Crowgasm Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I was curious if the launch planning for this has considered Steam Greenlight as an option? I notice the website 'stable-mate', Ultimate General, has taken that route and seems to be garnering a lot of support. Any thoughts about the same path? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneironz Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Game Labs really should put Naval Action in steam Greenlight. Imagine how many players will try the game out if they see the news, showing a nice screenshot of the USS Constitution? I cannot imagine why wouldn't they... once NA is released that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowgasm Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Well, Green-light would be pre-release. That's the point. I can see reasons why the developer might not want to, but it could be a boon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chustler Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I'm sure they are considering all their options.. They have said pretty clearly that they want to get it to a certain level before hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Blackwell Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Such a large influx of traffic here on the website would be a bad thing for such a small team of Developers. Keeping things simple is a smart move by Game Labs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbydylan Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Given that Steam has current users in the Millions (at all times), putting the game on Steam seems a forgone conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Greenlight is probably the wrong direction. Steam early access would make more sense as the game is going to be evolving and developing over time with the input of open world etc. Greenlight tends to be finished or nearly finished games... In most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneironz Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Greenlight is probably the wrong direction. Steam early access would make more sense as the game is going to be evolving and developing over time with the input of open world etc. Greenlight tends to be finished or nearly finished games... In most cases. I have to disagree, there are several greenlit games such as DayZ (early alpha), War thunder, which still has a lot of content to be added. What else, Kerbal Program, Space Engineers....There are plenty of buggy and unfinished games in steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I have to disagree, there are several greenlit games such as DayZ (early alpha), War thunder, which still has a lot of content to be added. What else, Kerbal Program, Space Engineers.... There are plenty of buggy and unfinished games in steam. 3 of those games are massive, sailing games have and always will be niche. And of course space engineers is, it's minecraft in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Speyk Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The problem with greenlight is, that A LOT of people will be able to play the game. All those players will have bugs and such to report, and this large an influx could be too much for this relatively small development team to handle. This would mean disappointed players with negative reviews that could break the game before release (like the first version of DayZ where the creator was pretty much chastised by the internet). I would still play, but it would be a shame for the team. I think their current approach works best for them (at least at this stage in development). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneironz Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I was wrong. Naval Action should be on steam early access later on, but not greenlight. Greenlight is for Beta, almost finished games. I mixed these two things up, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbydylan Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Green-light is for any game wanting to get onto steam that doesn't have a publisher agreement in place. Essentially is what indies need to do to get onto steam. As I understand it, Game-Labs is a Developer, and unless they want to sign up with a publisher that has an existing Steam agreement, they'll have to go through greenlight to get onto steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbydylan Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I just saw that Ultimate General has just been Green-lit. Since it's a Game Labs game, Its pretty safe Naval Action will have to follow suite. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=226914718 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 In the current steam system you need to get voted to be on steam and open early access. So Greenlight is a pre-requisite We are considering various options And once Gettysburg is launched we might not need to Green light at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneironz Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 How so? You advertise Naval Action when ppl open Gettysburg? It's that not everyone visits this forum, as people buy the game on steam, then play it. I would like to see Naval Action integrated into Steam. It helps with billing for in game store, with updates and news. If you're after population, greenlight is best. for selected testers, something like the current system is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 How so? You advertise Naval Action when ppl open Gettysburg? It's that not everyone visits this forum, as people buy the game on steam, then play it. no - you might not need to go through greenlight again if you have one game shipped on steam. but we are not 100% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneironz Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Ahhh I see! Well, if NA needs to be greenlit, the team will have support. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbydylan Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 no - you might not need to go through greenlight again if you have one game shipped on steam. but we are not 100% sure. HMmm... Good point. I've not seen anyone put 2 games though Greenlight. I thought it was an avenue for indies to get on (no Publisher), but I wonder if once you have an agreement in place.... Though, from the sounds of it, Greenlight might be pulled in the not too distant future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chustler Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Ya I have a faint memory of reading the intended shutdown of greenlight in the future too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneironz Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 HMmm... Good point. I've not seen anyone put 2 games though Greenlight. I thought it was an avenue for indies to get on (no Publisher), but I wonder if once you have an agreement in place.... Though, from the sounds of it, Greenlight might be pulled in the not too distant future. Ya I have a faint memory of reading the intended shutdown of greenlight in the future too... Steam's Greenlight will be pulled off. Despite the system being a great tool for Indie game developers, the fact that the market is being saturated with indie games is bad. As a very interesting game might be not easily accessed due to all the other, less interesting, games out there. Steam is thinking about giving more control to the developers, the way their game is publicized. Like a store for each studio. This is what I've found on the web so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 thats bad i hoped to trow money at gamelabs soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneironz Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 You'll still be able to throw all the money you wish, if gamelabs don't put Naval Action, they can make a billing system for this website, like Star Citizen does. But I'm speculating here, as I don't know their plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunx Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 The problem with greenlight is, that A LOT of people will be able to play the game. All those players will have bugs and such to report, and this large an influx could be too much for this relatively small development team to handle. This would mean disappointed players with negative reviews that could break the game before release (like the first version of DayZ where the creator was pretty much chastised by the internet). I would still play, but it would be a shame for the team. I think their current approach works best for them (at least at this stage in development). Whole heartedly agree. I think the attention this would get from Steam would be awesome when they have some way of people throwing money at them but as for the amount of tech support they would need to provide for the multitude of testers... I think that would draw a lot more energy than the devs have whilst in the alpha phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 NA will be put on green light as soon as we are ready. There are several things we have to fix or test before we can promise something on steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 NA will be put on green light as soon as we are ready. There are several things we have to fix or test before we can promise something on steam. Greenlight is being shut down by Valve, so you may not want to bank on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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