of the Home Defense fleets attacking you in open waters miles away from a "Capital Port" and the fact that you can be run down by a 1st rate I was in a 5th rate and these 1st rates caught me like they were speed boats. I understand the original reason was to keep the losers who like to farm the noobs in Capital waters but you have made it impossible to attack some one in capitals waters so why the need for these fleets? And WTF is the reason behind having them range so far I was attacked by the keys by a havana HD fleet its a joke. its like the Devs sit around at their meetings and go hmmm I know the game has a shrinking population but what could we do to make the game even more unplayable Wait I have it Super terror fleets that will chase you down miles from the ports they are supposed to defend AND are faster than ship a player could hope to have. FFS guys this game is enough of a grind without extra layers of BS like this. Why do you guys always have to go to extremes when you try to fix a problem? How do these HD fleets make the game better Thanks for letting me vent I will take my Ban now Edited June 24, 2020 by The Comedian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixolai Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, The Comedian said: now I have just returned to the game after a long time off but WTF is the purpose of the Home Defense fleets attacking you in open waters miles away from a "Capital Port" and the fact that you can be run down by a 1st rate I was in a 5th rate and these 1st rates caught me like they were speed boats. I understand the original reason was to keep the losers who like to farm the noobs in Capital waters but you have made it impossible to attack some one in capitals waters so why the need for these fleets? And WTF is the reason behind having them range so far I was attacked by the keys by a havana HD fleet its a joke. its like the Devs sit around at their meetings and go hmmm I know the game has a shrinking population but what could we do to make the game even more unplayable Wait I have it Super terror fleets that will chase you down miles from the ports they are supposed to defend AND are faster than ship a player could hope to have. FFS guys this game is enough of a grind without extra layers of BS like this. Why do you guys always have to go to extremes when you try to fix a problem? How do these HD fleets make the game better Thanks for letting me vent I will take my Ban now If you look at Christiansted its an island, and the circle where the HDF roam is nice. Now if you then take a look at Havana, you see half the circle is embedded in north cuba, ergo they moved the circle more north. But this is a well known fact for most players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despe Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 im member of the Official Associaton of HDF Haters. Inscription is for free if you interested 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 8 hours ago, The Comedian said: I understand the original reason was to keep the losers who like to farm the noobs in Capital waters but you have made it impossible to attack some one in capitals waters Read that phrase ... several times... and making as much pause as necessary to understand the full meaning of it. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 right Hethwill I wasnt sailing near a capital and I never farmed noobs you know what never mind you guys keep telling yourself the game is great and doing fine and all 600 of you enjoy playing it 07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macjimm Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) The Capitol Defense Fleets sound great. Can someone post up the specs please. The large CDFs seem to attack any foreign player with over 100 BR, and this includes the BR of the player's fleet ships. Will CDFs attack Traders? and ships without cannon? What is the BR limit that will trigger the small CDFs? This sounds like a wonderful improvement to the game. More choice now. Gankers can avoid CDFs by choosing to hunt in CDF free areas. New players can be safe near capitals, or they can choose to venture out in to dangerous waters. Win Win for everyone. Edited June 25, 2020 by Macjimm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Comrade Question said: The logic here is to help new players not get hunted and killed in capital waters by veterans in big ships. Then, the devs put many useful items in the game as rewards for attacking these fleets, forcing vets to form large fleets in big ships to kill those fleets and subsequently, players. Some of these useful items, the HDF is the ONLY WAY to obtain it. Logic. Comrade... the vets will go with SOL fleets with one purpose in mind. To get flags and chest and then get back to base as soon as possible. Further, they are within reach of an entire nation, all clans, that can go and sink them with overwhelming force... Is very logical but you insist on something that you don't say. Be clear. Be honest. Say: I want to be able to go to capital zones and not be hunted by HDF. Is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Macjimm said: The Capitol Defense Fleets sound great. Can someone post up the specs please. The large CDFs seem to attack any foreign player with over 100 BR, and this includes the BR of the player's fleet ships. Will CDFs attack Traders? and ships without cannon? What is the BR limit that will trigger the small CDFs? This sounds like a wonderful improvement to the game. More choice now. Gankers can avoid CDFs by choosing to hunt in CDF free areas. New players can be safe near capitals, or they can choose to venture out in to dangerous waters. Win Win for everyone. Large - 100BR and above. From today they are made of 13 ships including 4 1st rates. All of them epic grade. Small - 30 BR and above up to 99BR. Cerberus, Surprise, Princes, Xebecs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Comrade Question said: If the goal is to lock port battles and PvP behind PvE, fine. It just seems like a band-aid on a bullet hole since a non-exploitable PvP solution cannot be found. A better idea would be to have these large fleets (but non aggressive) roaming around in areas close to free ports but out of the way. So north of Tumbado, south of La Mona, southwest of Aves. Less traveled areas and now you aren't forcing large player fleets to the docks of capital ports which in turn will intimidate new players as they have no idea what is going on. Comrade...Stay on target... You have hidden motives. Be clear. I tell you comrade... You want flag ? You go into dangerous area and fight dangerous AI. Oh and you might see a lot of PvP on the way out if you don't get PvP on the way in... Win win situation comrade. Very much combat. Lots of action. Edited June 25, 2020 by Hethwill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macjimm Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 45 minutes ago, Hethwill said: Large - 100BR and above. From today they are made of 13 ships including 4 1st rates. All of them epic grade. Small - 30 BR and above up to 99BR. Cerberus, Surprise, Princes, Xebecs. Does the BR limit include the sum of my main and fleet? Example: Traders Lynx with Traders Lynx in fleet = 50BR? This mechanic is quite brilliant. No more immunity to gank using a smaller ship. Groups of players can co-ordinate and harvest chests from big CDFs. And yet all ports are still accessible in a small trade ship. Good for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Macjimm said: Does the BR limit include the sum of my main and fleet? Example: Traders Lynx with Traders Lynx in fleet = 50BR? Highest unique BR in your ships. So a 25 plus a 25 is 25BR for detection. All small traders are 25BR. Edited June 25, 2020 by Hethwill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macjimm Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Hethwill said: Highest unique BR in your ships. So a 25 plus a 25 is 25BR for detection. All small traders are 25BR. Fantastic. So versatile. 👏 NA's industrious Dev knocked this one out of the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm3 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, Hethwill said: All small traders are 25BR. Except Trader Snow with its 45 BR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Malcolm3 said: Except Trader Snow with its 45 BR Nasty bugger with those carros. A true Q-Ship. Can't remember the last time i came across a player in one Good dev decision to keep it that BR... IMO Edited June 25, 2020 by Hethwill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 We shall test it and we shall like it and it will work great. The status quo cannot be kept forever. Let war begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikawa Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Have home defense fleets special armour? I did not see that many bullets bounce off the sides of ships as in my HDF battle 2 days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Van Boom Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Just try and board one of those even after removing most of its crew, it's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixolai Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 just take marines or barricades when going out for home defense fleets... I have survived some boardings with them long enough so my mates could push me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suppenkelle Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 4:27 PM, Hethwill said: Large - 100BR and above. From today they are made of 13 ships including 4 1st rates. All of them epic grade. Small - 30 BR and above up to 99BR. Cerberus, Surprise, Princes, Xebecs. Not really relevant anymore but just so that you know exactly which one is coming for you: large is 101(!) and above small is 31(!) and up to 100 afaik Xebec is BR 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) No. Privateer is 30BR and will get chased by Small. Edited July 4, 2020 by Hethwill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suppenkelle Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 So, 30 to 100 chased by small fleets, 101 and above chased by the big juicy ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Monkey Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Suppenkelle said: So, 30 to 100 chased by small fleets, 101 and above chased by the big juicy ones. I think so Edited July 5, 2020 by PG Monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macjimm Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 7:27 AM, Hethwill said: Large - 100BR and above. From today they are made of 13 ships including 4 1st rates. All of them epic grade. Small - 30 BR and above up to 99BR. Cerberus, Surprise, Princes, Xebecs. That seems clear. Any ship that is 100BR, or more, will be attacked by large Capital Defence Fleets (CDFs), and small Capital Defence Fleets attack any ship of 30BR to 99BR. Seems like a great way to protect Capitals. One more question Hethwill. Will an aggregate Group BR attract CDFs, or is is sufficient that each member have individual ships that are less than 30BR? Example: Can my Group of 6 players avoid the attention of all CDFs if we all sail Lynx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquillas Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 40 minutes ago, Macjimm said: That seems clear. Any ship that is 100BR, or more, will be attacked by large Capital Defence Fleets (CDFs), and small Capital Defence Fleets attack any ship of 30BR to 99BR. Seems like a great way to protect Capitals. One more question Hethwill. Will an aggregate Group BR attract CDFs, or is is sufficient that each member have individual ships that are less than 30BR? Example: Can my Group of 6 players avoid the attention of all CDFs if we all sail Lynx? Light Fleets will attack all players between and including BR30 and BR100.A group in which all ships are out of this range won't be attacked. If a single ship has BR in this range, she will be attacked. What is important is the BR of each ship. A group including a Privateer and an Hercules will be attacked by Light Fleets and by Home Defense Fleets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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