SerrialKiller Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 This si ship of the line friesland there is another one from later build but cannot find that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joegrag Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Can we get some more informations please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerrialKiller Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 this is all i could find for the moment but i go to the libary tommroow or later this week so i might find soem more things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kao1808 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Beautiful. Would be nice to see those lantarns lit during nighttime sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerrialKiller Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 http://www.gahetna.nl/collectie/archief/ead/index/eadid/4.MST/node/c01%3A0.c02%3A0.c03%3A3.c04%3A24.c05%3A0./anchor/descgrp-context-bioghist/open/c01:0.c02:0.c03:3.c04:5.#c01:0.c02:0.c03:3.c04:5. Here us an link towards a website of the navy build ships and plans i cannot acces it do...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burocracy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 two years ago I went to the navy museum in amsterdam, I am sure they have plans there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 The Friesland was a second rank vessel with 80 guns built around 1663, part of the great fleet of the United Provinces of Holland, consisting of 1700 units. In 1672, sided by 77 vessels under De Ruyter’s command, on board of the admiral-ship Zeven Provincen, it took part in the battle of Solebay with the allied Anglo-French forces. The reconstruction has been carried out on the ground of a reliable Dutch documentation. Top Plan is Frieslan Bottom plan is HOLLANDISCHE-ZWEIDECKER VON 1660-1670 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Very similar, but much nicer. Dutch men-of-war of the mid to late 17th Century. DER HOLLANDISCHE-ZWEIDECKER VON 1660-1670 (THE DUTCH TWO DECKER OF 1660-1670) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 The Saint Louis, 1626 The Saint Louis, commissioned in 1626, was built in the Netherlands, together with some other vessels ordered by France, with the purpose of modernizing its dated fleet. The Saint Louis was armed with 60 cannons installed in two artillery decks. In the same fashion of other ships of her time, a large grating was installed to cover the entire extension of the waist deck, to provide protection against the elements of the rigging that could fall during combat. In the forecastle and quarterdeck the large gratings placed at deck level helped to dispel the smoke from the artillery decks. It is noticeable as well the absence of catheads in this early example of a ship of the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYN_Bloody-Bandy Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Lovely ship to be sure, but mixing vessels from the mid-late 1600's with those from late 1700's and early 1800's (when style was more defined) is anachronistic. A 17th century vessel would not have survived to see the day to fight Napoleonic era vessels, and would have been at a distinct disadvantage. Just my opinion of course, but I don't think "World of Sail" is where this game should go. Now, if enough vessels are created to cover these different eras (which may be the plan?) then certainly, we could have the persistent world evolve from these early ships (Galleons and Golden age of Piracy) through to the War of Independence and Napoleonic wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Dutch warship 1670 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Gouda 1665 Dutch vessel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_86 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 What about some Dutch 1700's - early 1800's vessels? I haven't found a lot of them on the net... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 What about some Dutch 1700's - early 1800's vessels? I haven't found a lot of them on the net... here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/49225014@N05/sets/72157632134773565/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Vrijheid 1651 Portrait of the ‘Vrijheid’, viewed from the port beam with, on the broadside, twelve guns on the gun deck and upper deck and three on the quarterdeck. The work is inscribed ‘…schip van capt balcke/…de gevecht van de ruijter/... kaneel’ (Captain [Auke] Balk’s ship in de Ruyter’s fight in the Channel). Balk was not in de Ruyter’s squadron in the action in the mouth of the Channel on 16-26 August 1652, but was second to him in the ‘Vrijheid’ in the three-day action beginning off Portland on 18-28 February 1653, where he was killed. The hull drawing has been roughly cut out, laid on a larger piece of paper and the lower masts then added. It is an accurate representation of the ship, but after many corrections, which led to the cutting out of the hull and pasting on the second sheet. A heavy wash has been put on but with more definition added by rather hesitant brown pen-work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryga Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Dayum so sexy. I much prefere this, earlier, age of sail and I think I'm not alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchurkjeBoefje Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 My recently arrived "Dutch Warships in the Age of Sail" would have dimensions for many of these 17th century ships. Though I agree that it would be better to find 18th century ships, fits in better with the timeline, and generally speaking a 80-gun ship from 1660 is well inferior to an 80-gunner from 1760. That's just the way those things work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerrialKiller Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 There is more then 1 vrijheid build mostly the names where used multyple times. There are ship plans in the archives but because they are to fragyle they cannot be opend if so you need to pay for them....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRuyter Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 There was a ship named Vrijheid at the Battle of Kamperduin in 1797. That one was launched in 1787 and sits squarely in the period represented by Naval Action. Looking at the order of battle for Kamperduin you have a ready list of Dutch warships of different sizes from the Napoleonic period. What we are getting in the game is an East Indiaman - Amsterdam (1748), based on the replica at the Scheepvaart Museum.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_ship_Vrijheidhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Camperdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigand Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 What we are getting in the game is an East Indiaman - Amsterdam (1748), based on the replica at the Scheepvaart Museum. We will get the East Indiaman Amsterdam, but if we can help it, it will be modelled on the original lines, not the lines of replica. ~Brigand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltajet2k Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) The Friesland was a second rank vessel with 80 guns built around 1663, part of the great fleet of the United Provinces of Holland, consisting of 1700 units. In 1672, sided by 77 vessels under De Ruyter’s command, on board of the admiral-ship Zeven Provincen, it took part in the battle of Solebay with the allied Anglo-French forces. The reconstruction has been carried out on the ground of a reliable Dutch documentation. Is this the same ship as the Hollandia, or is this of another build? I don't know much about it, only that is also had 80 guns and that it was a two-decker built around 1665. Edited February 20, 2015 by deltajet2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Dutch 80th gun And would this ship be suited for the dutch. Friesland was a second rank vessel with 80 guns built around 1663, part of the great fleet of the United Provinces of Holland, consisting of 1700 units. In 1672, sided by 77 vessels under De Ruyter’s command, on board of the admiral-ship “Zeven Provincen”, it took part in the battle of Solebay with the allied Anglo-French forces. The reconstruction has been carried out on the ground of a reliable Dutch documentation. (Not copy paste) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Front and sides:http://www.mamolimodel.com/images/mv24.jpg stern:http://i-am-modelist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Friesland_3.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeekoning Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I was searching through the Maritime Museum Rotterdam's digital collection and came across this ship. It has nice plans, but I could not find it's name (It's unlikely that Vierde Charter Gemonteerd is it's name). To see plans click Here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdr.ODon Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 It would be interesting to find a Dutch 1st rate from the Napoleonic era! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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