What kind of ship are you looking forward to sail

[Alex Connor]

Beautiful ship in either case, these 3 masted corvettes and ship-sloops will be a lot of fun.

[Hipparchia]

Or a corvette, in this case. 18 guns and 170 men is too small for a frigate, including in French usage at the time.

You might be right, I'm not even a specialist, but it seems it's a light Frigate everywhere i can read about it (in french). I guess we just use english words here even for french ships ?

Les frégates ont souvent représenté la pointe du progrès dans la marine à voile, tant en matière de gréement qu’en dessin des coques ; autour des années 1800, un bon marcheur pouvait filer dans les 12 nœuds, vitesse remarquable pour l’époque. Leur armement pouvait aller de 16 à 22 canons sur un pont (La Confiance de Surcouf, par exemple) jusqu’à 60 canons sur deux ponts (la Belle-Poule de 60 canons, qui ramena les cendres de Napoléon de Sainte-Hélène) qui apparurent lors du XIX^e siècle. Il allait généralement de 32 à 44 canons, de 8 à 24 livres (3,6 à 11 kg) plus quelques caronades.

 

+ http://www.patrimoine-histoire.fr/Maquettes/Confiance.htm

 

The english version of wikipedia says la Confiance is a brig, but a brig have only 2 mast, and la Confiance has 3.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Surcouf#Cruise_of_Confiance_and_capture_of_Kent

 

Anyway my point was I wanted fast and small ships no matter what we call them Brigs, frigates, frégates, corvettes !

 

Beautiful ship in either case, these 3 masted corvettes and ship-sloops will be a lot of fun.

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[Mirones]

the classification of objects allways depends on the nationa nd of the doctrine.

i would asoum the british call it a brig because of size, armament

the french on the other hand would call it a frigatte because of rigging and the role the ship was used in.

 

still nice little ship 

[maturin]

Brig refers to rig, not size or role. (Thankfully the British only screwed the pooch on nomenclature once, with the whole sloop-of-war deal.) It's an error in the article, but I didn't correct it because there is a citation posted. Hard to know whether the source contained that description or not.

 

I always thought that corvette was a French term, aimed at just this sort of vessel, so I'm surprised to see it called a frigate.

[Mirones]

now that you say id i kinda remembers me of the locust in PotBS wich is originally the Berlin Frigate of the Kurbrandenburgische Marine maybe even smaller than Confiance

[BungeeLemming]

well even tho your right about the Brig rigging and the naming for the ships.

A captured french typed Corvette would have been downgraded by the brits to be given a leutenant as commander (so called "master and commander").

Corvettes were fully rigged but armed just like brigs of war were.

Those ships were too small to be bothered for captains with patents.

 

Its my knowing that brits called them ships "brigs" for this very reason..

right me if im wrong ofc.

[Alex Connor]

Corvettes can be either ship or brig rigged, the French used this term for vessels ranging from 14 or so guns up to something as large as the 28 gun Unite (HMS Surprise).

 

Similarly the British had both Ship-Sloops and Brig-Sloops, although they divided such vessels into Sloops rated at less than 20 guns and Post Ships (always ship rigged but smaller than a frigate) with 20 guns or more.

 

The french and british classifications are not completely equivalent, this is why the Surprise was a corvette to the french and a frigate to the british. Similarly something like the HMS Cyane was a post ship to the british, a 3rd class frigate to the americans and would have been a corvette to the french. 

 

For the Frigate Berlin...

 

This is from an earlier era when "Frigate" was as much a style of building as a specific ship type (you could have "frigate-built" ships of the line as well as smaller vessels like this). 

[Mirones]

ah thanks for clarification alex.

[Feretier]

Corvettes can be either ship or brig rigged, the French used this term for vessels ranging from 14 or so guns up to something as large as the 28 gun Unite (HMS Surprise).

 

Similarly the British had both Ship-Sloops and Brig-Sloops, although they divided such vessels into Sloops rated at less than 20 guns and Post Ships (always ship rigged but smaller than a frigate) with 20 guns or more.

 

The french and british classifications are not completely equivalent, this is why the Surprise was a corvette to the french and a frigate to the british. Similarly something like the HMS Cyane was a post ship to the british, a 3rd class frigate to the americans and would have been a corvette to the french. 

 

For the Frigate Berlin...

 

This is from an earlier era when "Frigate" was as much a style of building as a specific ship type (you could have "frigate-built" ships of the line as well as smaller vessels like this).

 

You are absolutely right.

 

Before Napoléon I, a corvette class ship is defined by 3 mast and no more than 20 cannons in battery, it is supposed to be a fast ship used for hunting, mails and orders etc.. and it's British equivalent was considered as a sloop of war for the French naval Dictionary ( 1788-1792 )

During his reign the French naval Academy changed the definition and a corvette could go up to 28 cannons.

So the HMS Surprise (1805) is indeed a corvette, but from my humble opinion it is more to be considered as a light frigate. Everyone knows that Bonaparte was an idiot... right ?

 

[BrutishVulgarian]

I want a weatherly fore and aft cutter, it will be interesting to see how far into the wind a cutter will be able to point in NA.

[jasyaryar]

me to this very interesting article like personally vote for 2 deck, me i seem more agile with good firepower, although in practice they ought not to have many opportunities against a 3 deck with over 200 people on board. have in mind some kind of boat I'd like to see in the game, though I suppose that more than one of us we would like to navigate with a Tea-clipper ship very fast,very agile & very very prety ship

[Eyeless_Camper]

A Hemmama coastal frigate ofcourse. 

 

[Mirones]

just a question how do they store the paddels on these cant imagien them just pulling them in over cross

[HarryButpain]

in potbs terms,

mercy! 

[Battlestar Valkyrie]

Looking foward to a first rate or a frigate.

 

For myself, it's either destroying people in one obliterating broadside or use maneuverbility to outrun people. Even better, demast someone and "stern camp:"

[SerrialKiller]

I have sailed every ship except maybe on ore 2 inside POTBS ive played East India company awsome game ill be sailing almost every ship in this game as well dedicated player. :-P I just cant whayt to sail the open sea again raid convoys and kill players in pvp and mutch more.

[Dragonslayer4325]

I really want to sail the U.S.S Constitution it will be awesome when I get to sail it.Also,looking forward to sailing Galleons.

[BungeeLemming]

Galleons.. are pretty obsolete in the time this game is set.

Youd rather be sailing east indiamen if your looking for a huge cargohold and still be capable to denfend yourself

 

The Constitution is really fun to play with. But so are all the Frigates since they are the perfect mixture of agility and firepower

[Eyeless_Camper]

I sure hope they make put Kronan ingame. 

Kronan, also called Stora Kronan, was a Swedish warship that served as the flagship of the Swedish navy in the Baltic Sea in the 1670s. When built, she was one of the largest seagoing vessels in the world.

According to the official armament plan Kronan was to be equipped with 124–126 guns; 34–36 guns on each of the gundecks and an additional 18 shared between forecastle and sterncastle decks.

 

 

[EnchantedMoose]

Probably a terrible idea for fighting, but I really like the Dutch fluyts, for some reason. I don't know what kind of merchant system (if any) will be in the game, but that would be a fun ship to sail. [http://www.modelships.de/Fluyt-Zeehaen/gIMG_8502.jpg] [http://www.modelships.de/Derfflinger_I/ggDSC01244.jpg]

[Privateer]

Fluyts were very economical, but I wouldn't expect one to put up much of a fight.  It'd be interested to see just how capable merchants ships will be.

 

Battle of Pulo Aura, anyone?

[Captain_Wick]

I like having several different levels of ships so when I am going to put myself in a situation I have a choice of what to use. If I had to choose one ship category it would be a Heavy Frigate for all the obvious reasons.

[admin]

I am pretty much sure many testers are NOT looking to sail Victory any more))) 

[Chilly Willy]

LMAO

[Leviathan]

I've grown to enjoy the lumbering beast! However, I would like to see what the other ships can do.