Thonys Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) hi captains and defs yesterday i had a separate fight with 2 dlc ship when after a intense fight i saw that the ship when almost destroyed >> surrendered for me as a defender, investing time to fight those ships i ended up with nothing .(you can not sink, it just game over) i would recommend that dlc whips can not surrender anymore. or only if approved by the other party, and if agreed it should hand over his cargo and a huge amount of dubloons (because it is not possible to grab the ship) or only surrendering in the first minute of the fight. i consider this a cheat and a flaw in the dlc system. this needs to be addressed. the same goes for basic cutter who just drag you in battle to keep you out of a other ow fight and surrenders with a big smile (denial of victory) when you surrender it must cost you dubloons..it can not be so the system allows you to make advantage of the system and you can get away with it... you have to pay (personally Dubloons lets say 1000 dubs) for your actions. and ship. Edited June 30, 2019 by Thonys 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 DLC ships yield doubloons when sunk, same as any other ship. If they have modules, also a random one will be available to be looted. On top of that they also count towards PvP Hunt and rates Hunt missions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 ? You can still go next to it, inspect it and hit the "sink" button as with any other ship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thonys Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 also count s pvp hunt we only can hunt 1 rate 2 rate and 3 rate which our nation can not even sink atm the captain is not stupid he sails in a direction where we can not loot , also its game over ever bin in a situation where they surrendered may i ask what you got from it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thonys Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Liq said: ? You can still go next to it, inspect it and hit the "sink" button as with any other ship Game over......what is there to sink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Just now, Thonys said: we only can hunt 1 rate 2 rate and 3 rate ??? this is not correct. There's missions for all rates in many many many different ports. Fill up your Journal with hunt and pvp hunt missions as you sail along and visit ports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Just now, Thonys said: Game over......what is there to sink? you just park next to the ship that surrendered, press inspect [X], and hit the "sink" button you cant capture DLC ships but can still sink them after surrendered as any other ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thonys Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 Just now, Hethwill said: ??? this is not correct. There's missions for all rates in many many many different ports. Fill up your Journal with hunt and pvp hunt missions as you sail along and visit ports. ha thank you my journal is filled with economy (that's what you get in a simple slot system) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Thonys said: ha thank you my journal is filled with economy (that's what you get in a simple slot system) you dont need to keep the economy mission once you took the cargo you can deliver the cargo / passenger by right clicking it in the destination port and pressing "deliver". no need to do it by the journal can therefore delete the eco missions once taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thonys Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Liq said: you dont need to keep the economy mission once you took the cargo you can deliver the cargo / passenger by right clicking it in the destination port and pressing "deliver". no need to do it by the journal can therefore delete the eco missions once taken. True throw the administration overboard (also a flaw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Liq said: you dont need to keep the economy mission once you took the cargo you can deliver the cargo / passenger by right clicking it in the destination port and pressing "deliver". no need to do it by the journal can therefore delete the eco missions once taken. Ah ! Thanks for pointing this out. Definitely a major flaw 😮 ( I pay fines in Elite for failing or dropping missions, usually passengers as well - the mission and item disappears of course. And sometimes they are actually part of the lore and my ship gets hunted by opposing forces to murder the poor fellow ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liq Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hethwill said: Ah ! Thanks for pointing this out. Definitely a major flaw 😮 why a flaw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaos Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Hethwill said: Ah ! Thanks for pointing this out. Definitely a major flaw 😮 They know about this as it was pointed out during testing, but the issue is that if the missions cannot be delivered without having the quest then it would be pointless to capture ships that were doing these missions as you would not be able to deliver the missions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Just now, Archaos said: They know about this as it was pointed out during testing, but the issue is that if the missions cannot be delivered without having the quest then it would be pointless to capture ships that were doing these missions as you would not be able to deliver the missions. Yes, also that Maybe it gets changed, maybe not. In any case the DLC ships offer ample opportunity for both parties - easy casual ship and also can be looted and sunk for mission head count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thonys Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) a simple but genius solution for surrendering would be : when surrendering it cost you 1000 dubloons whatever ship you surrender if you don't have the dubloons you can not surrender eighter. "The admiralty must be payed for you loss" now the Admiralty gets a face indeed. Edited June 30, 2019 by Thonys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Thonys said: a simple but genius solution for surrendering would be : when surrendering it cost you 1000 dubloons whatever ship you surrender if you don't have the dubloons you can not surrender eighter. "The admiralty must be payed for you loss" now the Admiralty gets a face indeed. Careful what you wish for... ... it might hit you in the face, very very hard. In other words... look to what you suggest from both sides on average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Texas Sir Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 If you do any damage to the ship you get credit for it's kill. None capture ships are auto scuttle when battle is over and all leave. This is why we get a report after the last person leaves the battle. As long as you did some damage to the ship before they surrender than you still gain points. If your having a problem with them going up wind than bring your own ships that can do the same. At least one guy can go and claim them that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Hethwill said: Careful what you wish for... ... it might hit you in the face, very very hard. In other words... look to what you suggest from both sides on average. Yes. Please lets not do that.... Surrender, capture, sinking. They are working as intended. I don't see the problem here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thonys Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hethwill said: Careful what you wish for... ... it might hit you in the face, very very hard. In other words... look to what you suggest from both sides on average. well it will not hit me,,,at all. and i mentioned it already (if you read carefully you will see it : ) ((( its not only the dlc but also the little bugger who had problems before,, [perhaps for him 250 dubs ] ))) Edited June 30, 2019 by Thonys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Teutonic said: Yes. Please lets not do that.... Surrender, capture, sinking. They are working as intended. I don't see the problem here. Of course. Me neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrago Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Please clarify for me... I tag someone. They surrender immediately. I do still gain XP and the kill of I go sink that ship. Right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 32 minutes ago, Farrago said: Please clarify for me... I tag someone. They surrender immediately. I do still gain XP and the kill of I go sink that ship. Right? Correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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