Ned Loe Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Hey devs. Will it be possible in near future to buy more Econ slots? Let's say 25 slots max per account. Each slot $8 USD. at rate - ($40/5 slots). I am sure there are many people who want this option and have money in their hands waving at you. Type +1 if you agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 pay to win, It is almost that now with Alt accounts being run at the same time no thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heibges Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 The problem with that would be that Production Building are tied to Labor Hours. Even if you had 25 buildings, you would only be able to get resources out of 5 or so of them on a given day. They would have to add Production Hours, and it would be tied to each building rather than the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quineloe Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Yeah just let us buy more econ slots and more labor hours through cash shop. After all, it's what people with multiple accounts already do. I don't see how it is "pay to win", you're not winning by crafting ships. I am pretty disappointed that there is no gameplay in the economy due to the labor hour restriction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 I know people who got 3 or more accounts. $40x3=15 slots or $40x5=25 slots. Why not make life easier? and just add option to buy extra slots instead of game. $8x25 slots=$200 5x$40=$200 or 5 game copies Labor hour restriction is a bad move on dev side. They could make lots of money faster by implementing slot expansion option. Is it Pay to win? -> Craft more ships, help your nation and new players. Have fleets in all regions and be able to respond to any threats at any time with quality battle ready ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 i mean if they are sticking to their guns on the Alt account exploit being ok then fine get the micro transactions rolling but if they are not fine with the Alt exploitation going on then no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 i mean if they are sticking to their guns on the Alt account exploit being ok then fine get the micro transactions rolling but if they are not fine with the Alt exploitation going on then no Adding Econ slot Expansion will reduce extra Alt numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Adding Econ slot Expansion will reduce extra Alt numbers. But having an alt is forbidden or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Masterviolin Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I still think this would still give paying players a notable advantage. Paying players could potentially out-produce non-playing players, and hold stronger positions in the economy. They could technically self-produce all of their resources en masse. One of the best things about Naval Action is that we have a strong reputation as a respected, fair and mature community, with the game giving everyone a fairly equal chance (of course, there's the yacht but its fairly equal) to build up their strength and do well in the game. I think adding micro-transactions when the game already costs $40 would not only give payers an advantage, but damage our reputation as well. I don't think microtransactions are what we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quineloe Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 There will be premium ships you can redeem over and over. This would be the same thing, except the gameplay to obtain the ship would still be required. It's by any means lighter on the p2w scale than flat out redeeming premium ships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I don't like the idea myself but regardless of that the econ is still too much in flux for this to be an option currently. You wouldn't want to pay for something that may not be there in the future or in a drastically different form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 There will be premium ships you can redeem over and over. This would be the same thing, except the gameplay to obtain the ship would still be required. It's by any means lighter on the p2w scale than flat out redeeming premium ships There are no Premium Ships and there won't be Premium ships. Only ship skins as we like to call it. Balance will remain on all ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 I don't like the idea myself but regardless of that the econ is still too much in flux for this to be an option currently. You wouldn't want to pay for something that may not be there in the future or in a drastically different form. Well, remove Econ and this game will go down hill. Half of my clan are ship builders and they will be very unhappy if you mess with their hobby. Econ is a part of a game that needs to be invested in, not removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reorx Redbeard Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I for one is done playing NA if they open up for bying ingame items with real money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 I for one is done playing NA if they open up for bying ingame items with real money. Why would you quit a game if someone will purchase Figureheads for their ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrakkenSmacken Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Is it Pay to win? -> Craft more ships, help your nation and new players. Have fleets in all regions and be able to respond to any threats at any time with quality battle ready ships. The question you have to ask about pay to win, "is it power?" If you are selling power, it is probably is pay to win. If your not, it isn't. At least that's my definition. Some argue that because you can get everything you can buy, just slower. it's not pay to win. Then it becomes a question of how much power can you buy? Can you buy an extra 10%, 20%, 80%, absolutely have to do it to be competitive? When does advantage become "win"? Edited March 21, 2016 by KrakkenSmacken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reorx Redbeard Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 because it would not stop with just that. when a game opens up buying ingame items with real money the at some point it would to the possiblity to by speciel ships which would give an unfair advantage for those players with the abity to use a lot of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 because it would not stop with just that. when a game opens up buying ingame items with real money the at some point it would to the possiblity to by speciel ships which would give an unfair advantage for those players with the abity to use a lot of money You mean Ship Skins? They will have same specs as their Crafted brothers and Sisters. Developers said it many times, there will be no Premium ultra Powerful ships. You will be able to get Same spec ship, but different look and that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 The question you have to ask about pay to win, "is it power?" If you are selling power, it is probably is pay to win. If your not, it isn't. At least that's my definition. Some argue that because you can get everything you can buy, just slower. it's not pay to win. Then it becomes a question of how much power can you buy? Can you buy an extra 10%, 20%, 80%, absolutely have to do it to be competitive? When does advantage become "win"? There is really none. It's just a short cut for a regular ship builder who want's to start production for his Nation faster and on much larger scale. This can be beneficial for small nations as well. Crafters will be able to produce much more high quality ships in shorter time and make sure players are well supplied with them. So, their Nation can defend their ports more efficiently. Also, reduces fear factor - oh S*** I am afraid to loose my ship I will just Fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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