Sir. Cunningham Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 The guns on the lower gundecks of the Bellona stick out a bit too much in comparison to those on the upper gundecks, either that or vice versa. The issue can be solved by either moving the lower 32 pdrs back a bit and moving the 24 pdrs forward a bit, that way it would look right. Now this is an issue that has been present for some time and I haven't mentioned it until now because I honestly though it would be solved within the first couple of weeks, but since it hasn't been solved yet I thought it about time it be mentioned because it does look rather silly: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry d'Esterre Darby Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Do they have to line up exactly? Might that not be a problem with the different gun sizes - the larger bore cannon was longer wasn't it? I'm not sure, just asking the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Do they have to line up exactly? Might that not be a problem with the different gun sizes - the larger bore cannon was longer wasn't it? I'm not sure, just asking the question. They won't line up exactly, both due to gun length (eventough a 24 & 32 pdr are nearly the same length) and the fact that the bottom hull is wider, BUT they wont be as offset as they are now. If you look at the ship you will see that the bottom guns are placed closer to the gun ports, the carriage being almost up against the hull, whilst the upper guns are placed further back. This is what is causing the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Plz fix this Game Labs, eye candy is important, esp. if it can be achieved so very easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munro Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 If it bothers you that much you could always load carronades or short barrels into the lower deck until it gets fixed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 If it bothers you that much you could always load carronades or short barrels into the lower deck until it gets fixed... Err...that's not really a solution now is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 The ship's wearing a comically oversized rig borrowed from HMS Victory and this is what people notice? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 The ship's wearing a comically oversized rig borrowed from HMS Victory and this is what people notice? Hehe I noticed that one too a long time ago (that and the lack of top gallants etc) and also complained about it alongside you, but one thing at a time ^^ At least this issue is very easily corrected by simply moving the guns abit back & forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharden Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Err...that's not really a solution now is it? Well it IS kind of a solution, to the cosmetic problem. If it is a viable solution gameplay wise, thats on a different page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Well it IS kind of a solution, to the cosmetic problem. If it is a viable solution gameplay wise, thats on a different page Or they could just move the guns back & forward a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 *shameless bump* Really has proven to be a real eyesore for me, just looks so wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 In contrast this is what I'm suggesting: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 I really hope this gets addressed because ships are looking pretty goofy with these long barrels sticking out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 New ship or bellona gun and rig.. hmmmmmm interesting choice ps This clearly belongs to the shipyard topic. Not gameplay suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Moved the thread to shipyard sub forum. Guess I didn't really know where to put it back when I started it, and probably overlooked the word "gameplay" under the thread group title and just saw it as a suggestion forum for pretty much all suggestions New ship or bellona gun and rig.. hmmmmmm interesting choice Not sure I understand? You mean it's a choice between a new ship or altering the gun & rig on the Bellona? Anyway I just wish the guns weren't sticking out as much as they do on some of the ships ingame atm, mostly because that wasn't the case on the real ships But I also of course understand that this is a minor issue atm, and that there are more urgent things to take care of first. I'm just bringing it out there in the hope that it will be addressed eventually at some point as the visuals are extremely important to this game IMO This is perfect in terms of how the cannons are modelled/situated IMHO: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) Not sure I understand? You mean it's a choice between a new ship or altering the gun & rig on the Bellona? First, thanks for having noticed that issue. That said, I guess that Admin's comment was a bit ironic : what do you prefer, that devs spend immediate time and ressources on adding a new ship in NA (quite an important gameplay issue) or on modifying the Bellona (a very minor cosmetic issue as you wrote it) ? Cosmetic issues can wait a while, can't they ? However, I guess now devs know your point. Edited June 4, 2015 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Devs need more hands on deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Devs need more hands on deck They should launch a call for 3d models or, better yet, a contest with small rewards such as free future content or name in the credits. Skilled 3d students and semi-pro may be interested. Kind of demo reel. It'd look good on a 3d modeler's CV/resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Perhaps it's the hull's lack of thickness at the bottom that makes the lower guns stick out too much on the Bellona, at least I seem to note a much thicker hull on above 3D model the further down the hull you look. Of course it's nothing compared to on the Trinc with longs on: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Armstrong Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The 18pdrs on the real trincomalee stick out about that much http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/25809923.jpg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 The 18pdrs on the real trincomalee stick out about that much http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/25809923.jpg I'd say they stick out less, about as much as the mediums ingame, but maybe that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 The Trinc with ingame medium guns (which looks pretty spot on to me): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Yeah the longs are definitely too long IMO, whilst the mediums are pretty much spot on compared to the real ship: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Anyway here's two pictures of the HMS Foudroyant, one of Nelsons famous 3rd rates and a ship very similar to the Bellona. Now note the guns, esp. on the main gun deck, they really don't stick out very far, and the guns on all decks stick out about the same: Again just like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir. Cunningham Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 The HMS Victory looks near perfect ingame with mediums btw, pretty much just like the real thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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