maturin Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I would assume so. I'm at work, and a brief search through my phone reveals little more than what the wiki states, only echoed across 2-3 other sites. She did serve at least three years in French service, so she must have been rearmed, as I doubt the French would let a 74 go willy nilly with inadequate firepower. I did find this though, gave some more detail on her: http://3decks.pbworks.com/w/page/916130/USS%20America%20(1782) IIRC this version of 3decks is more up to date. You can see that the French supposedly retained the same armament, although without context from the source one can never be sure. http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorado71 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 That same book, "History of the American Sailing Navy" by Howard Chapelle, with all those plans wonderfully scanned is now available as ebook for online borrow at Open Library. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Valkenburg Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 That same book, "History of the American Sailing Navy" by Howard Chapelle, with all those plans wonderfully scanned is now available as ebook for online borrow at Open Library. It's currently checked out (by you?), so I hope someone is making good use of all those scanned drafts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haratik Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 That same book, "History of the American Sailing Navy" by Howard Chapelle, with all those plans wonderfully scanned is now available as ebook for online borrow at Open Library. Is it the original book though, or a reprint? All the plans I posted above were from a reprinted copy. I was told the original is very hard to find, unless you're willing to fork out $300 or so for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorado71 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Published 1949, by Bonanza Books, New York. It can be copied on your computer, page to page, using GadwinPrintScreen freeware. Edited January 23, 2016 by colorado71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haratik Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 If it is the original, and the plans of the larger vessels can be scanned completely without error or blemish, then please, add them here, as the ones I posted are marred by the book binding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorado71 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Yes is checked out by me. Be ready to borrow it in a few minutes. It's currently checked out (by you?), so I hope someone is making good use of all those scanned drafts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprof739 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Are there plans for any of the later USN ships of the Line, like the 90 Gun USS Independence or the 74s like the Franklin or Washington? I would love to see, an American SOL in the game one day. Obviously I know that US ships make a large part of the current line up, but eventually an American 3rd rate would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haratik Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) Are there plans for any of the later USN ships of the Line, like the 90 Gun USS Independence or the 74s like the Franklin or Washington? I would love to see, an American SOL in the game one day. Obviously I know that US ships make a large part of the current line up, but eventually an American 3rd rate would be nice.I take it you didn't bother to read the first three posts did you? The Franklin is there, fourth post down.The book did include a copy of the Independence's razee'd plan, but the timestamp is why I did not post it here. Edited January 24, 2016 by Hairy Fishnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean LaPointe Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I got more of her together including the stern trim. Enjoy! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haratik Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 She is nice, but like some of the others here, I'm not so much a fan of the design of the period. Ah well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haratik Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 This is purportedly a painting done of the USS America when she entered Brest Harbor. Note the stern artwork, different than the model shown earlier, am wondering if this was an exaggeration on the part of the painter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Note the stern artwork, different than the model shown earlier, am wondering if this was an exaggeration on the part of the painter. No doubt. Mast rake and placement are totally stylized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haratik Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 The OP of these next few images did his work in MS Paint (over a two month period). I'm not sure what I'm accomplishing by posting them, maybe just fleshing out the America just a little more... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haratik Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 IIRC this version of 3decks is more up to date. You can see that the French supposedly retained the same armament, although without context from the source one can never be sure. http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2010 Have a look at the additional source listed on this page. Wonder if some of our French counterparts can find this book: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2010 NNF-1774 Nomenclature des Navires Français de 1774 à 1792 Alain Demerliac Book 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean LaPointe Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 The thing I have notice with modeling the USS North Carolina is she is like the Constitution on steroids. The designs that emerged after 1815 started to be standardized with similar lines to them where the differences were the number of decks. The latter group of 74's designed look so much alike. The deck furniture hadn't varied much from the frigate classes of the time. I have another model I am going to start and she is a favorite of mine, more on that one later.Her lines are of the mid 1700's and a real beauty. The later half of the 18th century has, in my opinion, some of the most beautiful ships built. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Connor Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 The reason Constitution and the North Carolina look so similar is that they are both based on the same design. One is Humphreys' design for a 74 (frigate version) and the other is Humpheys' design for a 74 (enlarged version). And of course North Carolina isn't a 74 at all but rather a 94 gun ship the size of the Santisima, the US rating system was absurdly conservative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Valkenburg Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 One is Humphreys' design for a 74 (frigate version) and the other is Humpheys' design for a 74 (enlarged version). And of course North Carolina isn't a 74 at all but rather a 94 gun ship the size of the Santisima, the US rating system was absurdly conservative. The United States of America - "supersizing" it since 1794! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean LaPointe Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 LOL, first the frigates then the french fries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Sure that thing's got enough sail? Good cripes. :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justme Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Sure that thing's got enough sail? Good cripes. :lol Only sailing ship capable of ludicrous speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Only sailing ship capable of ludicrous speed More like ship desperate to keep moving while the captain stand on the taffrail with a hairdryer pointed upwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutbutterjelly101 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Hi I have some questions regarding ships. 1. Will there be a unique ship exclusive for each nation in the future? 2.Can we craft each unique ship if there will be any? 3.If there's already a unique ship planned for America then what kind of ship would it be?(ex. Pirate Frigate). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 no limitations by nation. each ship is unique in stats by choosung the trimm when building and wood typ in the background multiple Moduls gets added randomly that are hidden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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