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ca. 1760-1770, 20+ guns

 

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Thanks to Malachi for this great contribution

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La Favorite

Exploration Corvette

24 guns, 1829

 

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http://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-national-marine/app/collection/record/9046

 

 

Her voyage of scientific exploration (1829-1832)

 

The expedition passed the Cape of Good Hope, stopping at Pondicherry and Madras, and then exploring the coast of Cochinchina and Tonkin, stopping in the PhilippinesAustraliaTasmania and New Zealand. The expedition was considered a great success, many hydrological observations were completed and natural history collections assembled.

 

CaptainCyrille Pierre Théodore Laplace (1793–1875)

NaturalistJoseph Fortuné Théodore Eydoux (1802–1841)

Publication: C.P.T. Laplace, Journey around the world by the India and China seas, running on the corvette of the State the Favorite during the 1830s, 1831 and 1832 under the command of Mr Laplace captain of frégatte. Published by order of Mr. Vice-Admiral comte Rigny Minister of marine and colonies. (seven volumes including two atlas, Paris, 1833–1839).

 

Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_and_American_voyages_of_scientific_exploration#1829.E2.80.931832:_La_Favorite

 

 

French plan of La Favorite-class 24-gun Corvette

 

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 "Corvette de 24 bouches a feu, type La Favorite" (1835)

http://www.maritiemdigitaal.nl/index.cfm?event=search.getdetail&id=100175279

 

Sources :

http://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-national-marine/app/collection/record/9046

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Le Scott

1756, 18 (?) guns

French privateer Corvette

 

Captured by the British and renamed HMS Escorte in 1757.

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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84060.html

Armament :

French service : ? (pierced for 9 guns and 5 oars per side) 

British service :14 × 6-pounder guns + 10 1/2-Pound Swivel

 

Sources :

http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7627

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La Sardoine

1757

French Corvette

14 French 4-Pounder + 6 swivel guns 

 

Captured in 1761 by the British 5th-Rate brig-sloop HMS Alarm (32 guns + 12 swivel-guns, 1758) and renamed HMS Sardoine.

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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83948.html

 

Armament :

French service : 14 x French 4-Pounder + 6 swivel guns

British service :14 × 4-pounder guns + 10 1/2-Pound Swivel

 

Sources :

http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=15602

http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83948.html

http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2944

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Some hulls of French privateer Corvettes

(from 1745 to 1800, chronologically organized)

 

I) Hulls with flat bottom (1745-1797)

 
- L'Amazone, captured in 1745, 22 guns, model  of HMS Myrmidon (1781) whose plan is :
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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83621.html
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=5490
 
- HMS Gibraltar (1755), 20 guns, on the model of French Le Tigre (?), date unknown
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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83765.html
 
- See also HMS Bid(d)eford (1756) on the same model : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83720.html
 
- Le Scott, 1756, 18 (?) guns, captured by the British and renamed HMS Escorte in 1757.

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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84060.html

Armament :
French service : ? (pierced for 9 guns and 5 oars per side) 
British service :14 × 6-pounder guns + 10 1/2-Pound Swivel
Sources :
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7627
 
- Le Chevert (1759) renamed HMS Pomona, 18 guns :
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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84013.html
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=5861

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- Le Duc d'Estissac, 20 guns, 1781
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http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=19508
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83715.html
 
Le Brave, 1797, 22 guns, captured by the British in 1798 and renamed HMS Arab

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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83586.html

Source :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Arab_(1798)
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=3095
Alternative plan : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83587.html
 

II) V-shaped Hulls (1779-1800) 

(built for speed)

 
- La Marquise de Seignelay, 1779, 20 guns (HMS Marquise de Seignelay)
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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84327.html
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=5280
 
- Le Duc de Chartres, 24 guns (1780) :
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 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=20418
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83703.html

- Premier Consul (1788), renamed HMS Sophie, 18 guns
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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83803.html
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=6781

- La Vengeance (1793) renamed HMS Scout
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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83815.html
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=22416

- La nouvelle Eugènie (?) renamed HMS Eugenie or Eugenia, captured in 1797
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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83901.html
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=14118  (?)

 - Le Railleur (20 guns, 1797)
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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83609.html
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=16553

- Le Mercure or La Trompeuse (18 guns (?), 1797) :
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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84068.html
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7222

- L'invincible Général Bonaparte (18 guns, 1798) 
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http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=18551
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83825.html
 
 - French Corvette renamed HMS Bonetta (18 guns, captured in 1798)
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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84318.html
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=3368

- L'Audacieux (18 guns) , renamed HMS Voltigeur (1798) :
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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83809.html
http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=16567
 
- Le Hardi, 18 guns, 1800
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http://collections.rmg.co.uk/mediaLib/2437/media-2437110/large.jpg

http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=6247

 

PS : About Corvettes in the French Navy, history and hull shapes, see in french, http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7645-les-corvettes/?p=144903

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The Evolution of Corvettes in the French Navy :

Specification and Armament 

 

(18th to 19th century)

 

(Units of measure are french one)

 

 

Translation of a post by French Surcouf with his authorization :

 

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7645-les-corvettes/?p=144903

 

All credit goes to him.

 

 

A special Thanks to Brigand and Henry d'Esterre Darby !

 

 

On 15/11/2015 at 12:32 PM, Surcouf said:

 

17th century

 

Pre-corvettes are barques longues.

End of the Ancien Régime (until 1789)

 

In 1740-1745, Blaise Ollivier, a French maritime engineer, described a corvette as having a length fo 50-80 ft (16,24 à 25,98m) and between 4 and 16 4-pdr guns.

 

P. Morineau, another engineer, wrote in 1750 that a corvette is a 80 feet-length ship with 14 4-to-6-pdr guns. 

A regulation from 1765 divided them into two categories : 20 6-pdr gun corvettes and 12 4-pdr one.

At that time, the armament of French frigates switched from 6-pdr to 8-pdr and French corvettes never had more than 20 guns.
 

In 1767, plans of Corvettes show :

  • 12 to 18 guns,
  • length from 100 to 105 ft (32,48 à 34,10m).

At this moment, Corvettes looks like Frigates. The only differences lie in the caliber of their guns (8 to 12-pdr for the frigates) and their hull length.Since the War of American Independence, 8-pdr frigates has no longer been in production.


Thus, corvettes were then armed with 8-pdr guns from that time on.
 

In 1786, Jean-Charles de Borda reflected on the French Navy and proposed the building of 60 corvettes with 24 8-pdr guns and 20 corvettes with 6-pdr 20 guns. 
 

French Revolution (1789-1803)

Most of the corvettes were built following Borda’s planning.

First Empire (1804-1814)

Corvettes are built with 20 6-or-8-pdr guns. Since 1807, guns have been replaced by 24-pdr carronades.

Restoration period (1814-1830)

New kinds of corvettes were imagined on the proposal from Jean Tupinier during a Ministerial Commission, called « La Commission de Paris » in 1824. 

Then, three types coexist :

1) « La corvette de 32 à batterie couverte »

Specifications : 

  • A gun battery covered by a flush spar-deck (making the quarterdeck and the forecastle connected),
  • Armament : 
  • 20 30-pdr carronades (a new caliber) and 4 18-pdr short guns (lower deck),
  • 8 30-pdr carronades (upper one). 
  • Length : 42,25 m !

 

She was an in-between warship : a more powerful armament than a corvette (and an upper deck in addition) but still lighter than a frigate. She’s the last evolution of the French corvettes, built in the middle of the XIX-th century.

 

French poster Surcouf found the plans of one of the last « corvettes de 32 » built in Rochefort in 1876, a 100%-sail training ship : La Favorite.

2) « La Corvette de 24 »

Specifications :

  • An uncovered battery with 20 30-pdr carronades and 4 18-pdr short guns,
  • Length : 38,64 m.

Successor of the older classical type of corvettes.

Example : La Créole (1823)

Monograph by Boudriot : http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/61-monographie-de-la-creole-corvette-1823.html

3) « La Corvette-Aviso »

Chosen in 1822 from a plan dating from the Revolution.

3-masted ship armed with 16 18-pdr carronades and 2 12-pdr short guns ; 24, 67 m long.

Small ships designed for speed in order to carry orders or dispatches. 

Note that the « Corvette de 32 » was longer than the « Corvette-Aviso » by 18 m and had twice as many guns !

 

 

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Drawings of Corvette Figureheads

Proposals by P. Ozanne,

French naval artist and engineer

 

 

Published in 1798 in Ornements pour des proues de navires.

It shows an overflowing imagination. These ornaments mix Animals, marine and mythological Creatures.

His proposals have never been used...

 

 

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http://bibliotheque-numerique.inha.fr/collection/15988-ornements-pour-des-proues-de-navires/

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Hull shapes of Corvettes in the French Navy

(18th to 19th century)

 

Translation of a post by French Surcouf with his authorization :

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/7645-les-corvettes/?p=144903

All credit goes to him.

 

(Forgive me any approximation in translation)

 

On 15/11/2015 at 12:32 PM, Surcouf said:

Over time, corvette hulls show various shapes depending on each naval engineer's preferences. But, at the beginning of the 18th century, they were quite similar. 
 
 

First half of the 18th century

Bottoms are flat and tumblehome is substantial

 

La Palme (1744-48)

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Drawing by P. Morineau ~ 1750

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Anonymous from 1750

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Second half of the 18th century

 

Two types of hull coexist with quite opposite features :

 

1) Hulls with flat bottoms and substantial tumblehome (same as above) 

That type of hull gives stability regarding list and high cargo space.

 

Le Naïade

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2) V-shaped Hulls

This shape reduces water drag for potential speed but increases the rolling and reduces cargo space. 

 

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French Revolution (c. 1789)

 

A difficult compromise is unsuccessfully sought between favored V-shape hulls and cargo ship.

Those corvettes won't be liked and Brigs will be favored.

 

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Older type of hulls with flat bottons and even mixing of shapes will be found.

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Restoration (1814 - 1830)

 

A new shape of hull is chosen, straight with round bottom. See Heavy "Corvette de 32" below.

Hulls of "Corvettes de 24" are also straight but with a small V-shape at the bottom for speed and lightness.

Corvettes-aviso will adopt a V-shape for speed.

 

Corvette de 32

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Corvette de 24 à poupe ronde

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Corvette de 24 à poupe carrée la Créole
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V-shaped Hull for privateer corvettes

(for speed)

 

Corvette-aviso

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Terminology

 

Tumblehome ("frégatage" in french) : the narrowing of a ship's hull with greater distance above the water-line.

The hull is said to be "straight" (with "straight sides") when there's neither tumblehome nor flare.

"V-Shaped" is a my personal interpretation of the shape.

 

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See : 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumblehome

https://reflectionsoutdoors.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/flared-or-straight-or-tumblehome-which-side-do-you-take-in-your-canoe/

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Badine

French corvette

6 guns

1745

 

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This is the cutest corvette you will ever see.

 

Some info:Her design dated from 1744 is quite similar to a "barque longue" that is the ancestor of the french Corvettes from late-XVIIth,early XVIIIth centuries and were used by XVII-th Caribbean freebooters.

She is very small for corvette,only 66 French feet!

This plan designed by Clairin Deslauriers,working under the orders of Blaise Ollivier, is the only one that exists today in French Naval Museum at Paris.

 

Characteristics:

 

Lenght of gundeck: 66(!!!!!) Pied du Roi(French feet) or 21,4368 meters

Lenght of keel: 60  Pied du Roi(French feet) or 19,488 meters

Breadth: 17,6 Pied du Roi(French feet) or 5,684 meters

Depth in hold: 7,4 Pied du Roi(French feet) or 2,3819 meters

Displacement:124  Tons

Burthen:70 Tons

 

Armament: 6xFrench 3 pdr

 

Crew:84(80 sailors,4 officers)

 

 

Thanks Surcouf for the info,and LeBoiteux for the help!

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La Diligente

French corvette

20 guns

1801

 

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Ordered: 5 December 1800
Builder: Brest
Laid down: 1800
Launched: 6 November 1801
Struck: 12 October 1854

 

Dimensions:

 

Length: 33.8 m (111 ft)

Beam: 8.4 m (28 ft)
Draught: 4.7 m (15 ft)
 
Armament:
Originally: 20 x 6-pounder guns
In 1808: 18 x 24-pounder carronades + 2 x 12-pounder long guns
Refit 1821: 18 x 18-pounder carronades + 2 x 8-pounder long guns
Armour: Timber
 

Sources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_corvette_Diligente_(1801)

 

Dimensions:104  x 26 x 14,1 (pieds du Roi)
Displacement : 472 tx
No quarterdeck / forecastle
Plan by P. Ozanne in Brest.

 

Plan of her sistership La Perle 1829:

 

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Info: http://dossiersmarine.free.fr/fs_c_C4.html

 

Sailing characteristics :
She had a very good reputation. She was considered as "the fastest ship of her time", "the best model to follow" (J. Tupinier).
Her plan from 1801 were to be reused between 1824-1826 to built 8 corvettes-aviso (cf. below).
 
"Elle gouvernait bien mais virait lentement, portait bien la voile, les mouvements de tangage et roulis étaient doux, la marche au plus près très bonne, l'allure largue était la plus avantageuse atteignant par gros temps 12 à 13 noeuds, la marche à l'allure vent arrière ordinaire" (Boudriot). 
 
Sisterships :
Built between 1824-1826 : L'Isis, La Sylphide, La Bayonnaise, La Cornélie, La Cerés, L'Eglé, l'Orythe, La Perle.
 
Sources :
Boudriot, La Créole, p. 33, 38, 42-43, 49.

 

 

L'Eglé (1826):

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Good god, the French knew how to make handsome ships. If we only got a handful of French Corvettes, i would never sail in a niagara again. As 6th rates of the period they are stunning.

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La Subtile

Launched in 1777

Struck of lists in 1791

Built by R.-A Haran

Place of building: Rochefort

Data:

Length x breadth x depht in hold

110' x 28' 2" x 14' 6"

35,73m x 9,15m x 4,71m

Artillery of origin:

20-gun of the 6-pdr

Plan:

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/3297-références-diverses-et-variées/?p=153681

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Nice Post! Corvettes are my favorite ship types, My favorite is SMS Amazone, A Prussian ship modeled on the plans of the French Corvette Diligente 1801.

Amazone was launched 1843, making her a ship that would probably not be in this game, but Diligente definitely could be in this game!

 300px-Amazone2.jpg   Amazone                                300px-Diligente_img_3187.jpg Diligente

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