dron441 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) Сегодня напали на испанца. В бой за нас зашли представители клана CROWS и попросили отпустить его. Но кто мы такие что бы идти на поводу у шпионов и врагов нашей нации ? Мы решили его захватить. В ответ в наш адрес полетели угрозы и ядра.А вот и скрины. Все началось со стрельбы по парусам , а закончилось откровенной наглостью , стрельбы в борт. В свою очередь мы не сделали ни одного залпа по ним. Edited July 9, 2017 by dron441 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moscalb Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) Мои логи урона в этом бою Огонь открывали все 3 игрока Edited July 9, 2017 by Moscalb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBD Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Пират на пирата, нет проблем. У пиратов свои правила, а у нацыоналов свои, или поменяли опять? Не приятно что свои топят, но по правилам это разрешено. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekillos Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, Comrade I Stalin said: Пират на пирата, нет проблем. У пиратов свои правила, а у нацыоналов свои, или поменяли опять? Не приятно что свои топят, но по правилам это разрешено. Где вы такие правила находите? Придумываете? Атака пиратами друг друга разрешена в противоположных командах, а не в своей. Если игрок выбрал какую-то сторону в бою, то атаковать членов своей команды он не может. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dron441 Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, Comrade I Stalin said: Пират на пирата, нет проблем. У пиратов свои правила, а у нацыоналов свои, или поменяли опять? Не приятно что свои топят, но по правилам это разрешено. Пират может топить пирата в оутлав баттле. Но тут они зашли в бой против испа и открыли огонь по своим . Это как минимум обнуление прогресса Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones el Tuerto Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Green to green? I told you please don't attack Ramon de mendoza cause he is joining pirates and my clan, giving us an agamenon for the port battle in ays, every clan respected us like rubli and you didn't you went to attack this guy anyway to steal our ship and then you say green to green? come on man come on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dron441 Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jones el Tuerto said: Green to green? I told you please don't attack Ramon de mendoza cause he is joining pirates and my clan, giving us an agamenon for the port battle in ays, every clan respected us like rubli and you didn't you went to attack this guy anyway to steal our ship and then you say green to green? come on man come on.... Yes. You told. but this does not give you the right to shoot at the green team.I hope you are banned for playing dirty Edited July 9, 2017 by dron441 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones el Tuerto Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, dron441 said: Yes. You told. but this does not give you the right to shoot at the green team.I hope you are banned for playing dirty I asked you please don't attack him and you didn't care about it now we are 1 ship down for the conquer of Ays because of you and your friend. I won't let my clan ship being captured by anyone i don't care about green to green you are attacking my clan ship that's everything. You ignored us and didn't care about what we asked you politely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anolytic Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 37 minutes ago, Jones el Tuerto said: I asked you please don't attack him and you didn't care about it now we are 1 ship down for the conquer of Ays because of you and your friend. I won't let my clan ship being captured by anyone i don't care about green to green you are attacking my clan ship that's everything. You ignored us and didn't care about what we asked you politely. I think you joined the wrong faction if you expect your compatriots to be polite, fair or respect your property: Quote Piracy is an act of robbery or criminal violence by ship- or boat-borne attackers upon another ship or a coastal area, typically with the goal of stealing cargo and other valuable items or properties. Those who engage in acts of piracy are called pirates. -Wikipedia 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones el Tuerto Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Anolytic said: I think you joined the wrong faction if you expect your compatriots to be polite, fair or respect your property: Lol then i have the right to defend my clan ship of being robbed by using green to green as an advantage... or i have to close sails and watch how my ship is being taken? ... anyway we won the pb but one of our guys was in a renomme thanks to this people and then we are reported.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anolytic Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, Jones el Tuerto said: Lol then i have the right to defend my clan ship of being robbed by using green to green as an advantage... or i have to close sails and watch how my ship is being taken? ... anyway we won the pb but one of our guys was in a renomme thanks to this people and then we are reported.. Unlike being unsporting or ungentlemanly (or simply - pirate), whatever you want to call dron441 for not letting your friend move over to Pirates in peace and keeping all his stuff, green-on-green is actually illegal by the game rules. dron441 is in the right here. He was simply engaging in piracy. Green on green as you did is strictly forbidden. And there are no mitigating factors. Probably, because this was done in the heat of a situation you will only receive a warning for this if you haven't received any before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones el Tuerto Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Anolytic said: Unlike being unsporting or ungentlemanly (or simply - pirate), whatever you want to call dron441 for not letting your friend move over to Pirates in peace and keeping all his stuff, green-on-green is actually illegal by the game rules. dron441 is in the right here. He was simply engaging in piracy. Green on green as you did is strictly forbidden. And there are no mitigating factors. Probably, because this was done in the heat of a situation you will only receive a warning for this if you haven't received any before. I haven't received any before because i never do green to green, but this case was different when you are losing an important ship that is important for a port battle that is important to get conquest marks and build bigger ships it's not easy to see how the guy steals your ships in the front of your eyes and you can't do nothing just watch how something you worked to have is being taken and even if you have the power to stop it you can't just because of a rule that should be changed if we are talking about real and historic piracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skully Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 If the Tribunal allows me, may I add... 7 hours ago, Anolytic said: Unlike being unsporting or ungentlemanly (or simply - pirate), whatever you want to call dron441 for not letting your friend move over to Pirates in peace and keeping all his stuff, green-on-green is actually illegal by the game rules. dron441 is in the right here. He was simply engaging in piracy. Green on green as you did is strictly forbidden. And there are no mitigating factors. Probably, because this was done in the heat of a situation you will only receive a warning for this if you haven't received any before. There is already a precedent for mitigating factors for green-on-green: http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/21414-green-to-green-damage/#comment-437546 12 hours ago, Anolytic said: I think you joined the wrong faction if you expect your compatriots to be polite, fair or respect your property: I also note your assertion that Pirates do not need to expect their your compatriots to be polite, fair or respect your property. This is acknowledged by the accuser, who himself is part of that same faction. So technically I might agree that the green-on-green rule has been violated, however the spirit of the game is not. Furthermore the defendant did give ample warning that shots would be fired if dron441 would continue the action. Excuses for speaking presumptuously, I think ultimately repayment of damages by the defendant is in order. If I may satisfy my curiosity, one question to the defendant, why did you not join Spanish side? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizbo Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 8 hours ago, Jones el Tuerto said: Lol then i have the right to defend my clan ship of being robbed by using green to green as an advantage... or i have to close sails and watch how my ship is being taken? ... anyway we won the pb but one of our guys was in a renomme thanks to this people and then we are reported.. Green on Green has no good reason why didnt you just cap your friend instead to fired on friendly and should get a ban 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones el Tuerto Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Skully said: If the Tribunal allows me, may I add... There is already a precedent for mitigating factors for green-on-green: http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/21414-green-to-green-damage/#comment-437546 I also note your assertion that Pirates do not need to expect their your compatriots to be polite, fair or respect your property. This is acknowledged by the accuser, who himself is part of that same faction. So technically I might agree that the green-on-green rule has been violated, however the spirit of the game is not. Furthermore the defendant did give ample warning that shots would be fired if dron441 would continue the action. Excuses for speaking presumptuously, I think ultimately repayment of damages by the defendant is in order. If I may satisfy my curiosity, one question to the defendant, why did you not join Spanish side? Thanks mate I couldn't because we had bad wind plus we were escorting him everything happen too fast when i realized we were inside the battle already. I have to apologize for my language in chat I was angry because of that action and lose control of my respect to the other players on that part i apologize. 3 hours ago, Gizbo said: Green on Green has no good reason why didnt you just cap your friend instead to fired on friendly and should get a ban Didn't think about that but i will keep that in mind if something similar happens again, i'm a bit new in the game so almost always it's error and learn error and learn. but thanks for the advice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoky Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 this is not green on green, this is black on black so its alowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Zoky said: this is not green on green, this is black on black so its alowed wrong, this is not an outlaw battle; only there when names are RED to each other it's okay to shoot - Since this was not an outlaw battle and teams existed, and players were displayed as GREEN names, it's green on green 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoky Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Liquicity said: wrong, this is not an outlaw battle; only there when names are RED to each other it's okay to shoot - Since this was not an outlaw battle and teams existed, and players were displayed as GREEN names, it's green on green Don't get me wrong but we should stop hiding behind stupid rules. Pirates should be allowed to attack anyone, anywhere and anytime! #NORulesFreePirates 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Zoky said: Don't get me wrong but we should stop hiding behind stupid rules. Pirates should be allowed to attack anyone, anywhere and anytime! #NORulesFreePirates if they weren't just like any other nation sure, but as long as they're just another nation except with the jolly roger, they'll have to behave as such and accept the rules IMO Edited July 11, 2017 by Liquicity 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ink Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Since this was not an outlaw battle, actions by CROWS clan members were against the rules. Considering that it is the first violation of rules (and also it did not lead to lose ships by clan RUBLI), players receive a warning as 1st offense case. Further violation of green on green rule will result in demoting, 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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