SeaMist Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Not playing your games. I know what I and many others like. Leave us alone. Go back to your bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taranis Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I don't think there should be a pve server. At most - if some players just do not want to take part in pvp, there should be a selection at character generation that forevermore exempts them from any pvp (include port battle dynamics) and these players should be color coded / tagged correspondingly in the OW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMist Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I don't think there should be a pve server. At most - if some players just do not want to take part in pvp, there should be a selection at character generation that forevermore exempts them from any pvp (include port battle dynamics) and these players should be color coded / tagged correspondingly in the OW. Marked for life...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean LaPointe Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 The one big mechanical difference between the two formats is the PB. If you do not have a 3rd rate, for the most part, you don't participate in a PB. Then once you do a port battle you go for the next and again and again and again. Ground Hog Day on the PvP. Look, each server has its own uniqueness. Don't tell me PvE is pointless and I will not tell you PvP is pointless. You have a world YOU enjoy to be in and I have the world "I" enjoy to be in. There is a good number of people in the PvE server that enjoy the mechanics there - no matter how superior you think yourself to be because you go up against "real" people. "there should be a selection at character generation that forevermore exempts them from any pvp (include port battle dynamics) and these players should be color coded / tagged correspondingly in the OW". WHAT? This what the PvE server is for, why are PvPers need to have everyone on ONE server? You guys have made a mess of it and then blame those of us who are on a different server for your problems. Really, just because you Do Not like PvE quit hating who do. What in the world are you trying to accomplish by demeaning the PvE format??? The best I can see is discontent with the PvP players. You have your own Sandbox, stay out of OURS! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels__Juel Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I find this thread ridiculous, it´s typical someone does not understand how someone else doesn't enjoy the same sport, politics or gameplay that he or she does, so they either attempt to ridicule them by saying in this case, PvE is pointless, or force them to play the game the way they like it (more victims to gank), instead of just leave them be with the playing style they enjoy. Leave the PvE server to the players who enjoy that style of game, and go out and try to recruit people for the PvP servers, instead of ruining other players fun. Only realistic way to merge PvE and PvP, would be to introduce an untag PvP button, so the player is not attackable by other players, and can sail around in peace without having to look over the shoulder constantly, exactly as it would be on the PvE server. Peace. Niels Juel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macjimm Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I find this thread ridiculous, it´s typical someone does not understand how someone else doesn't enjoy the same sport, politics or gameplay that he or she does, so they either attempt to ridicule them by saying in this case, PvE is pointless, or force them to play the game the way they like it (more victims to gank), instead of just leave them be with the playing style they enjoy. Leave the PvE server to the players who enjoy that style of game, and go out and try to recruit people for the PvP servers, instead of ruining other players fun. Only realistic way to merge PvE and PvP, would be to introduce an untag PvP button, so the player is not attackable by other players, and can sail around in peace without having to look over the shoulder constantly, exactly as it would be on the PvE server. Peace. Niels Juel. Trouble is that some players seem to think that if we can remove players from one server they will move to another. Those opposed to PvE (or to PvP2) mistakenly believe that providing the freedom to play on a separate server is reducing the number of players in PvP1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chustler Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Thread might as well be asking "Is video gaming pointless" Answer, yes. It's all just for fun. Let people play their pointless games the way they want and do the same yourselves. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Ribault Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Thread might as well be asking "Is video gaming pointless" Answer, yes. It's all just for fun. Let people play their pointless games the way they want and do the same yourselves. I totally agree with that. This has to be the stupidest thread on this forum. Perhaps at one time it had a purpose, but that's long gone. Why not just close it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taranis Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The one big mechanical difference between the two formats is the PB. If you do not have a 3rd rate, for the most part, you don't participate in a PB. Then once you do a port battle you go for the next and again and again and again. Ground Hog Day on the PvP. Look, each server has its own uniqueness. Don't tell me PvE is pointless and I will not tell you PvP is pointless. You have a world YOU enjoy to be in and I have the world "I" enjoy to be in. There is a good number of people in the PvE server that enjoy the mechanics there - no matter how superior you think yourself to be because you go up against "real" people. WHAT? This what the PvE server is for, why are PvPers need to have everyone on ONE server? You guys have made a mess of it and then blame those of us who are on a different server for your problems. Really, just because you Do Not like PvE quit hating who do. What in the world are you trying to accomplish by demeaning the PvE format??? The best I can see is discontent with the PvP players. You have your own Sandbox, stay out of OURS! PvE players can add value to a PvP server, through the development of a larger community/economy. The two population groups do not have to be mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean LaPointe Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 PvE players can add value to a PvP server, through the development of a larger community/economy. The two population groups do not have to be mutually exclusive. I am begining to think there is a misconception here on both of us. Are you talking about individuals who rather chase AI in the PvP servers as PvE's? Or are you talking about the PvE server and those play in a world that has no connection to the PvP servers at all? I ask this as the PvE server, which was the beginning of this thread, was being touted as pointless. It has nothng what so ever to do with the PvP servers so your remark above leads me to think you are talking about something else totally different. I was under the impression when I am on the PvP server I was playing PvP. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMist Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 PvE players can add value to a PvP server, through the development of a larger community/economy. The two population groups do not have to be mutually exclusive. Ah yes, but for PVE players the PVP part does not add value at all.....more the opposite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMist Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I will go a step further. On the PVE server there is no PVP. Most of us have made an active choice to avoid the PVP environment and I have to say the comments here do not encourage me to try it. On the PVP server in terms of combat you can choose PVE, PVP or a mix of both. On the PVP server, for those that do not wish PVP there is no choice. It's open world. Get ganked everytime you take a trader out...what joy. The PVP guys just seem to want more victims and see the PVE guys as easy prospective prey. But if you don't want PVP, making someone have it will simply result in a mass exodus. You can't inflict a play style on a person against their will. From what I have heard on these forums I would rather stick my head in a blender than join PVP1. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Budd Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I might be a late comer to this game, but having read through most of the topics on this forum, there seems to be quite a lot of back stabbing from people who prefer playing on the PvP server aimed towards those that prefer to play alone, on the PvE server. From what I have read so far, I am quite happy to remain playing alone, on the Pve. I have enjoyed what I am able to do so far, without interference from gankers or other players, who just want to fight each other, rather than the AI. I don't yet understand half of this game, such as how to start off crafting, or creating buildings to produced goods, which will enable me to set up trading. If someone could PM me and give me some info on these parts of the game, I would appreciate it. I have made most of my money so far, by fishing and catching a number of bottles which have enabled me to collect quite a few goodies . Maybe because I am 72 years old, I much prefer the gentler side to this game and can enjoy just doing battles with the AI and taking on some contraband traders and sail around the map fishing and picking up another bottle I might happen to drop on. So for all those who are happy fighting each other who want to be in the thick of the action, just stop hankering those players, who are quite happy to remain with PvE. It's a matter of choice. Not everyone is attracted to multiplayer gaming, many people much prefer to go it alone, so they can choose what part of thr game to spend their time playing. One session I might do a bit of fishing, other sessions I will take of a few traders, or fight a few AI battles. All knowing that you are in a safe environment, without the chance of loosing your latest pride and joy that you have spent many thousands to acquire. Help with crafting/building would be appreciated, please PM me. Thank you. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhammer500 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Ah yes, but for PVE players the PVP part does not add value at all.....more the opposite. Maybe because we do not want the drama or hassle PVP brings with it? Sure we miss out on the role play of warfare or the danger of hostile waters, but i do not want to be stuck in a capital port for fear of losing my production and shipyards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnovotny6 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I've been playing mainly on the PVE server, with characters on PVP, as well. However, I've noticed a severe drop since the implementation of NO-CAP. I remember user numbers being in the 200's, but now it's a good day if you get more than 100 users logged into PVE. Is it time to do away with PVE? Merge it with PVP, so those of us with assets don't lose them? my suggestion is to do away with anyone who suggests to do away with PvE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Ribault Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 ... Maybe because I am 72 years old, I much prefer the gentler side to this game and can enjoy just doing battles with the AI and taking on some contraband traders and sail around the map fishing and picking up another bottle I might happen to drop on. So for all those who are happy fighting each other who want to be in the thick of the action, just stop hankering those players, who are quite happy to remain with PvE. It's a matter of choice. Not everyone is attracted to multiplayer gaming, many people much prefer to go it alone, so they can choose what part of thr game to spend their time playing. One session I might do a bit of fishing, other sessions I will take of a few traders, or fight a few AI battles. All knowing that you are in a safe environment, without the chance of loosing your latest pride and joy that you have spent many thousands to acquire. ... Well said, also simple and true. Unfortunately this opinion is not shared by many who want to dictate to you that you must participate in Teamspeak, port battles, fleet battles, and any other pvp war at the selected moment, just so they can crush everyone else around and because that's what they like to do. (There appear to be a lot of them here in this game.) They don't seem to grasp that this game has a lot to offer for everyone both pvp and pve, together as a team or solo as you prefer, and as you so well described above. The devs have inserted quite a few features to help the solo player (and the mostly-solo player) enjoy the game. It's surely not by accident. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Budd Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 It is almost a month now, since I first started playing NA and although I find crafting a bit of a bind, I have decided to leave that part of the game, to the more experienced. Most of my money has been made from buying and selling Tobacco & Sugar from different ports around the whole map. I always keep the fishing activated on my travels and this commodity alone, has also made me a few million. I have not bothered with producing my own goods from Buildings, because I can make money faster by trading. I have eight different outposts that cover all areas of the map and have at least four ships based at each port. These include Trader Briggs, in the areas that have mostly shallow water ports. My other outposts have large trader ships. "Le Gros Ventre" and" Indiaman's", which can carry much larger loads. I have at least one 5th rate warship at each port, which I use for challenging Contraband AI Traders. My main two outposts are at Kingston Port Royal and Carlilse, where I have my larger ships docked. These include the "Victory", "L'Ocean", "Agamemnon", "St Pavel" and the "3rd Rate". I also have the "Constitution", "Trincomalee", "Surprise" "Essex" and a number of fifth/sixth rates including the "Remonee", "Rattlesnake", "Mercury", "Snow" and "Navy Brig". All these ships are of the Exceptional build quality and all were bought at Port Royal from those that crafted them. I then sailed some of them to my various outposts as fleet ships with my trader ships. I still have over 5 million gold in my cash reserves and the only thing I am lacking at the moment is my higher rank and enough crew to man my larger ships, I am half way to reaching my next rank of Post Captain with just over 5000 XP. Most of my XP points have been gained from sailing around and I have visited almost every port on the map. I sale under the Smuggler Flag with my trade ships, which allows me to enter any foreign port. I have scattered around my warehouses 16 unopened sealed bottles that I have gathered on my travels and open one every now and then, just to discover another wreck and its booty. Just lately though since the last patch, the booty reward has dropped and there doesn't seem to be any upgrades like there was before the patch. Maybe the devs were being too generous. As a change from trading, I have been using my 5th & 6th rate ships, to attack lone contraband traders and have captured quite a few Brigs & Snows with some pretty decent rewards and others, who managed to escape with a small amount of damage, usually because I got stuck against the wind, allowing the AI to get too far out of range. This has also added to my gold rewards and boosted my rank and officer XP. So why should I leave the PvE server and move to the PvP, where all this would not be possible to achieve, without getting ganked or set upon by other players who just like to take on any one they can pick a fight with. No thank you, I am quite happy to play this game alone, so I can do what I like, when I like, without interfering with other players. I have never been a fan of multiplayer games because there are always those that don't want to play by the rules of consideration, that, not everyone likes to be fighting battles all the time. There is much more to this game than blasting cannon balls at each other, and that is enjoying what else the game has to offer. In my case, to enjoy the beautiful modeled ships and the rest of the environment that this game is set in. The graphics are truly realistic and I have yet to see a better sea in any other game. I am sure I am not alone in what I have stated here, a game no matter what its genre, is to give pleasure to those that play it, whether they choose to play with friends on multiplayer, or those that prefer to play against the AI. If the PvE server is dropped from this game, then I'm afraid I will just have to find something else to get my enjoyment from. I have always liked sailing ships ever since I first went on board the Victory as a small boy, then joined the Royal Navy at the age of 15 as a boy seaman at HMS Ganges, back in 1959. with 22 years of sailing the worlds oceans, you could say, the sea is in my blood. I am now 72 years of age sailing the seas again on from the comfort of my living room. There are quite a few people who have posted on this thread who much prefer playing on the PvE server and although the majority may prefer PvP then that is your choice, but please don't take away the enjoyment of those that like to play solo against the AI, which can be just as enjoyable to those of us who like a bit of action now and again, in a safer environment. As I have demonstrated here, this game has a lot of different options, depending on how you want to play it and all I want to say is. It's YOUR CHOICE to how you want to play it. Everyone is different and like to play games the way they enjoy playing them. It would be interesting to know how many of you have visited all the ports in the game, not that many I imagine. Lay up your guns, take a break from fighting and get some sea time in. You will be surprised what beautiful scenery this game provides. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallsOfSteel Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 PVE provides an environment where those of all nations work in a world together. Actively swapping and trading, enjoying the world as it is. I believe NA needs to have an online campaign and reward missions such as escorts and trade runs. Be it scripted or dynamic this will allow long term longevity for both servers PVE provides a world where players can enjoy this game without the toxic and often hostile PVP environment which replicates the real world today, This game is in development and yet we have already seen the traits of backstabbing, alt accounts, spying and other online behavior expected of a bunch of 15 year olds well established on PvP servers. I like many do not play games in this manner yet we are asked to tolerate a bunch of players acting like "Tools". On PVE they simple do not exist as there is no bragging rights there for them to seek. Most games with a PVP element always become toxic, its only a matter of time. It doesn't matter what the theme is. PVE is here to stay and will always provide a decent and good place to play the game. If the servers are merged and areas set aside all well and good. Just let us know well in advance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Budd Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Well said Balls of Steel, I think the majority of PvE players are of the older generation, where as those that prefer playing PvP are mostly the younger generation, which attracts groups of friends for multiplayer gaming. Multiplayer gaming seems to be the trend these days, but not everyone wants to get involved with Multiplayer. Every new game should always cater for both options. There is nothing wrong with solo players taking on the AI in any game, be it car racing games or any other type of game. One game that I have played for a long time now, is Silent Hunter 3, which has given me hours of pleasure just playing alone against the AI. This game still has a very strong following and even has more players than the later version of the game, Silent Hunter 5. Although SH5 is more interactive as far as being able to wander through the submarine and has much better graphics than its predecessor, it is not as realistic as SH3, which was heavily modified by the community with a brilliant Grey Wolves add on which enhanced the game and made it more realistic. Some of you may own this game, so you will be familiar with it. As an ex submariner in my navy days, the game strongly appeals to me and I still play it occasionally. I am hoping that this game will turn out to be as popular as the SH games, because there is a lot of potential to make this the best ever game in the age of sail. It is certainly a vast improvement on the original game "Age of Sail" now that games are much more graphically improved. Computer games have come a long long way since the days of the Amstrad and Commodore 64 computers of old, that I remember cutting my teeth on. Who would have though back then, that we would be playing games like this half a century later. Anyway I am wandering way off topic here, but all I can say is, enjoy playing Naval Action the way you like to play it whether with friends on PvP or as a lone sailor on PvE, doing what you want to do, without any outside interference from other players, who get their kicks from just spoiling the game for those serious players, who like to play the game as it was intended to be played. There is nothing clever in spoiling other peoples enjoyment in a multiplayer game. I know we don't live in a perfect world, because there are always those who get their pleasure by upsetting other people. I just hope that the majority take this game more seriously, because those that don't, are just upsetting those that do. from what I have read on this thread. If you can't play by the rules in a gentlemanly fashion, then go and play a first person shooter game, don't spoil it for others who do like to play this game as it should be played, It is those that like to upset other players, who are driving people away from the game. All I can say to those who like upsetting others. Grow up and start acting like grown ups, instead of a group of misbehaved school kids. PvE has its good points for those who do want to play without any one else spoiling their game play. It suits me and I am quite happy to remain playing in PvE. Edited September 12, 2016 by Billy Budd 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strake Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Well said Balls of Steel, I think the majority of PvE players are of the older generation, where as those that prefer playing PvP are mostly the younger generation, which attracts groups of friends for multiplayer gaming. Multiplayer gaming seems to be the trend these days, but not everyone wants to get involved with Multiplayer. Every new game should always cater for both options. There is nothing wrong with solo players taking on the AI in any game, be it car racing games or any other type of game. One game that I have played for a long time now, is Silent Hunter 3, which has given me hours of pleasure just playing alone against the AI. This game still has a very strong following and even has more players than the later version of the game, Silent Hunter 5. Although SH5 is more interactive as far as being able to wander through the submarine and has much better graphics than its predecessor, it is not as realistic as SH3, which was heavily modified by the community with a brilliant Grey Wolves add on which enhanced the game and made it more realistic. Some of you may own this game, so you will be familiar with it. As an ex submariner in my navy days, the game strongly appeals to me and I still play it occasionally. I am hoping that this game will turn out to be as popular as the SH games, because there is a lot of potential to make this the best ever game in the age of sail. It is certainly a vast improvement on the original game "Age of Sail" now that games are much more graphically improved. Computer games have come a long long way since the days of the Amstrad and Commodore 64 computers of old, that I remember cutting my teeth on. Who would have though back then, that we would be playing games like this half a century later. Anyway I am wandering way off topic here, but all I can say is, enjoy playing Naval Action the way you like to play it whether with friends on PvP or as a lone sailor on PvE, doing what you want to do, without any outside interference from other players, who get their kicks from just spoiling the game for those serious players, who like to play the game as it was intended to be played. There is nothing clever in spoiling other peoples enjoyment in a multiplayer game. I know we don't live in a perfect world, because there are always those who get their pleasure by upsetting other people. I just hope that the majority take this game more seriously, because those that don't, are just upsetting those that do. from what I have read on this thread. If you can't play by the rules in a gentlemanly fashion, then go and play a first person shooter game, don't spoil it for others who do like to play this game as it should be played, It is those that like to upset other players, who are driving people away from the game. All I can say to those who like upsetting others. Grow up and start acting like grown ups, instead of a group of misbehaved school kids. PvE has its good points for those who do want to play without any one else spoiling their game play. It suits me and I am quite happy to remain playing in PvE. I think its great that NA strives to achieve a balance between PVE and PVP. For me, I like trading, exploring, smuggling and occasionally fighting. I find all these options available on PVP 1. And when I'm not actively fighting, I like knowing that someone might interecept and attack me. Keeps the game fresh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knite Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 PVP 1. And when I'm not actively fighting, I like knowing that someone might interecept and attack me. Keeps the game fresh. That was essentially the whole reason I quit playing EVE; I got ganked in one of my battleships while transferring stuff from one station to another, and decided I had enough. I love this game because of the PVE, because I can derp around and figure out what I'm doing without the worry of permanently losing something I've already invested a bunch of time into. Honestly, I wish this game were more like World of Warships in that there's no open world and you battle on teams of 12; if you sink you don't permanently lose your ship, and your crew never needs replenishing. The fighting in Naval Action (and night battles, so awesome) is the only reason I play this game, but I'm always wary of getting myself into a situation that might end up in the permanent loss of a favorite ship. In WoWs you can do something stupid, die, go back to port and take another ship out while you wait for the one you died in to get out of battle. PVE is the only thing that keeps me playing this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Budd Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) I think I have all the ships I am going to need, so my next goal is to reach the top rank with maximum crew entitlement. My other aim is to try and reach one billion gold in my bank. This will take a very along time, but I just want to see if it is at all possible! Another challenge is to visit every port on the map, which I am not far off achieving. All this would not be possible on the PvP servers. I really do love playing this game\because you can set yourself goals. I do need to catch an Eel, it's one fish I have never caught yet, maybe they are found in the Sargassa Sea area of the map, where their breeding grounds are. Time to set sail again! Edited September 12, 2016 by Billy Budd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moria15 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Well I moved from PvP to PvE a little while ago now, and I am seeing it suggested that the servers are merged but players provided with a PvE flag on that server. Ermmm no thanks.. that would negate the reasons I moved to the PvE server in the first place as it would put me straight back into having to listen to all the Toxic, Juvenile, Screaming, Epeening and Insulting that goes on in all the national chats. You want to understand why the PvP numbers have got so dismal?? look to the actions of your own server first before trying to blame the others. Look in the mirror and try to work out why people decide to leave where you are first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCK Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Why would you limit PVE in size or duration? It is not pointless nor a waste of time if you enjoy the game without having to deal with other players constantly attacking you. That may be something some people enjoy but others not so much. Regardless that play style is as much a part of the game as the other. Look, as you can see from this thread, I and many others will not play PvP. I generally dislike MMOs but purchase this one because there WAS a PvE option. If you get rid of the PvE server, then you will lose ALOT of players. Far more than you would gain on your PvP server. I can't stand working hard and enjoying a game only to get ganked by some Clan who claims ownership of a Port. I don't enjoy playing in a world with others whose only motivation is annoying as many others as possible. People playing PvE in no way affects PvP. If lack of players is the problem in PvP- as the post above states- maybe you should look to the behavior of many on those servers instead of trying to force those enjoying PvE to play PvP "or else".... They will simply quit it Edited September 12, 2016 by MikeCK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Ribault Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 ... People playing PvE in no way affects PvP. If lack of players is the problem in PvP- as the post above states- maybe you should look to the behavior of many on those servers instead of trying to force those enjoying PvE to play PvP "or else".... They will simply quit it +1. Well stated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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