Brigand Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Thought it would be nice to gather the ever growing list of ships into a nice spreadsheet. If you spot any errors, please let me know (I intent on keeping this up-to-date). Note: Historic broadside weight listed in English pounds, converted from national units of weight: Cheers, Brigand Edited January 17, 2016 by Brigand updated table 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles-René Magon Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Thanks, But it's La RenomméE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigand Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Thanks, But it's La RenomméE Thanks, updated. (I honestly just copied the name from some post by admin) Any other errors in the data? ~Brigand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Will we ever get the ship specs like (Reload, damage etc..) anyone knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 List of ship types: http://www.thepirateking.com/ships/ship_types.htm All 1-4 rates should be Man of War type I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles-René Magon Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Surprise/Le Unite It's L'Unité. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_86 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Shouldn't the snow have to be called simply "snow"? IIRC our Snow is based on the Ontario, but sooner or later the real Ontario will be included in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigand Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) It's L'Unité. Updated Shouldn't the snow have to be called simply "snow"? IIRC our Snow is based on the Ontario, but sooner or later the real Ontario will be included in the game Updated, in compromise (I think it is useful to preserve the information that the in-game snow is based on the HMS Ontario List of ship types: http://www.thepirateking.com/ships/ship_types.htm All 1-4 rates should be Man of War type I believe. I know the website, it is not the most informed information so to say. A 'Man of War' was a general (laymen) term to describe a war ship. The term is mostly associated with the 17th century. Cheers, Brigand Edited February 12, 2015 by Brigand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flibustier Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Thought it would be nice to gather the ever growing list of ships into a nice spreadsheet (I intent on keeping this up-to-date): Cerberus has already been added to the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladerunner Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I'm not that far in the game, to have most of the ships, but historically you should make some corrections. Surprise was a corvette, but listed as a 28-gun frigate and a sixth-rate after 1798 bye the RN after capture. Constitution had nominally just 44-guns and would have been a fifth-rate in RN. After 1817, when RN included carronades in the counting, she would have been fourth-rate, but never a third-rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Can someone post picture of the La Renomme because there is a two decker that pops up every time i search i i really want it to be that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surcouf Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 There are four frigates which are called the Renommée. Frigate of 8-pdr = 1744Frigate of 12-pdr = 1767Frigate of 18-pdr = 1805Frigate of 60-gun of 30-pdr = 1826 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallas-class_frigate_(1808) since we still dont know wich Renommée. Can someone post picture of the La Renomme because there is a two decker that pops up every time i search i i really want it to be that one 1794: Pallas Class 1808: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigand Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Surprise was a corvette, but listed as a 28-gun frigate and a sixth-rate after 1798 bye the RN after capture. Constitution had nominally just 44-guns and would have been a fifth-rate in RN. After 1817, when RN included carronades in the counting, she would have been fourth-rate, but never a third-rate. and Cerberus has already been added to the game Thanks, updated. ~Brigand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surcouf Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallas-class_frigate_(1808) since we still dont know wich Renommée. 1794: Pallas Class 1808: The first photo = Renommé of 1744: http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/20-monographie-de-la-renommee-fregate-de-8-1744.html The second photo = The Thétis 18-pdr, laid down 1813 lancé 1819, struck from lists 1866 (model to MNM of Rochefort) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagann Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Nice work Brigand. I would add a column for the nations, to know which nation the ships belong to, such as : UK, USA, Spain, France 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueEagleGER Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I think you should name Bellona and upwards ships of the line. Every vessel listed is a "ship", this term is far to general. The rigging should be changed into "full-rigged" for all of the frigates and SoLs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigand Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Nice work Brigand. I would add a column for the nations, to know which nation the ships belong to, such as : UK, USA, Spain, France Yeah, that would be a good idea. I may need a little help with that though and I'm not sure on how to list the nation for vessels that where captured and recommissioned? I think you should name Bellona and upwards ships of the line. Every vessel listed is a "ship", this term is far to general. The rigging should be changed into "full-rigged" for all of the frigates and SoLs. Well, no, far from it. A brig is not a ship, not even ship rigged. A frigate is a ship rigged vessel, but they differ from a ship in hull lines, so they are not a 'ship' in the 17th and 18th century sense of the word either. Also, a 'ship' is by definition 'fully rigged' the introduction of the term 'fully rigged ship' did not emerge until the widespread introduction of 'steam ships'. The term was used to differentiate between the opposed 'tall ships' (which also included barks and barkentines). I'm not making up this terminology, instead I apply the terminology as used in the age of sail. ~Brigand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagann Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Yeah, that would be a good idea. I may need a little help with that though and I'm not sure on how to list the nation for vessels that where captured and recommissioned? ~Brigand For example : May be color should be saved only for the nations . I'm afraid it becomes unreadable with too much colors But without color in names, chronological order should be chosen : L'Unité / Surprise instead of Surprise/L'Unité. Don't know whats guys you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flibustier Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Would suggest in the first column to indicate the original name of the ship on the language of the country to which it belongs, not only in English. Mercury (Меркурий) Ingermanland (Ингерманланд) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigand Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Would suggest in the first column to indicate the original name of the ship on the language of the country to which it belongs, not only in English. Mercury (Меркурий) Ingermanland (Ингерманланд) Done, although I'm not sure my current layout is the most helpful. Cheers, Brigand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flibustier Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Done Thanks. I think column "Nation" will look logical after the columns "name" "english" Chapman yacht is a swedish ship? not sure "Bellona" - Great Britain, not France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prater Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Yacht now has 35 crew. Privateer schooner is probably American. Did they change the cutter? I thought it had 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigand Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Thanks. I think column "Nation" will look logical after the columns "name" "english" Chapman yacht is a swedish ship? not sure "Bellona" - Great Britain, not France Updated. Yeah, the Chapman yacht is Swedish, or at least, Chapman was Swedish and the yacht in the game is based on his plans in his Architectura Navalis (plan 44, vessel nr. 3). ~Brigand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueEagleGER Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Ok, I didn´t know that ship-rigged was the old term for full rigged. As a German it sounds that stupid that I thought "It has to be wrong". But the old term "ship" was used for every vessel with 3 or more square rigged masts + bowsprite, nevertheless Bellona, Victory Santissima and the future "big Boys" are Ships of the Line in type. I hope that the confusion is over now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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