LeBoiteux Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Small ship Plan Challenges At the special request of @Malachi There is no official gap inbetween the small ships and no expected new ship in the near futur. Nonethless, some could be added some day... So here are three challenges for NA plan-digging fans. Expected post format : Ships name, date, ship characteristics, plans Challenge #1 or 2 + gap(s) to fil (1, 2, 3 and/or 4) historical armament and suggestion(s) for ingame armament 1) Fill-in the gap challenge Post your favorite plans that might fill in the gaps below. Gaps are shown in terms of broadside weight for guns. Table 1 shows the gaps ; Table 2, some possible armament combinaisons for each 'gap'. Any correction are welcome. Abbreviations GD : gun deck ; WD : weather deck ; fc : forecastle ; bw : broadside weight Calculation of a broadside weight : bw = (number of guns on one side of the gun deck x caliber) + (number of guns on one side of the WD/fc x caliber). Ex : broadside weight of a frigate carrying 20 x 9-pdr + 14 x 6-pdr = 10 x 9 + 7 x 6 = 132 pdr 2) The Ship Sloop Challenge Post your favorite ship plans meeting the following specs : ship sloop (corvette), that is a three-masted ship armament on gun deck : 12 x 4-pdr, 12 x 6-pdr, 14 x 6-pdr, 16 x 6-pdr, 18 x 6-pdr, 20 x 6-pdr or 22 x 6-pdr. No armed QD/fc. NB : Those armament combinaisons have already been implemented in game with the Navy Brig, the Mercury and the Snow. 3) The challenge 'I know I'm too small but I'm so cute' Ships with a broadside weight < 24 (lynx) but nice : small traders with a few guns... 4) The challengers Plans of brigs, snow or fore-and-aft rigged ships that could challenge those currently implemented, ie carrying the same armament :8 x 6-pdr, 12 x 4-pdr, 12 x 6-pdr, 16 x 6-pdr, 18 x 6-pdr, 20 x 6-pdr or 22 x 6-pdr. Have fun Edited October 21, 2017 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Washington Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Small collection. WIP. Edited October 17, 2017 by George Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, George Washington said: Small collection. WIP. A 3rd Rate and a frigate to fill the gaps between Cutter and Pickle? Plus we need to know what cannons they carried Edited October 17, 2017 by Sella22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Washington Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Sella22 said: A 3rd Rate and a frigate to fill the gaps between Cutter and Pickle? Plus we need to know what cannons they carried Fixed, will try to find more info as I add plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Washington Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Neptunus LV II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sella Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I've got just right one for your 3rd category 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Washington Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Blau Hagern 18 Guns Edited October 17, 2017 by George Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Quote Small collection. WIP. To add some details to Washington´s post: the second picture shows a british 1719 Establishment 6th rate (at least I think it is :P), the last one is Blaae Heyren, a danish 18-gun corvette built in 1734. The first, third and fourth were just proposals and haven´t been built as far as I know. Edited October 17, 2017 by Malachi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Washington Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) HMS Kingfisher 18 gun sloop Edited October 17, 2017 by George Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Washington Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 14 Gun Brig Cherokee Armed trader , no info Edited October 17, 2017 by George Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Washington Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) HMS Vincejo Armament: Upper Deck sixteen 18-pound carronades, Quarterdeck two 6-pound long guns Launched Length Keel Breadth Hold Tonnage Crew 1798? 91' 5 1/2" 82' 25' 2" 12' 8" 276 1/2 100 Edited October 17, 2017 by George Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Washington Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) HMS Harpy 18 Guns 1796 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Harpy_(1796) 16 × 32-pounder carronades 2 × 6-pounder chase guns Edited October 17, 2017 by George Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BungeeLemming Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 May I ask where you got those kingfisher plans from? Are they even in higher res than presented here? My first contribution in here is the danish Wilmanden: armed with 18 x 6pdrs she has a broadside weight of 54 pound (danish) Her most interesting feat is beein a fully rigged ship. (if interested) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Washington Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) HMS Shark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Shark_(1776) 1799:14 × 6-pounder and 9-pounder Edited October 17, 2017 by George Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Washington Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) HMS Ferret 1711 Edited October 17, 2017 by George Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, George Washington said: HMS Shark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Shark_(1776) 1799:14 × 6-pounder and 9-pounder That´s the Shark built in 1732, not 1776. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Washington Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Malachi said: That´s the Shark built in 1732, not 1776. You guys figure out, I am just dumping resources here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, George Washington said: You guys figure out, I am just dumping resources here. So we´re playing 'Guess the ship' now? Whatever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 26 minutes ago, George Washington said: You guys figure out, I am just dumping resources here. Somewhat takes the elegance of these topics to be fair. @LeBoiteuxMust admit i have thouroughly enjoyed these topics and do intend on partaking in this one as well tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 50 minutes ago, SteelSandwich said: @LeBoiteuxMust admit i have thouroughly enjoyed these topics and do intend on partaking in this one as well tonight. Happy to know that. That's the aim of the game (with sharing out new plans and maybe filling in NA gaps someday) Edited October 17, 2017 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Shared here mainly as it is a piece of History. Thanks to our Surcouf. Our in-game cutter is beautiful btw. Le Renard 1812 French Privateer Cutter armed and owned by Robert @Surcouf Historical armament : 10 x 8-pdr (carronades) + 4 x 4-pdr (48 pdr) Suggestion for in-game armament (gaps 1-2) : 14 x 6-pdr (42 pdr) 14 x 4-pdr (28 pdr) 10 x 6-pdr + 4 x 4-pdr (38 pdr) Modern plans of the present replica Dimensions : Longueur : 30 m Longueur de coque : 19 m Maître-bau : 6 m Tirant d'eau : 2,8 m Deplacement : 70 t Crew : 3-30 (historical crew : 48) Sources : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_cutter_Renard_(1812) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Surcouf Edited October 17, 2017 by LeBoiteux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Pijl (Translated: Arrow) 1785 Dutch Brig Historical armament : 12 x 6-pdr = 72 | 36 BW 16 x 6-pdr = 96 | 48 BW Suggestion for in-game armament : 14 x 6-pdr = 84 | 42 BW Given that she was modified several times, i think an armament of 14 (so under max capacity) would not be unrealistic. Dimensions : 80' x 25' x 15' 3/11" Crew : 80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, SteelSandwich said: Pijl Historical armament : 12 x 6-pdr = 72 | 36 BW 16 x 6-pdr = 96 | 48 BW Suggestion for in-game armament : 14 x 6-pdr = 84 | 42 BW Given that she was modified several times, i think an armament of 14 (so under max capacity) would not be unrealistic. Indeed. Very nice ship ! I don't know if we can also imagine a mixed armament (4-pdr + 6-pdr) to suggest other in-game armaments, say : 12 x 6-pdr + 2 x 4-pdr (40 pdr) 12 x 6-pdr + 4 x 4-pdr (44 pdr) 14 x 6-pdr + 2 x 4-pdr (46-pdr) Edited October 17, 2017 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surcouf Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, LeBoiteux said: Shared here mainly as it is a piece of History. Thanks to our Surcouf. Our in-game cutter is beautiful btw. Le Renard 1812 French Privateer Cutter armed and owned by Robert @Surcouf Historical armament : 10 x 8-pdr (carronades) + 4 x 4-pdr (42 pdr) Suggestion for in-game armament (gaps 1-2) : 14 x 6-pdr (42 pdr) 14 x 4-pdr (28 pdr) 10 x 6-pdr + 4 x 4-pdr (38 pdr) Modern plans of the present replica Dimensions : Longueur : 30 m Longueur de coque : 19 m Maître-bau : 6 m Tirant d'eau : 2,8 m Deplacement : 70 t Crew : 3-30 (historical crew : 48) Sources : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_cutter_Renard_(1812) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Surcouf Note that for legal and boat classification reasons, the replica is shorter than the original cutter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBoiteux Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Surcouf said: Note that for legal and boat classification reasons, the replica is shorter than the original cutter NIce pics !!! What is the name of the 'big blue boat' beside the cutter ? And the dimensions of the original cutter were.... ? Edited October 17, 2017 by LeBoiteux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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