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WTF @Thonys, have you turned in to a PvP player. I thought you was a Dutch merchant. I just think I for now stay to danish wathers. If it even no longer is safe in Dutch waters. What have the World come to. Think it is time for me to move to PvE server.

You might be right. Don’t know. My game time is very limitid. When I am in the game, I mostly play on a second account on a Herc, so He can level a bit. Don’t Spend time on RvR.

Holy shit. There is lots of Dutch still in game. Think Dk-Ng is the smallest nation left in the game.

Problem is that admin if I read him right have stated it is ok not to fight. Even if it was not allowed, ppl can just play bad ore as in this case chose witch target to kill. How will you ever prove it. You are as it is now, actually not forced to take part in a gank. You have any right to sail away and say I will not take part in this fight.

In a case like this it would actually make ganking easier with a limited br. I see most of the guys is friends on the other side, so we dont fight them, But because of limited BR, he cant get extra player in. So He gets ganked.

Well “I take it” is a statement, But you hide it behind a ? Right now, last pb was Green cay. Not sure how many Wm I have. But still have 8 procturates, so I guess I still get VM each weeks. Admin want ppl in Ow to grind dbl, then the solution in not to have a change where you just sit in habor and get it without having to do anything.

Yep use them to buy ships. How does that translate to build Sol ore as your remark build 1 rate and go lose it like a noob? You know sell them, get some real buy Dbl. Maybe sell straight to a guy who need it for some dbl. Btw as I am in your eyes a non PvP player, what quallify a player to be regarded as a PvP player. Because thats seams like an important thing for you if ppl apperantly should be taken seriously in the forum.

Well, first if all, where do I say to take out a Sol. Just for the record when I write ships it covers all classes of ships, not just Sol. But I can understand from you the only ships covered is a 1 rate when ppl talk ships. Fine you want to be condescending and say I aparently do little PvP. In generally the danes haven’t put of screenshots of oure fights. Thats just not oure style to pound oure chest. Try go small duel battles. You actually will find some video from me. I put then up, so ppl could see even avarage players can have fun in PvP. Before patch 27 I did Daily PvP, either in patrolezone(where I mostly went when I was alone), small group hunting. And just for the record Since august last year part of The Dnp portbattle team, so my guess is I have about 40 - 50 pb under the belt. I made enough PvP marks to each week give around 150 marks to those that needed. But I do not know if thats qualify me as a PvP player in your eyes. Do plz tell me. Not everybody has as many VM as you. So sell them, get some Reals, then buy Dbl, craft ships, go fight. But you are right. There is way to many ships from before patch. Thats why we dont see the result yeth of ships cost VM. Lets not Call for changes before we actually know the impact. You are right. I dont craft 4-1 rate ships. Neither do I use those I had befor patch 27. I wanted to see how it would affect me in the long run and not when I have the benefit if what I allready have. Admin and players wanted ships to be rare, so the answer must be to send less VM in to the game, if ppl have to many. edit: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1DeJzf6Wae_Uqc56shyOwA?view_as=subscriber

You should use your VM to build ships and go fight. Not stack them.

I also get your point. It just anoyes me when ppl claim ppl only sail Lrq. It is basicly wrong. But sometimes ppl also have some fault in it. How many times dont we see traders with out cannons. A fleet of traderships with out an escort. Yes I know it dosent count for the new guys. But even in a small ship, if you learn to sail with the wind, learn to do a defensive tag, you would stay a better chance against the Lrq, even with a leg with elite pirates.

Well Le Reg isent the only ship you can sail on. Yes some choose to do so. I have only used mine in PB, witch I can’t anymore. A couple of times in Nassau when I just have needed the last damage. How many of the top PvP players have you seen on a Le Reguin? I would claim and pretty sure I am right. 9,5 of 10 times some body goes hunt in Dk-Ng waters it is on another ship than a LRG.

It will reward those that make RvR. The general idea of RvR guys is RvR are dead because of 2 reasons. - Port dosent matter. - To much AI grind to flip. Your idea will make ports matter. So plenty of RvR. If thats not enough, well lets bump Down hostillity to. Should give plenty of RvR. Thats the Pro. Is there a Con to the idea. Might make the game more unbalanced. But not sure it is bad. It is a hardcore game and better to reward those that make content, then those that dosent.

I have faith in admin. He will see the light and make the change in a days work.

Nope, not a redevelopment. Just put book under books and upgrades under moduls(Those under PvP tab.). They should still be bought for Dubloons. But I ask another tab where you can buy basic upgrades for reals. Soe basicly just move dubloons purchaes upgrades/books in PvP tab to the 2 other tabs. Rename PvP tab to "Real Upgrades"(Feel free to find a better name) and lest us buy basic upgrades there for Reals.

I would like a couple of changes in the admiralty. We have modules, books and PvP. This make little sence to me after we have removed PvP marks, unless Admin plan to put in special PvP reward later. Now you have modulers, where only upgrades are and books, where only books are. But of we look on PvP it is both upgrades and books. All cost today Dubloons. My sugestion in to remove PvP and put upgrades in module and book in books. Pro: Easier to find what you look for. New players will never be in doubt what they buy. Con: Can't realy see anyone. The other change I would like is put in a tab, where you can buy basic upgrades for reals. Pro: Those that hasen't enough Dubloons still have an easier acces to some upgrades. It remove some of the grind on AI's to still be able to some extend improve your ship, with out of give it the same benefit, as those that use crafted,- ore doubloon bought upgrades. Con: It might have an impact on how much you can take from crafted upgrades. It might also limited some players sailing in Ow. The first part just make more sence to me after patch 27. The second part is partly a bit selfish since I don't grind AI's and neither grind for Dubloons. That said I still think part will be a good thing for casual players and new players.

My remark has nothing to do with you fighting in your own time zone. It was a remark about Crissy couldn’t use his normal treat about Night flip because us are in the same time zone. Continue to win? What does that tell you? Well me it tells you only go find easy tragets. Witch The Us is. Try Kinky. Look at the top “Top EU time zone” they lose rather often actually. The time where Sweden seal clubbed the entire server is long done. But fair enough that Crissy need to Pick fights he is sure to win. Dont think his track record since the merge is impressive.

I just poked a bit to Crissy, to get a bit if live in the tread. I have a long boring day ahead. So I can come here and get a couple of min of fun. Ps If he wants a pb, he need no reason than he wants a pb.

Well what choise did Crissy boy have? He couldn’t treat you with night flips, he don’t fight the only guy with skill and players in the same timezone.

The concers about financing maybe less abouth you ore more to others demand on removal of Dlc ships. When ppl demand something they react to a to something is wrong, they just often forget to look at the effect to. Ore atleast they only look at the effect thst suit them. I don’t Belive in fixing a wrong with another imo wrong, Witch your surgestion is for me atleast. I I don’t Belive there should be a bonus in battle just because it is a crafted ship. I said it many times that a Dlc also should be crafteble. So Thise that wont buy on also can have it. Neither do I belive it should be a bad ship. They should have there pris and cons, like all ships. It should be well balanced like all ships, You say they are better than a surprice and a cerb, But so is many ships right now, that are crafted.

So because admin have said it, no more debate. Periode. Well no need to have any debate then I guess. But it is better in terms of upgrades, there is a higher chance, so in the long run over numbers of ships, it is actually better on upgrades. It is fine you think it should be so on every ship. I just allowe my self to have the opinion that there should not be an significant difference. Just a small one, so they have lived up to there promise. I put the other points up because if you read lots of the post in here ppl focus on crafting and econ to. There is also advantages by crafted ships witch ppl just ignore. Every ship have different stats, witch also can make it hard to decide if one ship is better than the other. It is fine you want to have crafted ships to have an advantage in battle. I just think a battle should be a battle no matter witch ship you bring. If the Dlc is op, they shoul in my opinion have stats so they fit the general class. Yes they can have some advantage in som areas and then some handicap in others. Just like crafted ships have. I just dont understand the demand for then to be sub to a crafted ship. It gives a better fight?

Quit simple. As Dlc ships not should be better than crafted ships neither should it be in general the other way around. Basicly it is to pas judgment on one playstyle and say this is the right one and therefor those that prefere the other one is wrong. Crafted is allready better: - higher chance on extra slots. - No limited on how many to craft a day - No limit on the price if you want to sell it. - Can craft it and help a friend by handing it over. Crafted allready have a lot going for them.

My next question is the one always seems to forgeten. Maybe I just are more of a realist than a dreamer. Why should ppl buy a Dlc ship if it is worse then other ships and I dont say it has to be better. Personally I think every Dlc ship also should be crafteble. And if ppl don’t buy the the Dlc, how are we to fund the game? I seriously doubt many online game only takes the cost price for the game and not more. Some can because they know ppl will by the next game in the series. I for sure can see things way worse than it is now. Think is they only had let one ship in each cladd be avaible and the rest you had to buy as a Dlc just to craft it. Personally I have a hard time see the Dlc is screwing everything of. They should not be better, But I don’t Understand why it should be punished either.

@pit think admin have stated a crafted had about 3,5 bigger chance to get a an extra bonus. Wether it is much ore not, I can’t say because it depend on the actually chance. Is i 1-10 ore 1-1000.000. You idea have some merit, if we use the Dlc ship as the reason, should the extra crafting bonus then not be restricted to the same classes.?

I know. But right now I dont spend anything on upgrades. Neither a Dlc ore a normaly ship when I go out alone. So bu his definition, I shouldn’t be allowed to do PvP. If I have looted an upgrade I use it. Thats all I do. Did earlier, but that didn’t cause any fear on that account. Yes I don’t Trow a ship away just to loose it. But that has nothing to do with Dlc ships. To get ship knowledge on my indiaman I took it to the swedish every day to pick a fight. Way more fun than grind AI. The only thing we get with fear is that ppl stay in habor and reinforcment zone. Luckely nobody ever have complained about that.

Fear of loss. Well then I only should sail ships from 4 rate and up. And only because I don’t want to grind doublons. But even them I dont fear losing, Trust me it is a long time since I feared loose a ship. So guess I should stop playing PvP. But I agree with you, any Dlc ship should be crafteble, if thats your statement.