LeBoiteux Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 12-guns (4 lbs) Corvette 20-gun (6 lbs) Corvette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeBoiteux Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Unnamed ca. 1760-1770, 20+ guns Thanks to Malachi for this great contribution Edited October 27, 2017 by LeBoiteux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) La Favorite Exploration Corvette 24 guns, 1829 http://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-national-marine/app/collection/record/9046 Her voyage of scientific exploration (1829-1832) The expedition passed the Cape of Good Hope, stopping at Pondicherry and Madras, and then exploring the coast of Cochinchina and Tonkin, stopping in the Philippines, Australia, Tasmania and New Zealand. The expedition was considered a great success, many hydrological observations were completed and natural history collections assembled. Captain: Cyrille Pierre Théodore Laplace (1793–1875) Naturalist: Joseph Fortuné Théodore Eydoux (1802–1841) Publication: C.P.T. Laplace, Journey around the world by the India and China seas, running on the corvette of the State the Favorite during the 1830s, 1831 and 1832 under the command of Mr Laplace captain of frégatte. Published by order of Mr. Vice-Admiral comte Rigny Minister of marine and colonies. (seven volumes including two atlas, Paris, 1833–1839). Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_and_American_voyages_of_scientific_exploration#1829.E2.80.931832:_La_Favorite French plan of La Favorite-class 24-gun Corvette "Corvette de 24 bouches a feu, type La Favorite" (1835) http://www.maritiemdigitaal.nl/index.cfm?event=search.getdetail&id=100175279 Sources : http://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-national-marine/app/collection/record/9046 Edited November 13, 2015 by LeBoiteux 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Unknown Barque longue 8 guns Late XVIIth-century pre-corvette http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/11756-rare-ship-collection-with-plans/?p=209220 Edited May 11, 2016 by LeBoiteux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) (moved) Edited December 1, 2015 by LeBoiteux 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeBoiteux Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Le Scott 1756, 18 (?) guns French privateer Corvette Captured by the British and renamed HMS Escorte in 1757. http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84060.html Armament : French service : ? (pierced for 9 guns and 5 oars per side) British service :14 × 6-pounder guns + 10 1/2-Pound Swivel Sources : http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7627 Edited November 16, 2015 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) La Sardoine 1757 French Corvette 14 French 4-Pounder + 6 swivel guns Captured in 1761 by the British 5th-Rate brig-sloop HMS Alarm (32 guns + 12 swivel-guns, 1758) and renamed HMS Sardoine. http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83948.html Armament : French service : 14 x French 4-Pounder + 6 swivel guns British service :14 × 4-pounder guns + 10 1/2-Pound Swivel Sources : http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=15602 http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83948.html http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2944 Edited October 22, 2017 by LeBoiteux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Some hulls of French privateer Corvettes (from 1745 to 1800, chronologically organized) I) Hulls with flat bottom (1745-1797) - L'Amazone, captured in 1745, 22 guns, model of HMS Myrmidon (1781) whose plan is :http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83621.htmlhttp://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=5490 - HMS Gibraltar (1755), 20 guns, on the model of French Le Tigre (?), date unknownhttp://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83765.html - See also HMS Bid(d)eford (1756) on the same model : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83720.html - Le Scott, 1756, 18 (?) guns, captured by the British and renamed HMS Escorte in 1757. http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84060.html Armament :French service : ? (pierced for 9 guns and 5 oars per side) British service :14 × 6-pounder guns + 10 1/2-Pound SwivelSources :http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7627 - Le Chevert (1759) renamed HMS Pomona, 18 guns :http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84013.htmlhttp://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=5861 - Le Duc d'Estissac, 20 guns, 1781http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=19508http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83715.html Le Brave, 1797, 22 guns, captured by the British in 1798 and renamed HMS Arab http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83586.html Source :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Arab_(1798)http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=3095Alternative plan : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83587.html II) V-shaped Hulls (1779-1800) (built for speed) - La Marquise de Seignelay, 1779, 20 guns (HMS Marquise de Seignelay)http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84327.htmlhttp://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=5280 - Le Duc de Chartres, 24 guns (1780) : http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=20418http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83703.html- Premier Consul (1788), renamed HMS Sophie, 18 gunshttp://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83803.htmlhttp://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=6781- La Vengeance (1793) renamed HMS Scouthttp://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83815.htmlhttp://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=22416- La nouvelle Eugènie (?) renamed HMS Eugenie or Eugenia, captured in 1797http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83901.htmlhttp://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=14118 (?) - Le Railleur (20 guns, 1797)http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83609.htmlhttp://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=16553- Le Mercure or La Trompeuse (18 guns (?), 1797) :http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84068.htmlhttp://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7222- L'invincible Général Bonaparte (18 guns, 1798) http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=18551http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83825.html - French Corvette renamed HMS Bonetta (18 guns, captured in 1798)http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84318.htmlhttp://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=3368- L'Audacieux (18 guns) , renamed HMS Voltigeur (1798) :http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83809.htmlhttp://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=16567 - Le Hardi, 18 guns, 1800 http://collections.rmg.co.uk/mediaLib/2437/media-2437110/large.jpg http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=6247 PS : About Corvettes in the French Navy, history and hull shapes, see in french, http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7645-les-corvettes/?p=144903 Edited April 9, 2019 by LeBoiteux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Those are some damn eye-catching body plans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) The Evolution of Corvettes in the French Navy : Specification and Armament (18th to 19th century) (Units of measure are french one) Translation of a post by French Surcouf with his authorization : http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7645-les-corvettes/?p=144903 All credit goes to him. A special Thanks to Brigand and Henry d'Esterre Darby ! On 15/11/2015 at 12:32 PM, Surcouf said: 17th century Pre-corvettes are barques longues. End of the Ancien Régime (until 1789) In 1740-1745, Blaise Ollivier, a French maritime engineer, described a corvette as having a length fo 50-80 ft (16,24 à 25,98m) and between 4 and 16 4-pdr guns. P. Morineau, another engineer, wrote in 1750 that a corvette is a 80 feet-length ship with 14 4-to-6-pdr guns. A regulation from 1765 divided them into two categories : 20 6-pdr gun corvettes and 12 4-pdr one.At that time, the armament of French frigates switched from 6-pdr to 8-pdr and French corvettes never had more than 20 guns. In 1767, plans of Corvettes show : 12 to 18 guns, length from 100 to 105 ft (32,48 à 34,10m). At this moment, Corvettes looks like Frigates. The only differences lie in the caliber of their guns (8 to 12-pdr for the frigates) and their hull length.Since the War of American Independence, 8-pdr frigates has no longer been in production. Thus, corvettes were then armed with 8-pdr guns from that time on. In 1786, Jean-Charles de Borda reflected on the French Navy and proposed the building of 60 corvettes with 24 8-pdr guns and 20 corvettes with 6-pdr 20 guns. French Revolution (1789-1803) Most of the corvettes were built following Borda’s planning. First Empire (1804-1814) Corvettes are built with 20 6-or-8-pdr guns. Since 1807, guns have been replaced by 24-pdr carronades. Restoration period (1814-1830) New kinds of corvettes were imagined on the proposal from Jean Tupinier during a Ministerial Commission, called « La Commission de Paris » in 1824. Then, three types coexist : 1) « La corvette de 32 à batterie couverte » Specifications : A gun battery covered by a flush spar-deck (making the quarterdeck and the forecastle connected), Armament : 20 30-pdr carronades (a new caliber) and 4 18-pdr short guns (lower deck), 8 30-pdr carronades (upper one). Length : 42,25 m ! She was an in-between warship : a more powerful armament than a corvette (and an upper deck in addition) but still lighter than a frigate. She’s the last evolution of the French corvettes, built in the middle of the XIX-th century. French poster Surcouf found the plans of one of the last « corvettes de 32 » built in Rochefort in 1876, a 100%-sail training ship : La Favorite. 2) « La Corvette de 24 » Specifications : An uncovered battery with 20 30-pdr carronades and 4 18-pdr short guns, Length : 38,64 m. Successor of the older classical type of corvettes. Example : La Créole (1823) Monograph by Boudriot : http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/61-monographie-de-la-creole-corvette-1823.html 3) « La Corvette-Aviso » Chosen in 1822 from a plan dating from the Revolution. 3-masted ship armed with 16 18-pdr carronades and 2 12-pdr short guns ; 24, 67 m long. Small ships designed for speed in order to carry orders or dispatches. Note that the « Corvette de 32 » was longer than the « Corvette-Aviso » by 18 m and had twice as many guns ! Edited October 27, 2017 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Drawings of Corvette Figureheads Proposals by P. Ozanne, French naval artist and engineer Published in 1798 in Ornements pour des proues de navires. It shows an overflowing imagination. These ornaments mix Animals, marine and mythological Creatures. His proposals have never been used... http://bibliotheque-numerique.inha.fr/collection/15988-ornements-pour-des-proues-de-navires/ Edited November 22, 2015 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Hull shapes of Corvettes in the French Navy (18th to 19th century) Translation of a post by French Surcouf with his authorization : http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7645-les-corvettes/?p=144903 All credit goes to him. (Forgive me any approximation in translation) On 15/11/2015 at 12:32 PM, Surcouf said: Over time, corvette hulls show various shapes depending on each naval engineer's preferences. But, at the beginning of the 18th century, they were quite similar. First half of the 18th century Bottoms are flat and tumblehome is substantial La Palme (1744-48) Drawing by P. Morineau ~ 1750 Anonymous from 1750 Second half of the 18th century Two types of hull coexist with quite opposite features : 1) Hulls with flat bottoms and substantial tumblehome (same as above) That type of hull gives stability regarding list and high cargo space. Le Naïade 2) V-shaped Hulls This shape reduces water drag for potential speed but increases the rolling and reduces cargo space. French Revolution (c. 1789) A difficult compromise is unsuccessfully sought between favored V-shape hulls and cargo ship. Those corvettes won't be liked and Brigs will be favored. Older type of hulls with flat bottons and even mixing of shapes will be found. Restoration (1814 - 1830) A new shape of hull is chosen, straight with round bottom. See Heavy "Corvette de 32" below. Hulls of "Corvettes de 24" are also straight but with a small V-shape at the bottom for speed and lightness. Corvettes-aviso will adopt a V-shape for speed. Corvette de 32 Corvette de 24 à poupe ronde Corvette de 24 à poupe carrée la CréoleV-shaped Hull for privateer corvettes (for speed) Corvette-aviso Terminology Tumblehome ("frégatage" in french) : the narrowing of a ship's hull with greater distance above the water-line. The hull is said to be "straight" (with "straight sides") when there's neither tumblehome nor flare. "V-Shaped" is a my personal interpretation of the shape. See : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumblehome https://reflectionsoutdoors.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/flared-or-straight-or-tumblehome-which-side-do-you-take-in-your-canoe/ Edited October 27, 2017 by LeBoiteux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 L'Amarante 1747 - 1760, 12 guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Badine French corvette 6 guns 1745 This is the cutest corvette you will ever see. Some info:Her design dated from 1744 is quite similar to a "barque longue" that is the ancestor of the french Corvettes from late-XVIIth,early XVIIIth centuries and were used by XVII-th Caribbean freebooters. She is very small for corvette,only 66 French feet! This plan designed by Clairin Deslauriers,working under the orders of Blaise Ollivier, is the only one that exists today in French Naval Museum at Paris. Characteristics: Lenght of gundeck: 66(!!!!!) Pied du Roi(French feet) or 21,4368 meters Lenght of keel: 60 Pied du Roi(French feet) or 19,488 meters Breadth: 17,6 Pied du Roi(French feet) or 5,684 meters Depth in hold: 7,4 Pied du Roi(French feet) or 2,3819 meters Displacement:124 Tons Burthen:70 Tons Armament: 6xFrench 3 pdr Crew:84(80 sailors,4 officers) Thanks Surcouf for the info,and LeBoiteux for the help! Edited December 22, 2015 by Sella22 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 La Créole 1829, 24 guns Plan and monograph : http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/61-monographie-de-la-creole-corvette-1823.html?search_query=corvette&results=6 Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_corvette_Créole_(1829) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 La Diligente French corvette 20 guns 1801 Ordered: 5 December 1800 Builder: Brest Laid down: 1800 Launched: 6 November 1801 Struck: 12 October 1854 Dimensions: Length: 33.8 m (111 ft) Beam: 8.4 m (28 ft) Draught: 4.7 m (15 ft) Armament: Originally: 20 x 6-pounder guns In 1808: 18 x 24-pounder carronades + 2 x 12-pounder long guns Refit 1821: 18 x 18-pounder carronades + 2 x 8-pounder long guns Armour: Timber Sources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_corvette_Diligente_(1801) Dimensions:104 x 26 x 14,1 (pieds du Roi)Displacement : 472 txNo quarterdeck / forecastlePlan by P. Ozanne in Brest. Plan of her sistership La Perle 1829: Info: http://dossiersmarine.free.fr/fs_c_C4.html Sailing characteristics :She had a very good reputation. She was considered as "the fastest ship of her time", "the best model to follow" (J. Tupinier).Her plan from 1801 were to be reused between 1824-1826 to built 8 corvettes-aviso (cf. below). "Elle gouvernait bien mais virait lentement, portait bien la voile, les mouvements de tangage et roulis étaient doux, la marche au plus près très bonne, l'allure largue était la plus avantageuse atteignant par gros temps 12 à 13 noeuds, la marche à l'allure vent arrière ordinaire" (Boudriot). Sisterships :Built between 1824-1826 : L'Isis, La Sylphide, La Bayonnaise, La Cornélie, La Cerés, L'Eglé, l'Orythe, La Perle. Sources :Boudriot, La Créole, p. 33, 38, 42-43, 49. L'Eglé (1826): 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surcouf Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 La Diligente, painting by F.-G. Roux : http://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-national-marine/app/collection/record/9049 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazza (Jon Von Hellsing) Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Many very great ideas, it would be cool to see more french corvettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) L'Heureuse 22-gun Corvette 1799 http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83572.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83574.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83573.html Info: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=21988 Edited April 3, 2016 by Sella22 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwnciboo Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Good god, the French knew how to make handsome ships. If we only got a handful of French Corvettes, i would never sail in a niagara again. As 6th rates of the period they are stunning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surcouf Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 La Subtile Launched in 1777 Struck of lists in 1791 Built by R.-A Haran Place of building: Rochefort Data: Length x breadth x depht in hold 110' x 28' 2" x 14' 6" 35,73m x 9,15m x 4,71m Artillery of origin: 20-gun of the 6-pdr Plan: http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/3297-références-diverses-et-variées/?p=153681 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara_1812 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Nice Post! Corvettes are my favorite ship types, My favorite is SMS Amazone, A Prussian ship modeled on the plans of the French Corvette Diligente 1801. Amazone was launched 1843, making her a ship that would probably not be in this game, but Diligente definitely could be in this game! Amazone Diligente Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara_1812 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) L'AURORE 18 guns 1697 Edited May 26, 2016 by Niagara_1812 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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