vazco Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 The ultimate strategy is to make convoys. We used to make them in PFK, works perfectly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 The ultimate strategy is to make convoys. We used to make them in PFK, works perfectly. This. It is player content. It is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Monkey Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Guides that avoid PvP should be banned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Guides that avoid PvP should be banned Absolutely. For that reason this image should not exist.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCK Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Lol exactly. Although I picture PvP more like the national geographic show I saw last night where the owl sits in a tree. Whenever the little family of field mice come out, he swoops down and shreds the hell out of it....then just leaves it there until the next one...then does it again. Why? Well he's not hungry, he just does it to kill field mice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrdoomed Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Lol exactly. Although I picture PvP more like the national geographic show I saw last night where the owl sits in a tree. Whenever the little family of field mice come out, he swoops down and shreds the hell out of it....then just leaves it there until the next one...then does it again. Why? Well he's not hungry, he just does it to kill field mice Only humans ( and domestic cats) kill mice for no reason. Owls love to murder. .....love.....murder......owls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Texas Sir Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Not faster. Sails unfurl quicker. Stack with Lightweight ropes and blocks and you'll be underway sooner than not which is an edge on a tight spot. I was playing around with this on my new mortar brig i built so I can get moved and stopped faster and notice how much diffrent it was. I think I'm going to have to make a new tagger/trader hunter and use this instead to test something. I'm going to make a bet that a good Rattler/Rennon with this will be out and up to speed way faster and on ships than before. Maybe even with a Trinc. Cause the faster you get your sails up and going the faster you can fun them down in my book. That and as some one said if your going to battle sails and abck to avoid sail damage these might be usefull on a trader too for the same reason to get them sails up and going faster than others. That might be why my Trader Brig out runs most taggs cause I use Rigging on it instead of crew, build or planking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I was playing around with this on my new mortar brig i built so I can get moved and stopped faster and notice how much diffrent it was. I think I'm going to have to make a new tagger/trader hunter and use this instead to test something. I'm going to make a bet that a good Rattler/Rennon with this will be out and up to speed way faster and on ships than before. Maybe even with a Trinc. Cause the faster you get your sails up and going the faster you can fun them down in my book. That and as some one said if your going to battle sails and abck to avoid sail damage these might be usefull on a trader too for the same reason to get them sails up and going faster than others. That might be why my Trader Brig out runs most taggs cause I use Rigging on it instead of crew, build or planking. It does work - it just gives quicker reaction times - and combined with Fir and Speed makes for a good combination when chasing down ships. Come out in OW with the Mortar Brig - I'll see if I can catch it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddible Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 The motivation for this thread is that even pvpers need to transport goods occasionally. So answers like "play on PvE" or "avoiding pvp guides shouldn't exist" are just silly. Great advice all, thanks. It seems like there is some advantage to build industry out of harm's way and ship it in to dangerous areas when needed with convoys, friends, or when server pop is scarce 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 It is all about risk management and covering losses. Losing a haul now and then doesn't make any trader or crafter any poorer and that is an important detail to retain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strake Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Trading is a game of staying one step ahead of the raiders, but every now and then you get caught - makes the game more interesting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njquack Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 An interesting mod maybe adding insurance. The GEICO clan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenge Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Lloyd's of London has been insuring shipping since the Napoleonic days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Ribault Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Of course you can max out the speed of your ships with build types, upgrades, and loss of cannons, but once you get to that point you have to implement strategy to get your edge over the raiders. Lots of great advice above, but one of the things I do in addition is to plan my port exit timing for good wind position, and then use that boring-but-predictable wind whirligig to keep my best speed through the whole trade route; that usually means plan a counterclockwise circuit seeing the ports that maximize my profit. I have found several routes that fit that bill, and use them well. Staying out of the shipping lanes can acount for probably 75% of your success though. Here's another one: travel in the storms. Slows you down, but in heavy storms you can't even be seen until someone is right up on you. If you're slightly out of the shipping lane you'll never get popped. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Jones Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 In the heavy pop areas like Port Royal wait for an Air fleet going your way then sit next to it for a free escort. When trading smaller amounts use warships not traders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Ribault Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 In the heavy pop areas like Port Royal wait for an Air fleet going your way then sit next to it for a free escort. ... I was sailing once in a Traders Snow during the Dane takover of France on pvp2, and snuck openly past a Dane pvp fleet like this. Back in the days of humongous AI fleets. I was feeling quite smug till I got an in-game PM from one of them calling me cute. Felt like I had just escaped a prison gang-rape! But yeah, this saved me there and afterward 1 or 2 more times, good advice for a trader. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Jones Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Jean they were angry that you outsmarted and educated them in Naval initiative lol. I think of AI fleets as on Admiralty business. I advise all, especially news to use them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyKnox Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) Jean they were angry that you outsmarted and educated them in Naval initiative lol. I think of AI fleets as on Admiralty business. I advise all, especially news to use them. It was common practice in the Age of Sail for merchantmen to sail with friendly warships, if possible, when making a transit, and for warships to escort or protect important friendly shipping, if it was going their way. The friendly AI "Coast Guard" will be engaged on your side if a Player enemy targets you and the AI friendly warships are in the circle of engagement when targeted. Very useful to know. In fact, if memory serves, the U.S. Navy ... before entering World War II ... conducted "anti-submarine training" by sailing in anti-sub formation WITH BRITISH MERCHANTMEN while crossing the North Atlantic during the German blockade. The German Navy was not authorized to shoot at "neutral" US warships, but could not torpedo a Brit without the serious risk of hitting a U.S. Navy destroyer, which would then be authorized to return fire. Meanwhile, the British merchantmen and the USN destroyers got excellent practice in convoy and anti-sub warfare with real German subs following them, cursing (in German of course). ~ HK ~ Edited September 29, 2016 by HardyKnox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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