pietjenoob

What imaginairy British fleet are you talking a boot. Never seen you so far and with the current mechanics 7 people is more than enough to fill a PB. 7 people should be duable if i have seen more people than 7 going for port.

Nah, u are now overreacting, only a total of 10 active RvR/pvp joined sweden, the same amount too to Prussia your big cuddlebear, then again every time is fair play to people who are yelling from their docks to save them, but arranging everything from their desk and say they told people, also why aren't you attacking La Blanquilla so far i saw French no Dutch, whilst claiming to be Dutch??

Thanks for the bumperboat battle

Don't get me wrong about that part they had some nice/good ships, but it is the fact that one of the most importanted/influencial nation at the time is only represented by name and not by ship, not even a small fishing ship/trader like the Hoeker for example (good alternative for the current Tbrig) is not there. If I am done early today I will post of fishing vessels who also were adapted to trade. Those ships have all contested the North Sea, some the Baltic sea and others the world seas. And I will not put in the Fluyt again, since there like 9 main variants of it and numerous sub variant of the 17th century version alone.

The most significant nations during this time were: Great Britain, 7 Vereenigde Proviciën aka the Republic, France, Spain/Portugal. Then u get the medditeranian sea and the Baltic sea with the Ventia, Sweden, Danmark-Norway, the Ottomans, Russia, Barbary Privateers/Pyrates roughly in that order. And upcoming the United States. Also the one of the most used shipdesign at that time, the famous dutch design the Fluyt. I do get they want ships of significant nation, but I don't get why one of the wealthiest nations thanks to trade and ships is still lacking any 'self produced' ships, so far we have only a modified copy of Dutch ships. But instead of adding a proper Dutch design they want to add minor nations/city states, and yes I am looking at Sweden, Prussia, Hamburg, Russia and Danmark-Norway.

Well the smaller battle was even more interesting, although not fair on the amount of ships, but the type and build made it more fair. Then again GG by the Danish, Russian and Pirates

Well, Dutch ships has been promised as far i am aware is back in sea trails and yet multiple ships have been added which of which are of either minor nations like Hamburg or one of the already 'over-represented'. Not even a small trader of which the Dutch are famous for.... only some knock off ships so far with the Indiaman,and the Yacht. We have even on the trader ships with the same amount of guns as a 3rd rate or sol 4th, the 68 gun Pieter Paulus (1800)of which plans are posted off, but even the most used trader at the time the Fluit or Fluyt is not ingame. And even then the poll missed it complete target by including ships of already represented nation like the French, American and British for example.

Don't forget the new guys

Posted the sources.

On the quick research I did she probaly had in Dutch service her 9 pdr, but in british service she had 6 pdr. As far I am aware of the British had a tendancy to underpower Dutch ships by one caliber. She was captured at the surrender of Saldanda bay in 1796. Wil post later my sources. Btw note the 3 different names they used for her. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitulation_of_Saldanha_Bay https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=1733 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_sloop_Havik_(1784)

Get a gunboat

Those are relatively minor nations, the 7 Vereenigde Provinciën for example has none, not even in development, so what you are saying is not really being good backed up the Swedish have 2 ships and danish one in development

i have a better one as a 3rd rate the Dutch Pieter Paulus, 68 gun ship https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=16337

Well for ingame we can actually have two different variants, the 80 gunner and the 90 gunner, then it is the name you want to pick for the 80 I prefer the most Wreker or Chattam and for the 90 gunner the Admiraal de Ruyter would be nice.

I was today a newby in a full German PB

If you really want to put up a poll which is according to the Devs specs then, you need to get rid of the Nikolai, Venus, Hms Leopard, Téméraire and the HMS Foudroyant. Then this poll would be more usefull then it is right now since we have ships of nations that are already represented/overrepresented.

The Dutch side of Cabal joined because of the lack of people, fun, long sailing time and the terrible communication, organisation.

Well only for the carebears the nation is not a clan. For them the nation is there 'safezone'.

And yet they are for the Carebears around who don't want to play on the PvE server and complaining

\ Thank you Danish for the nice fight

My favorite ships would either be the Wreker or the Vrijheid, i believe my vote is on the Vrijheid, but that is also partially due helping Steel from time to time and also knowing the history and underappreciation of the Dutch in a lot of other games, which are history based.

i don't throw away votes I just take the underrepresented nations as was asked by Admin, so then some votes indeed will be getting in the void like in real life

1.Montañés-class (1794, Spanish 74-gun 3rd rate) 24.50 2.Wreker-class (1798, Dutch 80-gun 3rd rate) 19.96 3.Venus, Bellona-class (1783, Swedish 40-gun frigate) 3.63 4.Friderichsværn (1784, Danish 36-gun frigate) 2.72 5.Princesa Real (1819, Portuguese 50-gun frigate) 2.72 6.Wenden (1706, Danish 70-gun 3rd rate) 2.00 7.Vrijheid-class (1782, Dutch 74-gun 3rd rate) 1.85 8.Göta Lejon (1746, Swedish 74-gun 3rd rate) 1.45 Then I you have the more underrepresented nation, but then u still could remove the Swedish ship then you will have the Dutch 32 gun Euridice. Although the wenden might not get ingame since age then u have a tie between the Fama and the Delft

and if you take out the French, American, Russian and British ships

And apart from all the rum, vodka and what not. The game is also about moral. And I didn't do a lot of pvp boarding battles but it seemed that the moral wasn't coming back up again. I have seen guys with over half of the ship crew alive being captured with a first rate, due bad use/mis use of the moral. The best defense for moral is funly enough the marines they take something like up to 50% of the moral damage. Not counting any modifiers.