angriff Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 NO REMOVE FLEETS IN PVP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernon Merrill Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Was a whole new "OMG" thread on this topic really necessary??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themule08 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Y? If I am a trader and can crew ships to travel with me..then I should have them in battle. You can bring ships too 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 In fact, one might come to think this feature really needs its first "#YESFLEET" or "I LOVE U" thread 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I think the "get Social" witty hint from the devs would get into yer oak thick skulls... but apparently not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernon Merrill Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 shiny things, Heth..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodgi Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 ...Adapt or Die.. simple as that. Except it isn't that simple. We're still in the process of defining what this game should be and we still have the opportunity to make a place for pure PVP. Then people can say "Yea, Naval Action. That game has PVE content but puts emphasis on real PVP." Naval Action can stand apart from both arena games and silly pet MMOs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angriff Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 Really it was a much better game when the fleets were out of it. It is only players that cannot sail that want fleets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Really it was a much better game when the fleets were out of it. It is only players that cannot sail that want fleets. Actually the truth behind it ain't related to that. Social is a damn big hint and almost smells like an ultimatum... I hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Ideal game would be : one server where you could choose at port which kind of fight(s) you want during your next sea trip by box ticking : PvE (bots attacking) and/or PvP with AI fleet and/or pure PvPn with or without ganking and/or duels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson09 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Ideal game would be : one server where you could choose at port which kind of fight(s) you want during your next sea trip by box ticking : PvE (bots attacking) and/or PvP with AI fleet and/or pure PvPn with or without ganking and/or duels... Yeah, feels like Christmas when I was a boy I could tick boxes what I want to get. Then I prayed to get all stuff ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Yeah, feels like Christmas when I was a boy I could tick boxes what I want to get. Then I prayed to get all stuff ! Now you're a big boy and you just have to press the button "pray" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Dear Santa, let me tick PvE everytime I go out in my trader and a PvE tick everytime I need to take a warship somewhere, oh and a PvE tick everytime I need to escape a warzone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Oh my... I would be horrible ! (a bit of irony) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson09 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) I am loving all the sweaty teen angst over fleets. Yes it needs to change, but only to restrict the types of ships you can put together. The idea of a 4th rate protecting an unrated trade vessel is just stupid. And the idea of having a ship without having an additional officer to command it is also equally stupid. I think if you want to run a fleet, it should cost you money, and resources. You will need to hire another officer, and still maintain the crew amount, not to mention you should have to pay to equip it with guns, and there should be a bigger hit on your OW movement speed, as you are attempting to stay together. And storms should be nearly impossible to traverse as a fleet. As you take a risk of losing a ship and that risk will be HIGH. First constructive commenting we got on this topic.... (Hethwill is already obsessed by this "get rid off") Edited August 20, 2016 by Wilson09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 My apologies... will retreat to my cove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Boneboys Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Oh look, another... http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/14898-save-pvp-say-no-to-pvp-fleets/#entry276569 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angriff Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) Only Fleet Fanbois want this game .. Only those that want their computer to succeed where they cannot. The AI in the game sux ... players that use it have that same reduced capacity. If there is no other way to make players feel safe from Gankers then the game IMHO is doomed to failure. As I said I play this game to fight other players not fight a computer maneuvering an AI ship as directed from some small vessel. Edited August 20, 2016 by angriff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themule08 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 First constructive commenting we got on this topic.... (Hethwill is already obsessed by this "get rid off") I agree.. but can we not have 6 day storms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Livingston Alden Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 the fleet ships are completely useless and should be removed anyway because they dont help you in a usefull way. I have no problem when beginners have that Kind of Option but for all other Players i would say "no fleet ships" fleet sheeps ki is more then stupid fleet sheeps shoot your sails and ship and not the enemy ones fleet sheeps cross your way so that you can not maneuver or they do nothing - as i had today when you get attacked by Players, even when you give commands to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson09 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) the fleet ships are completely useless and should be removed anyway because they dont help you in a usefull way. I have no problem when beginners h I am not a beginner and AI ships are hard to command. Still, they are the most useful tool in the game a trader can have. The sheer ignorance on this topic is just....am I being entitled to comment on PB with 1st rates I never took part? No, but eveyrone feels entitled to comment on AI fleets having no experience or DATA to give evidence whats going on. Edited August 21, 2016 by Wilson09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson09 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Only Fleet Fanbois want this game .. Only those that want their computer to succeed where they cannot. The AI in the game sux ... players that use it have that same reduced capacity. If there is no other way to make players feel safe from Gankers then the game IMHO is doomed to failure. As I said I play this game to fight other players not fight a computer maneuvering an AI ship as directed from some small vessel. >>The AI in the game sux ... players that use it have that same reduced capacity. If there is no other way to make players feel safe from Gankers then the game IMHO is doomed to failure. If this post will not be penalized with a "warning point", I know that this thread is not being monitored.... A clear insult to all players and the Devs who brought AI fleets back into the testing.... >>As I said I play this game to fight other players not fight a computer maneuvering an AI ship as directed from some small vessel. Sure. I guess you have been "farming" AI missions over and over again.... Edited August 21, 2016 by Wilson09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angriff Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 as a suggestion keep fleets for trading vessels only. This compromise helps the economy and those players that are not of the warrior class. Warships have to bring the real player kind of escorts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septimius Severus Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Really it was a much better game when the fleets were out of it. It is only players that cannot sail that want fleets.Not true... For a trader, its good fun to turn the tide of a battle against an agressor by use of a fleet.Besides, they are ai, if you hunt in packs like any successful group of privateers (think, German submarine wolfpacks) they are easy to crush. Furthermore, pack hunting is good for having a tagger/chaser and a heavy hitter to land the powerful attacks. Fleets not only help attackers but also encourage team work amongst both trade fleets and privateer/pirate fleets Edited August 21, 2016 by Septimius Severus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpants Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Only Fleet Fanbois want this game .. Only those that want their computer to succeed where they cannot. The AI in the game sux ... players that use it have that same reduced capacity. If there is no other way to make players feel safe from Gankers then the game IMHO is doomed to failure. As I said I play this game to fight other players not fight a computer maneuvering an AI ship as directed from some small vessel. i dont think people need to feel safe from gankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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