Brogsitter Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) The french player called "Tatann" was able to leave a battle in front of Puerto de Espania at 23:42 CET while beeing constantly shot. I want to ask for a detailed investigation of this issue. As far as I am informed no surrenders were accepted. And probably "Tatann" can post exactly what he did. Would be nice though. Cheers Brog Edited February 7, 2016 by Brogsitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chustler Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Issues like this have always been a simple misunderstanding of the way things work in the past. Often a ship can be hit by a cannon ball, but not penetrate. Sometimes an attackers timer can be reset by being hit by a friendly cannon ball without the attacker realizing that the victim did not get reset. I'm not sure if that is what happened here, but we shall see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyShelby Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Perhaps a situation similar to this; http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/8190-us-tommy-shelby/ ? Admin's Explanation; Long range hit does not mean long range damage It is a common complaint that sometimes gave an impression that enemy exited even if it was hit at the last second - it happened due to non - penetrating hits or ricochets. If you hit you may see a hit particle but it does not mean you did damage. If you upload the video it would be great to see what happened. Also in the future please report such cases by F11 right from the battle. But based on your description we believe that you saw non-penetrating hits - as such tribunals or questions happened before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 i had just reduced his rear armour to zero,and he was getting pummeled from close range. He also said he was off to bed just before, just seemed very odd.not that im really bothered just backing up brogsitters view of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quineloe Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 . As far as I am informed no surrenders were accepted. There is no such mechanic, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galileus Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Is there any evidence? So far there are words being thrown at the wind. And it is accuser's duty to provide the evidence. I do hope some is provided. Otherwise it's hard not to notice you're indirectly accusing a player of hacking or cheating - doing so publicly. He also said he was off to bed just before, just seemed very odd Since when is taunting very odd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogsitter Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Short range fighting. 4 ships against him. Last hit about 30 seconds before he left at point blank. F11 report was sent. Edited February 8, 2016 by Brogsitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I didn't t take it as s taunt, I took it as it was meant, that he was leaving now,which he promptly did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogsitter Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Is there any evidence? So far there are words being thrown at the wind. And it is accuser's duty to provide the evidence. I do hope some is provided. Otherwise it's hard not to notice you're indirectly accusing a player of hacking or cheating - doing so publicly. Since when is taunting very odd? No offence, But how do u provide evidence for ship just disapearing? Anyway I am just asking for investigation and i would love to hear a statement from Tatann himself. I respect him as a pvp player... so he should just give a statement and hopefully everything will be fine afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry d'Esterre Darby Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Is it possible he alt-f4'd or other form of combat logging.... Would that make his ship vanish like it does with the open world etc or ? It should not, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quineloe Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 No offence, But how do u provide evidence for ship just disapearing? Anyway I am just asking for investigation and i would love to hear a statement from Tatann himself. I respect him as a pvp player... so he should just give a statement and hopefully everything will be fine afterwards. Shadowplay People should really bother setting it up. It's such an amazing tool for this kind of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galileus Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I didn't t take it as s taunt, I took it as it was meant, that he was leaving now,which he promptly did. There is a big, white sign on top of the screen when you can leave the battle. I still don't see what is so "very odd" about this, taunt or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 There is a big, white sign on top of the screen when you can leave the battle. I still don't see what is so "very odd" about this, taunt or not. It about 4 ships shooting in close quarter at an enemy. Its their understanding that he could not have been able to leave due to being hit constantly. Which, in light of tommy's reply, would also be very unlikely to be from just not penetrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatannn Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Hello everybody, yesterday eveing after after puerto de espagna port battle, you tag me with 3 other french captain. it was very too late for me and have to leave to go bed. i know that's i won't be able to escape so i just "sucide me" giving the oportunity to escape for the other french captain. i manage to ram a frigate leading to have a underwater leak in my trincomalee after that, i sail 135° from wind in sailing mode to keep my speed about 3knots preventing to be boardafter i sunk i imediatly leave the battle. this is the thing you think it was an bug or something esle. beaucause i quit just avec i was sunk leading to disapear my ship. I can only take a screen of my 4 dura trincomalee (if wanted ), i know that's not a proof but it's better than nothing ( at least i don't have 5 dura ) Quote to make a notification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 If you say it was from sinking from the ram on brog tatann then that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 The french player called "Tatann" was able to leave a battle in front of Puerto de Espania at 23:42 CET while beeing constantly shot. I want to ask for a detailed investigation of this issue. As far as I am informed no surrenders were accepted. And probably "Tatann" can post exactly what he did. Would be nice though. Cheers Brog Mechanics of the game can be affecting this. 1) If you sink an enemy he can exit the battle. Once he exits the battle sometimes his sinking (dead) ship can disappear from the battle (an old feature that was added to save fps resources in large battles - which is currently considered a bug) without playing the sinking animation. You can always check in TAB interface what happened to the enemy vessel - if it says sank - you got the kill. 2) There is an old legacy system that was allowing heavier ships to exit the battle immediately if the BR difference in battle is big. It was implemented to reduce griefing by constantly tagging heavier ships in a light vessel (POTBS problem). In this case heavier ships can exit the battle during first 2 mins. In your case you most probably sank him and he exited - which made his ship disappear, but it still sank and you can check this in TAB. I think this topic can be locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry d'Esterre Darby Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Brogsitter, does the explanation from Tatann and Admin satisfy you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 AFAIK, if the player then immediately leaves, it will say "escaped" rather than "sank," so unless you are actively watching the TAB window, it is hard to know if the player escaped before sinking. I would consider this a bug: TAB screen should just say "sank" whether the player stays in to observe or leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogsitter Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Hello everybody, yesterday eveing after after puerto de espagna port battle, you tag me with 3 other french captain. it was very too late for me and have to leave to go bed. i know that's i won't be able to escape so i just "sucide me" giving the oportunity to escape for the other french captain. i manage to ram a frigate leading to have a underwater leak in my trincomalee after that, i sail 135° from wind in sailing mode to keep my speed about 3knots preventing to be board after i sunk i imediatly leave the battle. this is the thing you think it was an bug or something esle. beaucause i quit just avec i was sunk leading to disapear my ship. I can only take a screen of my 4 dura trincomalee (if wanted ), i know that's not a proof but it's better than nothing ( at least i don't have 5 dura ) Quote to make a notification Thats fair enough though. Was not able to realize this so fast. So i respectfully tip my hat regarding your decission to sucide yourself to help you mates. Cheers Brog *FILE CLOSED* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry d'Esterre Darby Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Thank you sir! Case dismissed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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