LeBoiteux

C'est ça. NPC = Non Playable Character. Personnage géré par l'IA, ici des bateaux et des batteries de canons sur la côte.

Dans Une histoire de Pirates de Jean-Pierre Moreau (étude sérieuse), il y a la liste des flibustiers et des pirates français ou qui ont travaillé pour la France entre 1520 et 1725 (p. 471-475). Ordre chronologique et 10zaines de noms... Pas le temps ce soir de regarder et de comparer aux noms déjà cités. Mais si quelqu'un a le livre ou une bibliothèque pas loin... http://www.amazon.fr/Une-histoire-pirates-mers-Hollywood/dp/2757804847/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430504672&sr=8-1&keywords=Une+histoire+des+pirates+des+mers+du+sud+à+Hollywood

Lots of beautiful french, english, dutch (...) nautical charts and map : http://gallica.bnf.fr (a french online library) Example : a french 1749 nautical chart of La Martinique (a french Caribbean island) : Chart under Gallica's licence (non-commercial uses are free of charge) : http://gallica.bnf.fr/html/conditions-use-gallicas-contents PS : a collection of small-scale nautical charts (one for each Caribbean island like this one) would be great . PS 2 : to look for charts on this french site, you may need some french words such as : carte nautique, Antilles, XVIII ème siècle and french names of the Islands... You can also type english words for english items...

+1. Belles recherches. Continuez. Va falloir faire une synthèse et créer un post sur le forum international pour les mettre en valeur.

Shallow waters are an exciting issue in terms of gameplay !

You'd better check before that La Néréide's plan isn't subject to a copyright law. Sometimes, a simple hyperlink (with a big title) is a much better option... In that case : http://capebretonsmagazine.com/modules/publisher/item.php?itemid=3811

I did some online research. No big news but some of the informations on which I have relied seem to be misleading : The shipbuilder - Blaise Ollivier was born in 1701 and built his first ship, Le Saint Louis, in 1722, so he couldn't have built Le Chameau in 1717 (at the age of 16)... - He traveled in England and Holland in 1737 where he observed in the yards. Then he wrote a naval treatise (published in 1743). As Le Chameau is said to be an adaptation / improvement of english and dutch plans, the french flute should have been built after his trip in 1737. And Ollivier died in 1746... One web contributor suggested 1744 for the flute... : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Chameau_(voilier) It could be that. On the other hand, Surcouf, Ollivier seems to have worked a bit in Rochefort but longer in Brest. He worked in Brest in 1737. Chances are Le Chameau was built there. His treatise : Despite I haven't read it, Ollivier's treatise seems to be interesting : - first because it presents plans of english and dutch ships (always interesting, isn't it ?) : see pictures / plans of the Twikkelo (1725) and the Nottingham at ancre.fr's web site (see below). - Furthermore, these plans seem quite similar to Le Chameau's... However, if anyone had this treatise or could get it, it could be great. Ancre's introduction to the treatise : "In 1737, Blaise Ollivier, Master Shipwright at Brest, was ordered by Maurepas, the French Minister of the navy, to go to England and Holland in order to find out everything possible about how ships were build there, and what France might usefully imitate. Ollivier's secret mission lasted nearly five months, during which time he visited all the major naval dockyards of both country except Plymouth. At the conclusion he wrote (it)" Treatise at : http://www.musee-marine.fr/content/traite-de-construction (Bibliothèque du Musée de la Marine) http://ancre.fr/en/ouvrages-de-base-en/43-remarques-sur-la-marine-des-anglais-et-hollandais.html Source : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise-Joseph_Ollivier http://gallica.bnf.fr/searchInPeriodique?arkPress=cb32860483w%2Fdate&spe=blaise+ollivier

English term for "Chatte" must be "Catboat", that is a "cat-rigged sailboat, a sailing vessel characterized by a single mast carried well forward, i.e. near the front of the boat". I guess your "chatte" correspond to the Catboat mentioned at http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=22227 I don't know whether or not the flute was built in Rochefort : - To Alex Storm (the treasure hunter who found the wreckage), the flute was built in Rochefort by Blaise Ollivier : e. g. http://capebretonsmagazine.com/modules/publisher/item.php?itemid=3811 - But, some say (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Chameau_(voilier)) : - one Flute was built in 1716 in Hollande, - another in 1717 at Brest by Hubac, - and Ollivier's one would have been built in... 1744. A real mystery .

+1. +1. In the Caribbean, we could also have a Barque longue as a small XVIIth-century vessel : She seems to have been widely used by french sailors in Martinique in late XVIIth-century. Once, french pirate François l'Olonnais built one. George Spurre, an english freebooter, and the dutch buccaneer Laurens de Graff who both participated in the sack of Vera Cruz in May 1683 notably navigated on barques longues. (source : Exquemelin, History of the Bouccaneers of America) On the other hand, the french explorer Cavelier de la Salle took one for his expedition in the Gulf of Mexico (1684). Advantages : shallow draught and high maneuverability for coastal navigation ; small crew. (source)

I found on internet the hypothesis of several contemporary flutes called Le Chameau (in french) : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Chameau_(voilier) Furthermore, threedecks.org identify three Chameau (one catboat without any gun and two "fifth-rate Flutes" with 40 and 36 guns) before Chapman's 1765 plan : http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=ships_search The longitudinal view of La Néréide, Chameau's sister ship according to A. Storm, looks more accurate than Chapman's plan for a 40-guns flute : http://capebretonsmagazine.com/modules/publisher/item.php?itemid=3811 with her two gun-decks and 42 guns : http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=11302 Anybody knows ?

Monograph of L'Aurore with pictures and plans (31 drawings) : http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/23-monographie-fregate-legere-l-aurore-1697.html Excerpt in french (with drawings on p. 2) : Download (370.3k)

French Flute "Le Chameau" (Camel), 1717 Launched : 1717 Fate : 1725 (sank after being swept onto the rocks by a storm) Displacement : 540-650 tons Keel : 135 ft (41,1 m) Beam : 31 ft (9,4 m) Draught : 15 ft (4,6 m) Armament : 44 guns (twenty 12-pounder cannons (lower gun deck), two more in the stern and twenty-two 6-pounders (upper deck)) "Due to the threat of war (...) large flutes like the Chameau were fitted to carry extra artillery so they could travel the seas without naval escort. In fact, (she) often served as an escort for other vessels." Designed by french naval architect Blaise Ollivier, after visiting English and Dutch shipyards : "Combining French construction principles with those he had observed in the yards along the Thames and the Zuiderzee, (he) modified the ship's lines and redistributed shipboard batteries, making for a faster vessel with increased cargo capacity." "One of the fastest and best equipped ships in the royal navy of France." Assignment : carriage of supplies, people and funds from France to Quebec and Louisbourg. She had aboard a number of French dignitaries, including the new Intendant of Canada, Me de Chazel. Wreckage located by treasure Hunter Alex Storm in 1965. Alex Storm's ship model and Le Chameau's sister ship, La Néréide (1724) (poor quality pictures) http://capebretonsmagazine.com/modules/publisher/item.php?itemid=3811 About Le Chameau http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ship_Chameau http://capebretonsmagazine.com/modules/publisher/item.php?itemid=3809 http://www.blupete.com/Hist/Gloss/Chameau.htm http://cbmuseums.tripod.com/LMM.html (Model pictures and plans needed...) About camels... Seven ships of the Royal Navy have borne the name HMS Camel, after the camel. ( source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Camel ) + A "Ship camel" is an "external floatation tank that can be fitted to a ship to increase her buoyancy or reduce her draught". Invented in 1690 by Maeuwis Meindertsz Bakker (Amsterdam). ( source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_Camel )

To me, devs should put in lots of random events of every kind (dangers or opportunities) to stimulate gamer's interest : - political events : changes of alliances, declarations of wars... - meteorological events : storms... - ship events : mutiny, crew illness ; random ship damages ; - events with npc : combat vs pirates, diplomacy with natives... - events related to navigation : sandy / rocky shoals, navigational instruments failures... - quests for explorers (on the basis of clues, such as rumors, travel stories...) - Etc.

Sorry for my misunderstanding .

I guess it was just a misunderstanding : - Henry d'Esterre Darby and I thought that this thread was about "Depth of field", that is a real optical phenomenon related to zoom lens that occurs in real life in movies and photography, (I think DOF is purposeless in NA, except for the telescope view) - while Wind was talking about "Tilt-Shift", an artistic effect for photography and some games (such as Game Labs' Ultimate General Gettysburg) that artistically twists the concept of 'Depth of field'. I don't like that effect but it's just a matter of taste... So why not as an option ?

Hi, is there a reason why French barque "La Belle"1680 (With Plans) isn't added ?

Most of the ships in the pre-alpha game are from Napoleonic era. I don't know whether or not it prefigures the content of the finished product. I don't think so : "Ship line-up: 16th Century to the end of Napoleonic Wars" (http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/11-game-introduction/?p=20) And I personally hope not because I prefer XVII-th century ships because of... their naval sculptures, their aesthetics. It should be easily solved by a "simple" system of ship class/ranks (with the planned instanced battles), shouldn't it ? (e.g. 1st Rate XVIIth-century ships vs 2nd or 3rd Rate XIXth-century ships, if ever XIXth-century ships are really that overpowered (of that I don't know)).

Par exemple et pour rêver, en dehors de ce que tu mentionnes : 1) organiser l'expédition en amont, notamment en : - faisant une recherche rapide (à partir de rumeurs, de récits de voyage...) pour localiser l'objectif de l'exploration : un site archéologique, des artefacts anciens, une épave, un trésor, une espèce rare (plante, animal...), - recrutant un équipage selon ses compétences, - choisissant un bateau d'explo en fonction des besoins en termes de tirant d'eau, d'espace de stockage... (gabare, barque...) 2) explorer à terre pour cartographier et trouver les artefacts, 3) faire de la diplomatie avec des tribus pour le ravitaillement, 4) gérer l'équipage (notamment son moral et son expérience) pour éviter casses, mutinerie, naufrage... 5) devoir traverser un grand nombre de dangers aléatoires (tempêtes, bancs de sables, npc pirates, casses du bateau ou des instruments de navigation, maladie de l'équipage...). Bref : risquer de perdre son bateau autant qu'un officier de la Royale ou qu'un pirate... 6) gérer le stock de nourriture et d'eau pour l'équipage (en lien avec le moral), 7) gérer l'état du rafiot (en termes de couts et de risques), 8) choisir ou non d'être escorté, 9) une navigation (simplifiée ?) aux instruments, ... et on peut surement trouver 20 autres idées...

Tilt-shift is above all an effect for (2D) photography. As an artistic effect, it is a matter of taste... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt–shift_photography) So why not in NA as an option in the graphics panel ? Personally, I've disabled this option while playing Ultimate General Gettysburg... (Pictures : http://www.ultimategeneral.com/blog/ultimate-general-pre-release-patch-3) To me, it looks too artificial. The map of Ultimate General Gettysburg has looked quite "2D". And UG Gettysburg Devs wrote in patch notes : "Tilt-Shift: We’ve deployed the first version of our unique image filter that makes the battlefield appear more 3D" To them, it was a way of "enhancing 3D depth". Not sure that is necessary for NA.

That's it. By the way, I think that would be just a cosmetic enhancement but a quite immersive one.

+1. That's why I was talking about the telescope view : But I don't know whether or not XVIII / XIXth-century telescopes generated DOF...

I guess any weather condition plays a role too.

Isn't it a matter of size (of the object) and distance, and not of DOF ?

DOF could be great for telescope view (if historically accurate). Otherwise, I don't really see the point of it : most of the time, captains will focus on long range target.

Tu as une autre lecture que moi sur le développement de ce jeu, mais tu as peut-être plus d'info que moi. Et mon analyse est toute personnelle puisque je ne suis pas dans le secret des dieux. Moi, ce que je vois, c'est une politique des petits pas : on teste en pré-alpha le système de combat, puis (bientôt) la mise à l'eau de bateaux dans un monde plus vaste, puis il y a aura une troisième, une quatrième.. étapes... etc. Le développement semble suivre de petites avancées très prudentes et je n'ai pas l'impression de tester un jeu à chaque fois mais de tester une mécanique de ce jeu à la fois, ce qui ne préjuge(rait) pas du résultat final. Mais c'est "Just my opinion", comme disent les anglisch