save playertime for usefull things AI trader travel Players stuff

[Thonys]

if the " AI player trader  " ship is traveling in OW and attackable by players and also can be used by the loki ....

i would say go for it ...

and ask to put it on the wish list

[Thonys]

38 minutes ago, Knuddel said:

Yes but it was A dramatic expensiv and B ur stuff is always delivered save. 

Result: No economic Warefare which some people are crying for. I dont like it so if there is no other possibility than yes but i dont like the Thourth that stuff gets teleported....

who said anything about teleporting.

teleporting is out of the question (let it be straight ......THAT..... will never be implemented. 

 

if it will be used  it must be only in OW real time (otherwise :   VETO....) 

if that will happen 4 things will happen too,  people do  > close game > go to steam>>>  remove program.(and a cheat/alt abuse/wrong benefit review on steam) i don't think they go for that trap.

 

but it can be a perk  option for the amount of fleets you want to send in ow ( 5 points perk ) @admin

instead of

instead of the fleets number (what should be free actual, and only accountable by the number of crew you can have to sail ) with your own ship.

Edited November 10, 2019 by Thonys

[Knuddel]

53 minutes ago, Thonys said:

who said anything about teleporting.

teleporting is out of the question (let it be straight ......THAT..... will never be implemented. 

 

if it will be used  it must be only in OW real time (otherwise :   VETO....) 

if that will happen 4 things will happen too,  people do  > close game > go to steam>>>  remove program.(and a cheat/alt abuse/wrong benefit review on steam) i don't think they go for that trap.

 

but it can be a perk  option for the amount of fleets you want to send in ow ( 5 points perk )

In the Past there where the option to send everyhing  around with teleporting. I am also not a fan of that but someone suggested that earlyer. Bevor it is like now i say yes even to teleporting, but better way in my opinion is what i have suggested. 

Perks: Why Perk this would just coast 400 dublones more: Take Perk send fleet reset perks for getting your combatabilitys back... or if you have to keep the perk until your stuff arives: Keep people away from fights... also not usefull. With other words those guys which have alts will use it more often than guys without alts. To have alt is big advantadge and doesnt need to be more suported like it is right now. So i am against a Perk. And fleet is just nessesary if you want to travel with traders... so why should it be free? But to discust this i think another sugestion is whats needed. Plz stay on this idear in this thread. Thx

[Knuddel]

1 hour ago, Intrepido said:

Who is crying for an economic warfare? 

Öhhm some guys take that as excuse for just going for traders in there Fir fir huntships and run away form everything what could be a funny fight. 

[Stars and Stripes]

1 hour ago, Knuddel said:

Öhhm some guys take that as excuse for just going for traders in there Fir fir huntships and run away form everything what could be a funny fight. 

Complete hog wash.

You say you let 2 Indiamans in fleet go. Then have a worthy fight with his warship.

Except he has no perks and no chance of winning but that's ok with you because you can beat your chest and say that was a real fight. Don't make me laugh.

Your clan is big enough. Build your traders, sail them and escort them.

Stop trying to change the game to suit your own afk lazy playstyle. 

[Knuddel]

31 minutes ago, Stars and Stripes said:

Your clan is big enough. Build your traders, sail them and escort them.

Stop trying to change the game to suit your own afk lazy playstyle. 

LoL

i am the only one which is asking for that you read the thread? 

About my clan do you know something i dont know? 

And the battle: He had 1 trinco in fleet plus he was sailing a Trinc. Against my endymion... i think thats even without Perks a Fair fight... 0

And about Lazy Playstyle: You see numbers in that game are going reverse? Not every one enjoy doing Boring stuff. And the question i asked you you just ignored. Change places you where in the Trader traveling for 30 mins booring around and than you dont reach ur destination and have 20 mins Booring fight... Waisted  nearly 1 hour for ? Nothing. Would it not be better to let Ai travel your stuff while you have some fun in the game?

Edited November 10, 2019 by Knuddel

[Stars and Stripes]

8 hours ago, Knuddel said:

When i catch a Player in a Trinco with 2 fleet indiamans for example i let the Indiamans go caurse its his abiliity to reporduce ships and give me more fun in (i am sorry but i need to call this still) real fights. 

Different to what you said?? No? 🤔

I'm done here.

 

[van Veen]

not a new idea, but still good.

+1

 

[Knuddel]

I didnt see your Suggestion van Veen. But its still on the Table. So you see tehre are a lot of guys whichwant that funktion. 

[Kubrat]

I am not sure if this suggestion in the current form is the answer that I would support, but it is definitely worth raising and discussing.

Part of the difficulty in coming to a clear understanding is because of the way the game is currently set up.  With magic ports its not clear to me what people want to be sending in these trade ships.  As a (returning-noobish) trader, the only thing I ship are mission goods and passengers, and I only do it to make money and dubloons.

So is this suggestion just meant to make it easier to make money and dubs?  Or is there something else people actually want to ship?

if we want to make trading meaningful IMO we need to do away with magic ports, and force the trading of actual goods between ports.  This allows the preying on traders that has an actual effect on a nation's ability to wage war. I do not prefer the term 'economic' warfare to describe this. I prefer the term 'indirect warfare', and from Sun Tzu to Montgomery-Lord Alamein, indirect warfare has been recognized as the very best way to beat your opponent. Especially if they are stronger than you.  Coming from a presently not-so-strong nation, I would welcome the ability to prey on my enemies in this way. Especially since they always sink me when we unfortunately meet in person ( Thank you for the lessons:) )

Vive la France-Libre! 

 

 

[Knuddel]

The Usual Idear was the stuff u need to craft ships: Like Iron, Coal, all the logs Hemp etc to get transported by AIs instead of waisting Playtime where people could do something more funny.

And HTose trader which ship that stuff should be sended an just travel the stuff like a Player would currendly do so be atackable at the open sea.

 

Edited December 12, 2019 by Knuddel

[Nooop]

On 11/10/2019 at 4:06 AM, Knuddel said:

Öhhm some guys take that as excuse for just going for traders in there Fir fir huntships and run away form everything what could be a funny fight. 

You mean like what the meatspace pirates did? Don't want to have any "realism" creeping in and mucking things up.

[Knuddel]

@Nooop

I am not shure that i understand what u want to tell me. 

[Angus MacDuff]

On 11/10/2019 at 5:33 AM, Stars and Stripes said:

You can already escort your trader by taking them in fleet. You say it's boring many find this exciting.

Now that trading has been fixed, it is very exciting to invest in an expensive cargo and make sure it gets to a port.  Nothing boring about trading.  

[Knuddel]

I am not talking about trading Good. But about Recaurces u need to craft ships.