Liq Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, Jones el Tuerto said: The 32 knots while being invisible going upwind for 30 seconds it's sooo broken this literally helps people to avoid pvp combats it doesnt it helps people to avoid nonsense revenge fleets "combats", e.g. being turned down a 1v2 (being the one) to then face a 1v11, cause the people outside profited from the OW speed boost. If they can profit from it, why cant the peeps in battle aswell? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richart Sievers Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 nothing done about the revenge fleet bullshit no port to freetowns anddeep in the arse of the biggest nations ...crap patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones el Tuerto Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, Liquicity said: it doesnt it helps people to avoid nonsense revenge fleets "combats", e.g. being turned down a 1v2 (being the one) to then face a 1v11, cause the people outside profited from the OW speed boost. If they can profit from it, why cant the peeps in battle aswell? It does, doesn't make any sense and it's not realistic at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, Jones el Tuerto said: It does, doesn't make any sense and it's not realistic at all. how is it realistic to have two instances, battle and OW, of which the OW is 75x compressed and allows the players to literally camp a battle? If you're calling revenge fleets realistic you may need to take your pills 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaos Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Jones el Tuerto said: The 32 knots while being invisible going upwind for 30 seconds it's sooo broken this literally helps people to avoid pvp combats This is going to be good for those times you are trying to get somewhere but the wind is against you. Tag a AI at max range, then escape the battle and have 30 seconds warp against the wind. (not sure how much you would actually gain but would be worth finding out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demsity Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Richart Sievers said: nothing done about the revenge fleet bullshit no port to freetowns anddeep in the arse of the biggest nations ...crap patch but they did something about the revenge fleet bullshit, did you not read the patch notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I would like clarification on Victory Marks. is the "winning" nation the only one that gets awarded the Victory marks after the 7 day period? or do all nations get awarded victory marks and nations with "more" land get more victory marks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain MiniMe Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Teutonic said: I would like clarification on Victory Marks. is the "winning" nation the only one that gets awarded the Victory marks after the 7 day period? or do all nations get awarded victory marks and nations with "more" land get more victory marks? Only the winning nation gets them is how I understand from the Admin post. Victory mark will be granted for map wins (not port battles) using the legacy system (old control will move to the next round) Map is won by the nation having largest number of conquest points. Edited July 17, 2017 by Captain MiniMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones el Tuerto Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Liquicity said: how is it realistic to have two instances, battle and OW, of which the OW is 75x compressed and allows the players to literally camp a battle? If you're calling revenge fleets realistic you may need to take your pills Never called a revenge fleet I can solve my own problems with my own ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaimundoJoe Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I think that we are on the right track, just small details: 250 CM for a Rattle/Niagara permit? A bit much, in my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Captain MiniMe said: Only the winning nation gets them is how I understand from the Admin post. I see where that could be the case, but I kind of hope it isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain MiniMe Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, Teutonic said: I see where that could be the case, but I kind of hope it isn't I edited my post. The idea of victory points is awesome and could work, except the Devs did it in a rush and didn't think it trough I feel. Small nations are getting screwed again, by not having the means to compete in this system and never will be able to get the means because of that. It's a death spiral. Same reason why I suggested: Even though that doesn't counter the alt accounts issue, but might balance the point system a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jones el Tuerto said: Never called a revenge fleet I can solve my own problems with my own ship you dont, but your enemies will - been just lucky it never happened to you, its not quite the most enjoyable thing to fight an inteleporting fleet blocking your way out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I too like the victory system, but I also agree with you where this could cause a lot of problems with the way it's worded. so again, I want clarification from the admin - if it's the case where all nations get victory marks based on what they own that would be nice - if it's the case where the nation with the most is the only one to get victory marks then wow, Diplomacy just got interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richart Sievers Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Teutonic said: I too like the victory system, but I also agree with you where this could cause a lot of problems with the way it's worded. so again, I want clarification from the admin - if it's the case where all nations get victory marks based on what they own that would be nice - if it's the case where the nation with the most is the only one to get victory marks then wow, Diplomacy just got interesting diplomacy was allways interesting for mass no class nations like swedes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richart Sievers Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 ohhh and the battle speed is still capped to 15 knots another broken mechanic not repaired 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rouleur Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 My understanding is that its based on the change week to week - not the number of ports held. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain MiniMe Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Teutonic said: I too like the victory system, but I also agree with you where this could cause a lot of problems with the way it's worded. so again, I want clarification from the admin - if it's the case where all nations get victory marks based on what they own that would be nice - if it's the case where the nation with the most is the only one to get victory marks then wow, Diplomacy just got interesting There is no confusion to be had, the wording is clear: Victory mark will be granted for map wins (not port battles) using the legacy system (old control will move to the next round) Map is won by the nation having largest number of conquest points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapranoth Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Ok, yesterday I had 7 conquest marks saved up to make an Aggie. Those were converted to 70 combat marks. With the change to the cost of permits, I can no longer afford to get one for the Aggie. Blueprints are now much cheaper than permits. Why the change? If it were reversed, I could have still built my Aggie today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, Richart Sievers said: ohhh and the battle speed is still capped to 15 knots another broken mechanic not repaired It's not 'broken'. I didn't like 15knt cap initially but because of it you see a very wide variety of ships being used. What you don't see is ships who can't hit the 15nt cap in PVP unless its a PB. The only thing we really lack now is some kind of smaller scale PVP battle that is like a PB that gives you the opportunity to use your slower/tankier ships in PVP that don't necessarily need 15nts to be viable for those sorts of battles.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 3 hours ago, [HRE] Lanfire said: Overall, nice patch. thx you Devs for this nice Patch and BTW @Bearwall Enjoy the Burning of your Bellona. If you want, im lit the Fire ^^ xD lol If you make the wappen I'll lit the Bellona myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 A lot of very promising stuff to test, overall THANK YOU! I'm very excited about many parts of this patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapranoth Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 The Indiaman blueprint I purchased with 250 combat marks a week ago now cost 50 marks!!!??? Can you refund me 200 marks please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richart Sievers Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Lovec1990 said: You do get speed buff and wind direction imunity and you think that 30 sec of more speed gets you somewhere ? you dont play much right ? or is that like 100 knots we are talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Corvinus Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 The Bellona was the one ship I was about to get, and this change with the Victory Marks now hello kittys me over for at least 4 weeks IF we are top Nation. How the hell can it be more expensive than a 1st rate FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts